Grinchy
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I think it's an interesting idea. Jon and many others fight to save the entire world, and in the end, it just results in shitty people still being in power and running what is left very selfishly. That's a cool ending.
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I think it's an interesting idea. Jon and many others fight to save the entire world, and in the end, it just results in shitty people still being in power and running what is left very selfishly. That's a cool ending.
tattooed_dwarf
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I'm just bit disappointed if direwolves never play bigger role in thus story. I felt when they found wolves, they would play major role.
Triggerhappytel
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Qyburn is the guy who made Zombie Mountain, right? I had no idea either. Just assumed he took over from Pycell as Archmaester.
After so much build up ever since the very beginning, the White Walkers need to be a big deal, even if they're defeated two episodes before it ends and the rest is just tying up loose ends between the Game Players.
Yeah, wrapping up everything in another 11 episodes already seems crazy. Particularly if we're due to get a lot of screen time with Euron as the immediate big villain this time around (which I still don't like; not enough time to be introducing new major characters at this point). But it would be interesting if Cersei is still on the Iron Throne when the White Walkers are dealt with, and then in the final scene just as she's all smug and victorious Arya rolls up and kills her.
I would hate it if this all turns out to be a story recalled by Sam. The only times I have enjoyed that as a plot mechanic have been in The Princess Bride and Call of Juarez: Gunslinger (where it's used to great gameplay effect).
lastplayed
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Yeah, talk about climbing the career ladder. How did he come to fix Jaime's hand anyway, was he in that Bolton camp? Can't even remember.
I assumed we'd learn more and maybe see the Lord of Light at some point, given he's the opposing force to the Night King. It is called A Song of Fire and Ice after all, what if it was him that sent the Mad King crazy and he does the same to Dany? But it seems too late in the day for them to do anything with that now.
Edit: No way Sansa and Jon are outsmarting Littlefinger. I think both will be dead before the end. Arya will be the last remaining Stark.... unless Bran lives on to become Max Von Siddow...
Edit: No way Sansa and Jon are outsmarting Littlefinger. I think both will be dead before the end. Arya will be the last remaining Stark.... unless Bran lives on to become Max Von Siddow...
CecilRousso
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Little Finger really doesn't want Sansa dead, so nope. And it would be really weird for Little Finger to gain anything on them, with Sansa, Jon, Brienne and Ser Davos all being so mistrusting against him. That would just be cheap of the writers to let him win anymore.
It's not going to happen though.
You don't build "Winter is Coming" for 6 seasons and have it solved in 2 episodes
Thing is, next ep is probably all about Euron/ Circei interaction, Jon meeting Dany, and Bran/ Arya arriving to Winterfell.
There will also be a big chunk with the assault on Casterly Rock by the Unsullied.
That leaves 4 eps to wrap the season, with the WWs still not at the wall, and for now without a way to cross it afawk.
The rest of the season is likely to be about the consolidation of power in Westeros, building a coalition army to fight the WWs, with the last episode somehow being about crossing the wall (hopefully Tormund still alive), leaving most of season 8 for the actual fight (I imagine 4-5 eps) and at least 1 ep of epilogue.
There is also an open book spoiler one.
Edit: I consider this one more the "official" tv show ep discussion one, while the other has tons of people discussing differences between the show and the books.
I can't imagine the White Walkers and arrival of the Long Night not being the endgame. It was established in the very first episode and has been looming in the distance ever since.
Mediking
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Mediking
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Best you make a subscription, then you can't mix them up
Good advice. Don't wanna get banned or tick off Cornballer so thats why I asked to make sure. Lol
LastGamer84
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Honestly the entire show IMO has been about how all the politics and squabbling in the south has essentially been a waste of time when you have a threat that will literally wipe everyone out regardless of allegiance.
The Great Game is a side show compared to what's coming.
LegendofDragoonLives
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The other topic is filled with frauds, this is the only relevant one.
I think it will go down like this :
Season 7
Ep 3 - Bran and Arya arrive at winterfell , Jon meets Danerys , Euron gives the gift to Cersei
Ep 4 - Cersei tortures martell woman (cant remember her name), Big unsulied battle , sam heals johan
Ep 5 - Siege on Kings Landing begins , everyone marches towards kings landing
Ep 6 - the big battle begins for the iron throne begins, one dragon dies
Ep 7 - Ending of the battle for the iron throne and White Walkers arrive at the wall and destroy it passing through it
Season 8
Ep 1 - White Walkers march south and aftermath of the battle for the iron throne
Ep 2 - Everyone gathers to fight them + Start of the Fight (end of episode)
Ep 3 - Start of the fight , one of the dragons turns to White Walkers side
Ep 4 - White Walkers are defeated
Ep 5 - Aftermath of the battle and ending
Season 7
Ep 3 - Bran and Arya arrive at winterfell , Jon meets Danerys , Euron gives the gift to Cersei
Ep 4 - Cersei tortures martell woman (cant remember her name), Big unsulied battle , sam heals johan
Ep 5 - Siege on Kings Landing begins , everyone marches towards kings landing
Ep 6 - the big battle begins for the iron throne begins, one dragon dies
Ep 7 - Ending of the battle for the iron throne and White Walkers arrive at the wall and destroy it passing through it
Season 8
Ep 1 - White Walkers march south and aftermath of the battle for the iron throne
Ep 2 - Everyone gathers to fight them + Start of the Fight (end of episode)
Ep 3 - Start of the fight , one of the dragons turns to White Walkers side
Ep 4 - White Walkers are defeated
Ep 5 - Aftermath of the battle and ending
poppabk
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Ultimately they have played the role a real wolf might have. The feeling at the start was that they were somehow destined to be with the Stark's and thus would play a bigger role, but that was pretty much laid to rest when lady was killed. They have also had a metaphorical role to play, but that has always being pretty loose.
