AuthenticM
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Has Charles Dance ever done a non-villain role ? I've always seen him as villains. Always.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Miles Quaritch
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So why isn't there an episode next week?
Seems like a tremendous dick move to have a week delay right now, especially with how eager some people are on the internet to spoil the outcome of the fight.
Seems like a tremendous dick move to have a week delay right now, especially with how eager some people are on the internet to spoil the outcome of the fight.
Memorial day weekend, big holiday in the US and it's a dramatic ratings decrease to show it during that weekend.
The Lamonster
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Dammit now someone is going to post that gif of him in drag.
OG_Original Gamer
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Where would Tyrion go assuming his champion wins? Would he then leave with his champion?
Morrigan Stark
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He was that doctor in Alien 3.
PhoenixDark
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The last episode that was aired on Memorial Day was the Blackwater episode, and it resulted in a large viewer drop-off. HBO wants to avoid that happening again.
I told my friends the same thing I always tell them when GoT is airing: avoid comments sections. If you play video games turn chat off lol.
In all honesty Oberyn/Mountain was "spoiled" for me by unmarked episode names listed in the OP. I mean sure it was in a preview too, but the episode name has been there for like, ever.
Anyway this is my last post in this thread as I've started to read the books. I will still read this thread but don't trust myself to post because I'm already getting starting to get mixed up between the two. Good luck and have fun all, it's been a nice thread to chill in. Well done on being the least spoilery place on the interwebs!
Anyway this is my last post in this thread as I've started to read the books. I will still read this thread but don't trust myself to post because I'm already getting starting to get mixed up between the two. Good luck and have fun all, it's been a nice thread to chill in. Well done on being the least spoilery place on the interwebs!
He had to go play some monster on the Hobbit instead. Lame.
Morrigan Stark
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A guy I know from NZ who works on various TV and movie production sets (worked on Spartacus, LotR and the Hobbit) had this to say about Conan Stevens:
I asked him to elaborate, but he hasn't replied yet. :S Maybe they just had lots of trouble working with the actor?
I asked him to elaborate, but he hasn't replied yet. :S Maybe they just had lots of trouble working with the actor?
CitizenVectron
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And his role ended up getting cut anyway. Double-lame.
Miles Quaritch
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Thanks. I guess it's understandable wanting to delay it a week with that in mind, still doesn't make it any less annoying though.
And yeah, I've pretty much stopped visiting YT and other sites without moderated posting. I feel GAF is probably the safest place to post/read for the next couple of weeks.
CrocMother
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Do you guys think Little Finger's speech about his ideal world where "love conquers all" is more double talk to get into Sansa's head or a true insight into his motivations?
Sansa: "Why did you really kill Joffrey?"
*awkward pause*
LF: "I loved your mother love triumphs all"
So his real motivation for killing Joffrey was for Cat's death? So why not poison Tywin, who was chiefly responsible?
Why does Tywin not seem to care about finding Joffrey's real killer?!!
auuggh so many questions
Sansa: "Why did you really kill Joffrey?"
*awkward pause*
LF: "I loved your mother love triumphs all"
So his real motivation for killing Joffrey was for Cat's death? So why not poison Tywin, who was chiefly responsible?
Why does Tywin not seem to care about finding Joffrey's real killer?!!
auuggh so many questions
CountAntonius
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I think Tywin was in on it with Lil Finger and the Lady Olena. He's a smart guy and he knew Joffrey would bring down his family one way or another. He also knew Tommen was next in line and easily manipulated(which he started doing immediately). He is using the trial as a way to get Jaime to take his place at the Rock.
Deified Data
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Baelish seeks only power and influence. He's just giving Cat lipservice.
Yep. He's using Sansa just as he uses everyone around him to his advantage. He's telling her want she wants to hear (he assassinated Joffrey as vengeance for her mother, not power or wealth). That's not to say he didn't really have feelings for Cat, and maybe Sansa by extension, but Pete's in it for himself. He gains your trust then fucks you.
Well Conan Stevens has got a reputation for being a bit of a dick anyway but I think there was an issue where he got cast in the Hobbit and the schedules clashed.
Nameless
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I was avoiding season promos all year long, only to have Oberyn v Mountain fight spoiled by someone posting the pics from the promo here. I was incensed. Based Cornballer removed the offending post in seconds, but the damage was done
It's strange. Not sure why some people feel the need to stand up and let everyone know that they know stuff. Are there internet points being given out or something?
I'm so thankful Ned's death wasn't spoiled for me. For me that was one of the most shocking moments in any show, and when Game of Thrones really became game of Thrones.
I understand that's their reason, but it really is a dumb one. It's not like they're worried about ad revenue, and with services like HBO On-demand and HBO Go it requires no effort for those who don't watch due to the holiday to catch up.
The one god damn Sunday not stained by the fact I have to work the next morning there's no Thrones. Horse shit
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Odd and pretty incredible.
Maybe I'm crazy, but after the episodes so far this season, I'm convinced that Baelish does care for Sansa and she would be the last person he would throw to the dogs at this point.
