Such a load of utter bullshit, but whatever.
GAF, we need to start a campaign for no used games/no DRM on the Xbox One
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Such a load of utter bullshit, but whatever.
Consumers can break a console faster then any publisher in the industry.
That´s a completely baseless assumption. You are also ignoring factors like renting games and lending them to friends etc.
Glorified G
Member
It would be as effective as starting a #FreeOnlinePlay campaign.
No you didn´t.
cyberheater
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I've tweeted. I'm not expecting great things.
Winterfang
Banned
That spin will make Sonic proud. That being said, I agree with the second sentence, MS fans should do that also, doesn't seem like most care.
Wasn't everyone's problem was that they themselves as gamers would have to pay to borrow games and that the fee would mean that used games wouldn't exist anymore?
This eradicates that problem, you could still rent/buy/borrow games with no fee. More importantly for me... I can still rent games.
They are to busy with damage control and whitewashing.
Str0ngStyle
Member
But the thing people don't get/know about is how much money the purchase of used games from the original owner (Gamestop, for example, buying Bioshock Infinite for $35 to resell later) goes to purchasing a new title, points cards, new controllers?
Winterfang
Banned
I mean to say MS fans, I edited it.
Edit:
Yeah but like everything around the Xbox One is shroud in a mist of disinformation and rumours. We don't know if that or the opposite is true for sure.
Nealand Liquor
Member
Oh come on man, you really can't say you don't see a large portion of gaming gaf posting in any drm thread is favoring Sony. I have no victim complex and I rest exactly in the middle in these idiotic console warz, however it's obvious which of the two console makers a large majority of console gaf supports. I don't see how this can even be debated frankly.
Because GAF has a soft spot for Sony. That and they enjoy shitting on anything to do with MS.
I really hope one of you were one of the seven who's at least tried to tweet about this so far.
https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=#xboxonenodrm&src=typd
They actually did something, instead of complaining and acting like victims of bias.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
1) Bitching about people not doing this for Xbox is pretty much fanboyism because you feel that your console of choice is getting all the hate.
2) People DID tweet Microsoft about this (myself included) after they revealed their plans for their DRM and Used Games.
3) When people complained and criticized Microsoft about these policies, some of you bitched and moaned. Now that people are trying to be proactive with Sony to prevent them from doing the same thing, you're bitching and moaning that no one is yelling at Microsoft.
Decide what you want to bitch and moan about.
My tweets, before the Sony campaign and while most of you who are now bitching were still saying that people were overreacting:
No responses from any of them and Harrison had like 1,500 followers at the time.
Fantastic contribution, truly.
2) People DID tweet Microsoft about this (myself included) after they revealed their plans for their DRM and Used Games.
3) When people complained and criticized Microsoft about these policies, some of you bitched and moaned. Now that people are trying to be proactive with Sony to prevent them from doing the same thing, you're bitching and moaning that no one is yelling at Microsoft.
Decide what you want to bitch and moan about.
My tweets, before the Sony campaign and while most of you who are now bitching were still saying that people were overreacting:
No responses from any of them and Harrison had like 1,500 followers at the time.
Fantastic contribution, truly.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Because with the PS4 there's a chance to stop it.
XBOX One already has a contract with EA, lol.
Casanova
Member
It's already been explained why this does not need to happen as well. We do not need to split the effort into two, less-influential, groups.
Microsoft is, without a doubt, listening to these responses and if they would like to win over the core audience they will follow suit.
There is no point in weakening our efforts, we just need to focus on this Sony task for now.
We don't all hate Microsoft and want them to fail, it's just not the best choice right now considering Microsoft will see these responses regardless.
Microsoft is, without a doubt, listening to these responses and if they would like to win over the core audience they will follow suit.
There is no point in weakening our efforts, we just need to focus on this Sony task for now.
We don't all hate Microsoft and want them to fail, it's just not the best choice right now considering Microsoft will see these responses regardless.
jacksepticeye
Member
Apparently it's because MS mind is made up and Sony are "on hold" which I don't buy for a second. I bet Sony had it fully planned and saw the backlash MS got now they don't know what to do, they can't afford any bad launch this time like with the PS3 so they're trying to cover their asses.
At least MS had the balls to just say it outright and not beat around the bush
Woffls
Member
The difference here is that Microsoft has already stated their position and clearly don't give a fuck about consumers. Sony are, apparently, listening and still have time to change whatever plans might have been made.
If both platform holders abandoned this kind of DRM I'd probably go for Xbox One over PS4 because [reasons], but as it stands I feel like Sony might actually try to do something about it.
If both platform holders abandoned this kind of DRM I'd probably go for Xbox One over PS4 because [reasons], but as it stands I feel like Sony might actually try to do something about it.
Yeah, congratulations to MS for fucking over consumers. They deserve a medal for their bravery.
Orochinagis
Member
Dont buy the console, best move ever. and I actually believe you will buy it anyway.
Why is it everyone raging on about an anti-xbox/pro-sony attitude is a junior? I've seen quite a few these past few days.
To be honest I'd say it's more to do with the fact that Sony has been coy about the whole thing, almost as if they were waiting to see how hard it hit Microsoft. Then we had an inside story saying it was planned but due to the heat MS got they backed down. Which means that yeah Sony is getting cold feet about it and now people are just letting them know loud and clear that it's what we want.
Microsoft has announced it already. It's going to be an uphill struggle to get them to change it IMO as most companies don't like backing down and looking powerless, but I believe that anyone passionate about Xbox should go for it. It can't hurt to try and it's not much effort to send a few tweets.
jacksepticeye
Member
Not what i'm saying.