Samurai G0SU
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lets make a bet! Who will be the king/queen of the 7 kingdoms?
>=D
I bet
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I bet
SANSA
soundscream
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There is an episode six in season 8......is it just a live stream of George typing out chapter 4 of Winds of Winter?
Littlefinger is Varys' counterpart, in season four he was built up as one of the most dangerous players, and he's been consistently pulling strings behind the scenes - they've also put him on the backfoot with Sansa and Jon the last few episodes im order to make the audience underestimate him... the characters may distrust him, but to have him outsmarted by Sansa and his arc just fizzle out would be bad writing imo. Always bet on Littlefinger.
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Triggerhappytel
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edit: seems it was a marketing stunt?
I mean, having him be outsmarted by Sansa wouldn't exactly be fizzling out. I'm sure it would be kind of a big deal
oh oops
Ocarina_117
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Why I expect it to happen.
Yes, he was with the Boltons at Harrenhal. As Robb's forces are approaching, The Mountain slaughters all the prisoners and abandons Harrenhal. Robb finds Qyburn there, barely alive. Robb later leaves for his grandfather's funeral leaving the Boltons in charge there when Jamie is brought in.
The Artisan
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Jon is older than Dany?
Not much older, they were both born right at the end of Robert's rebellion.
Actually, Jon is almost a year older than Dany, his conception caused Robert's Rebellion, and Dany was born after it was over.
Sunster
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you'd lose that bet. she has 0 claim to that throne and no way to take it by force.
SamuelSupreme
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You know I just realized how the show has slowly mixed in Jon and Dany's worlds prior to their meeting.
We had Ser Jorah meet with Sam.
We had Melisandre meet with Dany.
And now its Dany and Jon meeting.
Star crossed lovers yall! I stay shipping.
We had Ser Jorah meet with Sam.
We had Melisandre meet with Dany.
And now its Dany and Jon meeting.
Star crossed lovers yall! I stay shipping.
ComputerBlue
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Seems to happen with everyone though.
There is almost always some sort of connection between several characters.
Rad Shadow
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I thought for sure Jorah was going to lead the charge against the whitewalkers.
LIke greyscale is the best defense against the undead...
Now, I'm much less sure!
LIke greyscale is the best defense against the undead...
Now, I'm much less sure!
ReplacementPelican
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But if they get together doesn't the show then condemn them? Its just the incest again, something the show always paints unfavorably because it makes people batshit insane.
They'll misdirect and make it look like Sansa is being manipulated by Littlefinger while Jon is gone, before revealing that she was playing him the whole time. She said it herself that you can't trust him, and they need his men but not necessarily him. She will undo him while securing the loyalty of his army, maybe with Arya's help.
i find so funny that "robert's rebellion" has that name, like ROBERT'S REBELLION, like he was the only one on that thing. compared to the "War of the Five Kings" it is not as catchy
This is what I think will happen also. I think LF underestimates Sansa and that'll be what does him in. But yeah I'm also really curious to see how Bran and Arya affect whatever will be going down there
demosthenes
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My only hope.
SamuelSupreme
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Incest is a Targaryen thing and the real controversy with the lannister incest was mostly because Joff, Cersei and Jaime are all assholes so naturally. The realm held on to anything that would weaken their claim to the iron throne.
Just realized the Baratheon line is officially extinct.
I think that in the end she'll turn on Littlefinger and stay loyal to Jon, but the seeds of what he has planted in her head will stay there and may come up again.
well yeah officially but the new king can legitimize Gendry right?
soundscream
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So was Jon?
Yeah I thought at the point that Ned went to the tower and got baby Jon, the rebellion was more or less done. Rhaegar was already dead, Jaime had killed the Mad King, etc. I also thought Dany and Viserys were already born at that point and were rushed out of Westeros and put into hiding for their safety during the rebellion. Obviously Dany would have to have been born before the rebellion is done because she is the Mad King's daughter. She can't have been born after he's dead.
EDIT: Yeah I just watched the Tower scene again and Ned says both Rhaegar and the Mad King are already dead. That makes Dany a bit older than Jon.
soundscream
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Nope, Ned sacked kings landing then went to the Tower of Joy.
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