I doubt anyone of the main cast would have a chance. Really only reason oberyn did was he was a spear user. You get within mountains range and you're fucked.
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I doubt anyone of the main cast would have a chance. Really only reason oberyn did was he was a spear user. You get within mountains range and you're fucked.
Cloud Strife
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Oberyn vs. Mountain summary:
I've noticed a pattern. Anyone who gets close to messing with the Lannisters in a big way, ends up dead.
- Ned finds out Cersei cheated on the King with her brother, and is about to tell the king...BAM DEAD!
- Jon Arryn found out the exact same thing Ned did but did it earlier...BAM DEAD!
- Robb about to make a big play against the Lannister seat of power...BAM DEAD!
- Prince Oberyn about to publically hang the murder of his sister and her kids on Tywin Lannister...BAM DEAD!
Forceatowulf
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I don't mind people not liking her character or actress. That's all good and fine as I said before. I've been there myself with other popular TV shows.
But if people are gonna bitch and moan about a major character every week religiously like they love to do they need to come to the table with some REAL shit and not the hot garbage I've seen posted here every week.
It's getting to the point that if she farts the wrong way she's not just a rude person that lacks etiquette, no, she's somehow channeling the ghost of Hitler himself. It's getting tired.
WesternHeretic
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Just to confirm but little finger you know.... fucked Sansa right?
Deified Data
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"Work for me or feel free to do your own thing elsewhere" isn't much of an ultimatum. They had their choice and they overwhelmingly chose the protection of Daenerys.
well then I'd say he's dead because he has a lethal wound and his part in the story is over. I suspect he'll be announced as dead next episode and we wont be wasting any more time on him.
I've said this before as well, if he dies, then that's most likely it for me. But there's hope, since this goes for the unexpected, and at this point it is expected that Tyrion is going to die, I have a feeling that he will live/escape. Just a hunch.
As others have mentioned, he is basically the moral center of the show.
Oberyn vs. Mountain summary:
I don't want to laugh, but I did.
Garrett 2U
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Idk if I could handle Tyrion dying
Mashin Haters
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I was getting happy when Oberyn was dancing all around the Mountain. But then i remembered its Game of Thrones and nothing good is going to happen.
I was prepared for Oberyn to die, but wtf man the eyes!?!?! Nothing can prepare you for that shit. Goddam it.
I was prepared for Oberyn to die, but wtf man the eyes!?!?! Nothing can prepare you for that shit. Goddam it.
That's fine, I just thought it was unnecessary. What's the purpose of foreshadowing something that happens in the next scene. My main gripe with it, is that it dragged on too long.
And no way that was one of the best scenes ever. The exchange between Littlefinger and Varys from season one was much better (and it wasn't in the books either) so, I'm not all about plot.
Anyways, we can agree to disagree.
The whole point of what?
Hoya Destroyer
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Yeah *sigh* I think you're right. He is too strong.
I am confident that the Mountain didnt die after that fight. Now there is a chance for The Hound to eventually kill him.
Seriously, 5 hours on and I'm still shook about Oberyn. Ugh. The fact that he had single handedly embarrassed the Lannisters by easily besting their champion, and with such style and passion, only to be so fucking brutally destroyed when he became drunk with confidence and fervor. And his entire quest was just, and he had such charisma.
#thegooddieyoung
Random thought edit: is Kings Landing like DC, and it just exists in Westeros, or is there a smaller kingdom it leads as well?
#thegooddieyoung
Random thought edit: is Kings Landing like DC, and it just exists in Westeros, or is there a smaller kingdom it leads as well?
Poetic.Injustice
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Man there are some squeamish people in this thread. :lol
Next week looks to be the siege of castle black. Can't wait.
MagicWithEarvin
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Holy damnnnnnn
That ending, though. Oberyn WTF, man! =(
His scream at the end sent chills down my spine. Possibly the most brutal death in the entire show.
That ending, though. Oberyn WTF, man! =(
His scream at the end sent chills down my spine. Possibly the most brutal death in the entire show.
samus4ever
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Just got done watching the last episode holy shit!
Hoya Destroyer
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It is very hard to accept as a viewer. This event was probably more shocking for me than the Red Wedding - and I was SHOCKED by that :O
It's weird. I'm honestly more upset about losing that character than I am curious about Tyrion's fate. Red Wedding was strategic, this was just tragic.
Nose Master
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I (stupidly) already knew the outcome of the Oberyn v Mountain fight (I was drunk and pestered a friend.) Even still, I was hoping he was fucking with me.
Other random points:
-Sansa was lookin' goooood.
-Hound better not die from a fucking infection like a bitch. Drogo dying to that was bad enough.
-Didn't see the thing coming with Jorah.
Also I feel dumb asking but, what was the point of the beetle story? The symbolism was lost on me.
Other random points:
-Sansa was lookin' goooood.
-Hound better not die from a fucking infection like a bitch. Drogo dying to that was bad enough.
-Didn't see the thing coming with Jorah.
Also I feel dumb asking but, what was the point of the beetle story? The symbolism was lost on me.
I'm pretty sure GRRM did that just to confuse people
Nah, he's right. Its based off region. Had they been born down south for example, their name would have been Rivers.
