neoism
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the writing and directing was really different this episode.. also the pacing.
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the writing and directing was really different this episode.. also the pacing.
a Master Ninja
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What's the implication here? There was a scene in this episode that book readers would recognize as foreshadowing, and then Yahoo made it a headline?
haha, I almost clicked on that because I wanted to know what to avoid. Thanks for the heads up.
neoism
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yeah the kid is 16 not 10 smfh
Shuggah_Daddy
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I still can't get over how fucking bad ass those last 3 minutes or so were in that last ep. I bet somehow melisandre is truly loyal to the walker king.
I thought she was teasing him to make him want her more. She was playing mind games with him. Something Cersei instantly saw through, when she was manipulating the late King Joffery. In other words, Margaery knows what she's doing.
TheContact
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I don't think that's the case at all. If anything I think her movements match her intentions. You can see she almost goes in for the kiss but moves up the forehead. I think she's trying to tease him and build him up to the point where he can't refuse her and that is her ultimate motive based on the anecdote Olenna told her about her husband
That scene made me jump, because I was NOT expecting that.
no way. She's a priestess of fire, ice walkers are the opposite. If anything, she is one of the few who will probably be a great asset against the white walkers
Yeah, the end scene looked good, but the Dany parts looked unusually rough in places.
There is only one God and it's between Margaery's legs.
Littlefinger pretty much confirmed that he's receiving support from the Iron Bank and / or has his own private army. If that's the case, I don't know why they would show Davos writing to the Iron Bank in the previous episode unless the Bank is going to play a big part in Stannis's storyline. So maybe that means the Bank will betray Littlefinger. I dunno.
Littlefinger pretty much confirmed that he's receiving support from the Iron Bank and / or has his own private army. If that's the case, I don't know why they would show Davos writing to the Iron Bank in the previous episode unless the Bank is going to play a big part in Stannis's storyline. So maybe that means the Bank will betray Littlefinger. I dunno.
WesternHeretic
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You want what you can't have, and she's giving the kid a taste but holding the goodies back.
He's going to be drooling over her for years....
Praise God!
She's on the side of fire though.
Does Jamie give a shit about his kids at all? I know he can't really show too much affection for them for obvious reasons, but he barely acknowledges their existence.
I mean I can understand why he wouldn't, as much as he loves his sister, those kids are a creepy reminder that he's fucked up.
I mean I can understand why he wouldn't, as much as he loves his sister, those kids are a creepy reminder that he's fucked up.
WesternHeretic
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Definitely not Joffery (that scene with the book of Kings Guard made it look like Jami wanted to bitch slap the living shit out of him), as for the other two I think he cares, just not deeply.
Gotta give it to jamie. Patience of a god to have your son talk shit to you and knowing you have to obey every word he says.
First thing I said was "Oh! That's Tyrion's hooker girlfriend!"
Nameless
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His light is pouring over you, friend.
If you buy what Melisandre says about a Lord of Darkness and Cold, then the White Walkers are most certainly his minions. It would make sense. Through him his followers turn the living into Ice Creatures and reanimate the dead, while the Lord of Light allows his disciples to bring the dead back to life, or back from "the darkness" as Beric describes it.
Also, Mormont says "They worship different gods beyond The Wall" when Jon grills him about Craster giving his sons to White Walkers. Could there be a sect of Dark Lord followers somewhere in the deep North, ensuring their White Walker overlords are supplied with newborns?
WesternHeretic
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Could you imagine when they were filming that and he just burst out "STFU I AM YOUR FATHER"
Would make for the best blooper/take out ever.
The idea that kiss was on the head due to producer holdback is utterly ludicrous.
Ultimadrago
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So...when is Natalie Dormer going to kiss me goodnight?
First step, you need to be a product of incest.
After that you're going to need a brother...
I guess we all weren't expecting him to show up at CB so soon. Did he drive there lol.
WesternHeretic
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Renly wasn't a product of incest.
I think you just need to be a fucking king or lord (with any claim *even if it's a bull shit one* to the throne.
The Dreadfort is not that far from the Castle Black.
http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/episode-4/map
http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/episode-4/map
The 'new friends' that Littlefinger was talking to Sansa about are clearly the Tyrells. Him and granny Tyrell were the ones who plotted and enacted Joffrey's poisoning.