Not to say he isn't a greasy slimeball, but he seems to genuinely care about her wellbeing, and he seems intent on educating on her on how to manipulate the game of thrones.
Not to say he isn't a greasy slimeball, but he seems to genuinely care about her wellbeing, and he seems intent on educating on her on how to manipulate the game of thrones.
CrocMother
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He put her in a pretty fucking dangerous situation, basically kidnapped her and then tried to make out with her, and I'm pretty sure she's like 15.
I agree, she is the last person he would throw to the dogs at this point. But he would still throw her to the dogs if he had enough to gain from it.
Nameless
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But the age of consent in Westeros is whatever the man says it is.
CrocMother
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It's not even an age of consent, it's a gender of consent. Are you a man? Do you consent? go for it!
Miles Quaritch
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I thought it was the 'first bleed'?
I'm pretty sure that if a girls gets her period she becomes a woman and it's "fine". After all, teenagers are an invention of our society.
EDIT: beaten, I'm so slow!
Nameless
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#theyhurtlittlegirlseverywhere
They become most valuable once they have their period and are able to bear children, certainly. But I don't think most of the world is morally averse to sleeping with girls before. Except maybe in Dorne. Things sound incredibly progressive there.
BurnOutBrighter
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Yeah back in the day people were getting married and being kings and queens at 14 and 15.
Also, life expectancy would be a lot shorter. You'd be lucky to make it to 45.
And infant mortality rates would be super high, so baby making would be a high priority.
Also, life expectancy would be a lot shorter. You'd be lucky to make it to 45.
And infant mortality rates would be super high, so baby making would be a high priority.
poppabk
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I think she is his prize, scarface style. He doesn't just want power he wants to exert it over the people who had physical power and used it, as he sees it, against him. Chief among those was Ned, who stole catelyn from him by being a strong warrior. His victory over Ned is now complete, he got Ned killed and is now seducing his daughter.
Fair warning: In the HBO videos of this last week, GRR Martin himself explains exactly how Little Finger sees Sansa (and hence, that part of his motivation), so do not look if you want to keep that "mysticism" on him.
I mean, anyone that put some thought would reach to the same conclusion, but I honestly was a bit annoyed that was layered out so clearly.
She was just happy to see Selyse.
Nameless
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I think he's sees Sansa as a more beautiful version of the girl he's been in love/obsessed with since childhood. His love for Cat is just about the only genuine thing about the guy. You could hear the passion in his voice when he Sansa asked him why he killed Joffrey. It was a power play, but he also took Catelyn's murder personally.
Makes him an even bigger asshole for betraying Ned Stark though. Makes it look personal in hindsight.
Cersei as Queen Regent is the State, is she not?
LegendofDragoonLives
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It was for both to me. His feelings for Cat seem genuene and I wouldn't doubt he has some attachment to Sansa in some way. Not love but lust is certainly a possibility. She looked really stunning with her red hair when it was snowing. Part revenge and the other for himself. If someone else doesn't kill Tywin, you know he's gunning for his head, Roose Bolton, and that Harry Potter cunt janitor.
I don't think you are, or we're both crazy. If anyone is protected by Littlefinger, it's Sansa and not just for "power of the North!!1"
Does she know for sure? I thought her aunt just said I killed for you without specifying.
GungHo
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Yes. Several. He's just really good at being affably evil.
Jesus, Sean Bean really does die in everything.
AlteredForms
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Tyrion: "I guess I'll have to kill the mountain myself. It should make for a good song."
Bronn: "I hope to hear them sing it one day."
Bronn: "I hope to hear them sing it one day."
Matt_
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Dude, spoilers wtf
I really don't know how the trial will go.
I can't see Oberyn getting beat as that means him and tyrion will be written off in favour of keeping that brute (unless tyrion can still plead mercy and go to the wall?) but then the mountain getting beat just outright doesn't make much sense either. What will Tyrion do? He'll be disowned and hated by everyone and Cersei will almost definitely have him killed pretty quick so whats his story from there?
edit; Yeah that scene majorly soured me on Bronn. Shouldn't have been surprised at that course of action given how him and tyrion met in the first place but it did seem quite brutal
I actually contemplated on spoiler tagging that part of my comment lolDude, spoilers wtf
Why?
I can't blame bronn. Did you see the mountain? Did you listen to what bronn said? If tyrion was your BFF, would you fight the mountain? Fuck no.
- He was bought out by Cersei (i.e. not as much a friend to Tyrion as we thought)
- Hadn't come to see Tyrion at all prior to this meeting, or seemingly made no attempts to either
- Alluded to murdering his future wife's sister in the future so that he could rule a castle
- Had no interest in fighting for his so-called "friend" (though against the Mountain, that's somewhat reasonable)
MMBosstones86
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I don't think it's "had no interest in fighting", more "had more interest in living"
CountAntonius
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So basically for being Bron lol.
Tyrion said it best. "That's why I liked you in the first place."
AuthenticM
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If you paid any attention to the scene, you would have seen that the real reason Bronn doesn't want to fight for Tyrion is that he does not want to die. He doesn't believe he can win against The Mountain. That scene cemented the fact that they were not just parties of a contract, but friends.
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