UnObtainium17
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Its gonna suck so bad if tyrion will really die.. the dynamic w/in kings landing characters will get that much uninteresting w/ tyrion out of the picture.
I imagine tyrion can use his knowledge as a coins guy to live again. Like he can convince someone he can help his family get rid of its debt. But begging is not tyrions way of surving so this is still pretty unlikely. Fuckin jaime better nut the fuck up and save his bro.
I imagine tyrion can use his knowledge as a coins guy to live again. Like he can convince someone he can help his family get rid of its debt. But begging is not tyrions way of surving so this is still pretty unlikely. Fuckin jaime better nut the fuck up and save his bro.
BadAss2961
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Oberyn vs. Mountain summary:
lol
I think that was Oberyn's biggest mistake actually. He lost a battle trying to take a false confession out of the Mountain. The Mountain had no order, he is just the Mountain, I think he raped her, and he murdered her and he killed her children just because he is who he is. Just like the stubborn guy crushing the beetles.
PS. I don't think that Sansa got Dark, just smarter.
Angry Fork
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Tyrion is entitled, but he has done honorable things for people he didn't have to, not in order to gain something but for it's own good. He has fought in battles and is often brave and selfless. He is realistic about who he is and doesn't try to be a perfect altruistic gem but he's not the type to punish people for refusing to bow down to him.
Tywin is a shit heel but he has fought in battles for whatever he claims he should have. The Stark's are (were) generally all brave honorable people who have refused to be hypocritical about who they are.
Jaime lost a hand for Brienne and potentially his life in the bear pit, Oberyn just lost his life for his families honor, Sansa was a shithead and potential Daenerys until she became brutally victimized/tortured by the royalty class and now realizes how foolish she was. I know there are others I'm forgetting right now.
I have no idea what Daenerys has given up for what she claims is hers (and none of you have explained/justified why she has a right to the throne besides being lucky.) In season 1 I liked and sympathized with her because she was a victim of brutal tyrants who were going to use her for their own power, she was raped and had no way out.
Then she took a turn for the worse by loving her rapist, going on pillaging adventures with them and I could no longer understand the characters appeal as a 'good guy'. If she killed her rapist, ran away, got the dragons, and then went on a humanitarian tour of duty to free other slaves (without any claims to a throne), she'd be amazing and I'd love her, but that's not what has happened. She wants to rule over other people she feels are inferior to her, because of her last name, and she will do whatever is necessary to get that. (Actually she'll do nothing, she'll tell others to and if they refuse then walkie talkie the dragons.)
Like I said before, I made up a list of things Daenerys would have to do to be considered good while simultaneously claiming a right to a throne. If you're serious about white knighting for her you should reply to those instead of the broad idea of entitlement, which is generally bad but not the sole reason I don't like Daenerys.
Mashin Haters
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i died at the judge judy part
Nose Master
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I hope Mountain eats it. The most tragic part is that Oberyn dies while that one-dimensional fuck is still alive.
With Tyrian probably dying soon, there's not many characters left that are really great. Jamie's sucked since he lost his hand. Ramsay is about it.
With Tyrian probably dying soon, there's not many characters left that are really great. Jamie's sucked since he lost his hand. Ramsay is about it.
CountAntonius
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There was a part of me the mountain would yell out Tywin at the end and Oberyn would have chucked his spear right through Tywin's head right there in front of everybody...and then...yeah. This was the most painful death since Ned because I really liked this character and his story.
I hold out hope at least that his spear did end up killing the mountain. At least in that way he would have gotten revenge.
I just can't see Tyrion dying like this. They have been ignoring Stannis too long. Maybe he will come in and fuck some shit up during the execution or something.
I hold out hope at least that his spear did end up killing the mountain. At least in that way he would have gotten revenge.
I just can't see Tyrion dying like this. They have been ignoring Stannis too long. Maybe he will come in and fuck some shit up during the execution or something.
UnObtainium17
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Amazing post. Gotta be the best salt posts ive seen since ive become a member here lmao.
MeBecomingI
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Hah, episode didn't even faze me. I totally expected his death at the end of last episode. I've come to expect that type of shit with Game of Thrones. If you like a character, they'll die and likely in some horrible way. The ones you want to see succeed will fail horribly, etc, etc. It is kind of becoming a little cliche at this point.
Yo, there's actually a whole other thread for folks who've read the books: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=793439
Angry Fork
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I thought Oberyn was gonna throw the spear at Tywin too for a moment, that would've been cool. I feel bad for Oberyns girlfriend/wife whoever she is.
I don't think Tyrion will die, at least not now. It feels like every major death on this show has been the result of a 'surprise', quick thing that nobody expects. (Although I was expecting Oberyn to die somehow.) So if Tyrion was to die I don't think it would be through this long built up effort. I only recall Ned being a character who died in that way.
Damn, that fight.
But what I enjoy the most are all the salty tears and the complaints about "the bad guys always winning".
Man, for the people that had hitched their rides onto the Lannister bandwagon exclusively from the get go, this show has been Ws all the way through so far. No tangible setbacks, all wins so far. Even stuff like Joffrey's death is a net gain for Team Lannister. they get rid of a hated psychopath and put a much more liked and disciplined individual in his place. If I could go back to 2011 knowing what I know now, I'd love to be a Lannister fan from "ready, set, go", and smugly watch all others cry in despair.
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