The Tyrells are rich, so if Littlefinger has them on side, he wouldn't need the Iron Bank. Olenna was using this as the basis of the alliance with the Lannisters. She said as much to Tywin. That the King/Lannisters owned money to the Iron Bank and she could help.
Carnby
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Exactly.
Stevetopsy
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It seems to me like it goes, from the bottom up: Dead people turned Wights ---> White Walkers ---> Horned Blue guy/guys
So far we know Wights are controlled by the White Walkers. Since the White Walker brought the baby, it seems they are controlled or at least serve the Blue Horned guys. Of course i'm assuming the figures standing in the distance are of the same race as the guy who touches the baby.
All i know is there is no way in hell this series will live up to the constant teases they deliver with every episode. Everything has been building to this giant dragon/demons/army confrontation seemingly for 4 seasons now there is just no way they will deliver. They will make their millions and then fans will eat them alive. So many cliffhanger teases.
CrocMother
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Just realized that the head mutineer was the german scientist in Pacific Rim.
Shame he's probably getting what's coming to him (not really)
I have more faith in GRRM than the Lost writers
Shame he's probably getting what's coming to him (not really)
I have more faith in GRRM than the Lost writers
I like to dream they have a bunker of vfx artists somewhere working on the final battle for the 7th season or whatever. And then they win all the emmys. It's a nice fantasy.
If Lost writers wrote GoT the final season would reveal that the world is in fact inside the eye of a giant and Denareys flies her dragons to find the Other eye where it's always spring and everyone lives happily ever after.
After 2nd viewing there was a moment where she embraced it like she wanted it. If she didnt say 'no' at the end i would have thought she was into it. It definitely did seem odd especially how his character has been more likeable lately. A misstep for sure.
I'm not as concerned about the climax that GRRM writes as I am about HBO's version of it. If the series does end with a massive battle between all the armies, dragons, and White Walkers, I'm worried the show's budget constraints will hold it back big time.
The vfx work for this show has been above and beyond what you see in TV, without a doubt. This show draws enough numbers where i'd like to think they would splurge big time to send the series off.
WesternHeretic
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Well the show is going to past the book eventually and once that happens HBO can just make up shit to please the audience.
Last season = A war with everyone for 10 straight episodes!
Joe Prodigy
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Just curious, how is this show doing with ratings and money? I'm pretty sure people joke about the lack of dragons due to the budget.
I've always just assumed it was a popular show. So that gets more money, right?
I've always just assumed it was a popular show. So that gets more money, right?
mercenar1e
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What's the plan with the white walkers? Will it play out with many battles or are they going with one large confrontation? Also was that the king of the white walkers in Sundays episode? I hope the war doesn't end with his death..
WesternHeretic
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Don't know about money wise but viewer wise it's just growing and growing.
Steelyuhas
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Content Roundup: Oathkeeper
Reviews and Recaps:
AV Club (newbies)
Alan Sepinwall (Hitfix) Review
Andy Greenwald (Grantland) Recap
Rolling Stone Recap
IGN Review
Memles (Cultural Learnings) Recap
TIME Recap
The Guardian Recap
James Hibberd (EW) Recap
Alyssa Rosenberg (Washington Post) Recap
WiC.net Recap (Unsullied)
HBO Content:
HBO Viewers Guide
Inside the Episode
"Lurking Nearby" GRRM talks Littlefinger
"Justice or Mercy?" Dany and Ser Barristan disagree
Scene: Olenna and Margaery
"First of His Name" Preview
Interviews:
THR: Writer Bryan Cogman
Making Game of Thrones: Writer Bryan Cogman
Ratings: Episode hits series high, 6.9M viewers
This post will be linked in the OP.
Bear in mind even with it's $80 million budget that's still split over 10 hours and a huge chunk of that goes towards the cast.
Steelyuhas
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It's the most successful show in HBO's history and it's also outrageously expensive.
Yeah, the last episode had the highest ratings of the series, and I believe it's HBO's second most-watched show ever behind The Sopranos.
I don't know, that actually doesn't sound that much to me, that's just $8 million an episode. Though I guess it would be nice to know how much HBO receives in terms of profit.
Steelyuhas
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HBO does not release budget numbers of their show, but I would hazard a guess at 8 to 10 million an episode this season.
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