Str0ngStyle
Member
Then don't sell me a physical good, and don't use the word buy in your marketing. It is not irrational to consumers that when you say "Buy the New Call of Duty now for your game console." What that means to consumers is that this is mine to do with what I please and If I sell it, so be it
If companies want to do what AppStore, Google Play, Facebook does, stop selling physical goods other than the hardware. This halfstepping that companies are trying to do with EULAs and shit is not working. And if you are gonna sell $60+ software with no right of resale, your shit better be AMAZING
PJV3
Member
Sadly a lot of Xbox fans have had a defeatist attitude about the situation, and have spent more time hoping sony would do the same. And to be fair MS seem more committed to it, the console struggling for a while is more likely to effect a change.
Fuck both companies if they go ahead.
Fuck both companies if they go ahead.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Can we please stop with the fanboy bickering and do what we can to prevent a terrible precedent for customer rights?
Winterfang
Banned
They had the balls to say it, I give you that. But damn if they didn't did it badly, is almost a week after and we still don't know for sure about everything.
I'll tweet this. Why wouldn't I?
How is your first sentiment and your second linked at all? So bizarre.
How is your first sentiment and your second linked at all? So bizarre.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm afraid its too late for MS to completely backtrack. Besides we don't need a campaign for MS because they have already experienced severe backlash greater than anything Sony has. If that backlash has not changed anything I doubt a twitter campaign will.
I do hope they change it though.
I do hope they change it though.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
It's too late for both consoles. You can do all the campaigns you want but publishers have more power over this than all of us together.
Edit: But the fact that MS states that "nothing is decided yet" makes me think that there's still a slim chance that they can take a different route.
Edit: But the fact that MS states that "nothing is decided yet" makes me think that there's still a slim chance that they can take a different route.
Phat Michael
Banned
I'll buy 2 consoles to make up for your missed sale TS.
I have tweeted to them FYI, hell i tweeted to Major Nelson about it back when this was still just a rumor. And stop throwing out that "victim, persecution, whatever kind of complex" every time someone points out that most on Gaf like Sony and have a dislike of MS. People are not blind and we are hardly the only ones to point it out about this site, so pleas stop with the "who, us?" routine.
Obviously a lot of "Xbox fans" don't have a "defeatist attitude" or else you wouldn't be seeing the massive backlash against it we have now.
Then what are you saying? You're congratulating Microsoft for being direct, which is a good thing. Sony has been quiet, but you're assuming it's because they're announcing the same strategy as Microsoft and want Microsoft to take the brunt of the outrage, which sources on this very forum have said may not be true anymore.
It's a bad situation, finding silver lining in this isn't helping. Tweeting, outrage, letting them know, that's helping. How much? Who knows, but saying "at least they had the balls to come out and royally screw us" isn't the best way to go about it.
Obviously a lot of "X
What has Sony said?
What have you got to lose/have others got to lose in supporting this initiative?
RustyNails
Member
Xbox One fans, I'm going PS4 only next gen but please get this ball rolling. No such thing as johnny come lately or GAF is sony teh bias. No DRM across the console spectrum is good for everyone.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Well I did my bit:
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@aarongreenberg @mrphilharrison @yusuf_i_mehdi @xboxp3 No used games DRM on Xbox One please! #Xboxonenodrm
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@aarongreenberg @mrphilharrison @yusuf_i_mehdi @xboxp3 No used games DRM on Xbox One please! #Xboxonenodrm
I dont think it is too late. Current rumors suggest that Sony is still debating it...in fact the latest rumor is that Sony pulled it from the table after seeing the MS backlash.
MS might be truthful when they say it isnt set in stone and thats exactly why an Xbox anti DRM social media campaign needs to start as well.
Hate seeing this arguing about negoaf bias. We are in this thing together. Playstation vs Xbox doesnt matter when its gamers consumer rights that are on the line.
jacksepticeye
Member
It was bad indeed, and the person who said it has a nack for screwing up what he says.
MS biggest enemy so far for the Xbone has been ambiguity
HigherLevel
Member
Why are people saying it is too late? All they have to do is release an update that disables the DRM, they could do this at anytime. This is an easy fix. Just let them know your feelings.
AzraelKans
Banned
Hmm.. guys
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/24/43...uire-regular-authentication-checks-used-games
XBOX ONE WONT HAVE A USED GAMES FEE
Read the date thats 3 days ago.
You WILL have to authenticate the games, you WONT pay a fee.
p.s. Im suspecting that GAMESTOP has something to do with this. Since their stock went down after the Xbox one announcement. They must have offered a truck load of money so MS would kill the feature.
Whatever the case, the fee is gone, the witch is dead, yay!
Sorry if that felt anticlimatic but ...
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/24/43...uire-regular-authentication-checks-used-games
XBOX ONE WONT HAVE A USED GAMES FEE
Read the date thats 3 days ago.
You WILL have to authenticate the games, you WONT pay a fee.
p.s. Im suspecting that GAMESTOP has something to do with this. Since their stock went down after the Xbox one announcement. They must have offered a truck load of money so MS would kill the feature.
Whatever the case, the fee is gone, the witch is dead, yay!
Sorry if that felt anticlimatic but ...
They think its too late because of the MS/EA deal. Theres no set proof (as far as Im aware) that their EA deal spawned from their DRM policies, though...so it doesnt hurt to try.