Nameless
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I also wouldn't discount the possibility that Varys was just trying to troll/intimidate the new small council member.
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I also wouldn't discount the possibility that Varys was just trying to troll/intimidate the new small council member.
OG_Original Gamer
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Sometimes I wonder if I should have watched any episode this season, and wait for them all to be available on-demand. The wait for each episode is agonizing.
RustyNails
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Low point of the episode was Yara retreating in 5 minutes after giving a William Wallace of a speech. High point was the last 5 minutes.
It's a shame we wasted so many pages earlier this season debating Margery's status after Joffrey's death when it was so obvious that Tommen would soon become king, Cersei would be Queen Regent due to his young age, and Margery would need to marry Tommen to be queen. Certain people really went out of their way to make a simple situation complicated.
Dude took out out all of Yara's men single handedly.lol.
ComputerBlue
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Who? Mace or Oberyn?
Nameless
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Oberyn. No one takes Mace seriously.
Yeah. And am I thinking of something else or has Varys said explicitly that he wouldn't want it? Or maybe that it's not where the power lies or something?
ComputerBlue
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But why him though? I didn't notice anything to give me reason to believe he would have any ill feelings towards him.
So it looks like Theon has the stockholm syndrome now. I have no idea what GRRM is doing with this character.
francknara
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Dinklage was award-tier but Theon's actor also was very good in this episode.
The whole Ramsay/Reek thing is way harder for me to watch than the actual torture scenes.
I hadn't realize how much of a pet he was, i thought he acted like it but in fact in his head he IS a dog. That's.... Wow.
The whole Ramsay/Reek thing is way harder for me to watch than the actual torture scenes.
I hadn't realize how much of a pet he was, i thought he acted like it but in fact in his head he IS a dog. That's.... Wow.
They'll never let a eunuch be king.
RustyNails
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After all this crap, I hope Tyrion somehow defects to Stannis.
#onetrueking.
#onetrueking.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
yeah that was badass. I might be falling for that psycho.
Im assuming varys knows who actually did it... because varys knows all. If he does that means his options are letting tyrion die, or implicating house Tyrell in the murder of Joffrey and prolonging the war when they obviously have bigger things to worry about.
Nameless
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Nothing malicious. Just posturing and playing up to that mysterious reputation of his.
Who knows, though. He's the only person remotely aware of just how dangerous Littlefinger is an the scope of his desires. Perhaps Varys really does see himself as the realm's only hope.
Arkos
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That shit was hard to watch, his entire story line is basically a drawn out torture scene. I'm hoping his master (forget his name) does get a little overconfident and sends him in as a spy but he gets caught/saved before he can return or help them.
If he actually helps them sack his own castle I will just die
RustyNails
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I wish the whole Reek/Ramsay arc reached it's conclusion. I was rooting for Yara to take the castle, but it was so badly executed.
It seemed like before this he was putting all his money on Tyrion to beat Littlefinger, now that it isn't an option anymore you're probably right.
Nameless
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Some people complained that they spent too much time on Theon's torture last season, but seeing where things are now it was necessary. I actually buy Theon as a broken reconditioned devotee of Ramsay Snow after seeing the process of him being subjected to escalating mental & physical abuse and manipulations over an extended period of time.
ComputerBlue
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Makes me wonder what Jamie's reaction is to Tyrion saying it. He can't be happy about it.
Fully expecting the fight to be Bronn and Jamie. Jamie as Kingsguard will be chosen by Tywin. Naturally, Tyrion will go with Bronn. This all be foreshadowed by their training together.
And I'm going to FUCKING hate it, because I love them both, but if they both get chosen, one of them will die.
And I'm going to FUCKING hate it, because I love them both, but if they both get chosen, one of them will die.
OG_Original Gamer
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Was there any point that he and Littlefinger came to an agreement?
Stratosphere
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So how does trial by combat work exactly? Wouldn't this allow for the best fighters to get away with their crimes by calling upon this?
ComputerBlue
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that Jamie only has his left hand, which wasn't his fighting arm, and outside of Tyrion and Bronn, no one know's he's been training so I think most wouldn't choose him.
Perhaps them training was a foreshadowing of the contest though.
Also, who gets to pick who fights? Is it the accuser, Cercei. Or the Jury.
No one ever said justice in GoT was fair. It's not like this trial has been all that just.
Valar Morghulis
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They believe the gods directly control the outcome of trial by combat. The Dog has been in many trial by combats and the last one he was surely guilty but overcame it, it turned out to be a good thing since he's protecting Aria now, and she wanted him to die in that trial.
Well, last time Tyrion was in this situation, it was with Lady Arryn, so that's a bad example. My assumption is Cersei, who would choose Jamie more than likely. If not, its Tywin, who would likely choose Jamie. Then it boils down to who Tyrion picks.
Chie Satonaka
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Unarmored.
I can't even believe how Ramsay Snow, all by himself, is making House Greyjoy look like shit.
"50 best killers on the Iron Islands." Psh. No wonder the first rebellion got curbstomped.
Nameless
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Could you imagine Varys vs Littlefinger with the gloves completely off. Game of Thrones would become impossible to follow as the show would turn into an hour of audience being lied to week after week.
ComputerBlue
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I don't think Tywin would choose Jamie, he risks having him killed and losing any chance of his name being carried on.
And again, the missing hand. Everyone think's he's no longer a capable fighter. No one know's he's been training. I just can't see anyone picking him other than Tyrion.
Then it's a good thing they're no longer in direct contact.
Nameless
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They've tolerated each other, even expressed fondness & respect for one another, but there's never been an agreement. Both have kept their rivalry mostly friendly, though I suspect that's mostly due to their being smart enough to choose their enemies wisely.
Yes, that was Meryn Trant.
RustyNails
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I wish Tyrion told Shae that he called her a whore because it was the only way she would leave and her life could be saved. Tywin wanted her for questioning that day.
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