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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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Nerokis

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fuck this show fuck this show fuck this show fuck this show

I expected it couldn't end so perfectly, but my god, that was the most brutal thing I've ever witnessed. Initially, you see Oberyn, a character who by now you've probably fallen in love with, completely confident and fearless. During the fight, he's so skilled, so graceful, but with the Mountain getting some solid hits in. Throughout, he is increasingly emotional, uttering a rhythmic chorus of "Confess, you killed my sister..."more and more powerfully. You're on his side. You're with him. You're moved by him. When it seems he's on the verge of winning, practically that he's already won, you're prepared to post "FUCK YES!" in the NeoGAF GoT thread. It's so exciting. You're lifted up so high.

And then that? Fucking that? No mercy. One strong punch by the Mountain, and suddenly the roller coaster begins to dip, only to fall into fucking hell. Who wanted Oberyn to lose? But even more, who wanted to see him in so much fucking pain, dying such a horrifying death, hearing those last words from the Mountain as he was so fucking helpless?

Fuck you, Tywin. I can't wait to watch all you horrifying bastards die. And no, you're not taking Tyrion with you. Fuck no. That can't be happening.

God, and I was enjoying this episode so much. Thanks, Sansa and Littlefinger, you certainly tried to make this an episode that wouldn't end with me slightly shakily typing up a heartbroken rant on NeoGAF.
 
Dany, no matter how hard they try, is disconnected from everyone else. Her arc has been boring ever since 3.04 when she Dracarys'd Kraznys. That was the peak of her story and it's been downhill ever since.
Yeah well ruling is tough. That is what they are showig with Danerys. She cant just keep walking into countries, kill the masters and free the slaves and go about like nothing happened. She will be tied down for a while.
 

Spineker

Banned
I doubt it since they made a big deal about getting this new actor

That gruesome scene with Oberyns crushed head and the Mountain laying next to him wasn't just for shock value. I am convinced the Mountain is dead and his killing of Oberyn was his last act of defiance.
 

Dryk

Member
I don't think getting his head smashed like a pumpkin was apart of his plan.
That's what's so great about it! Oberyn got what he wanted, but had it cost him his life and turned on him because its the last thing he hears before a horrible death.
 
so correct me if I'm wrong but the second to last eps of each season have been pretty noteworthy:
S1-Ned dies
S2-Blackwater battle
S3-Red Wedding
S4....? I wonder if we are due for another big battle episode. We haven't really had one since Blackwater



That's what's so great about it! Oberyn got what he wanted, but had it cost him his life and turned on him because its the last thing he hears before a horrible death.

Oberyn absolutely did not get what he wanted. He already knew the Mountain did it, he wanted him to confess AND give up Tywin as having given the order, and then he wanted to kill Tywin.
 
That's what's so great about it! Oberyn got what he wanted, but had it cost him his life and turned on him because its the last thing he hears before a horrible death.

Nah, I think he wanted to know who made the order and to get vengeance for that, also.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
so correct me if I'm wrong but the second to last eps of each season have been pretty noteworthy:
S1-Ned dies
S2-Blackwater battle
S3-Red Wedding
S4....? I wonder if we are due for another big battle episode. We haven't really had one since Blackwater





Oberyn absolutely did not get what he wanted. He already knew the Mountain did it, he wanted him to confess AND give up Tywin as having given the order, and then he wanted to kill Tywin.

Looks like they're setting it up for a blackwater bay type episode at castle black.
 

Moaradin

Member
EP 9 preview talk:

It looks like it's gonna be another Blackwater type episode. The entire preview focuses on the battle at the wall.
 

Vashetti

Banned
Yeah well ruling is tough. That is what they are showig with Danerys. She cant just keep walking into countries, kill the masters and free the slaves and go about like nothing happened. She will be tied down for a while.

Yup, exactly why she said a few episodes ago that she will stay in Meereen. Her story is going to be 'stagnant' for a long while. She's going to be on the backburner for a long time.
 
I think Ramsay has potential to be a fun character if they let him do stuff now outside of torturing Reek. I kinda like him :lol. Another one is Ser Jorah, I hope he gets to do something interesting in Westeros now that he is free from the Queen Bore.

And I must be the only one that was happy the Mountain won the duel. I fear for Tyrion but Oberyn had it coming. If Tyrion goes the list of interesting characters are really dwindling. I was kind of sad to see Joffrey go and if Tyrion goes too...
 

Nameless

Member
so correct me if I'm wrong but the second to last eps of each season have been pretty noteworthy:
S1-Ned dies
S2-Blackwater battle
S3-Red Wedding
S4....? I wonder if we are due for another big battle episode. We haven't really had one since Blackwater





Oberyn absolutely did not get what he wanted. He already knew the Mountain did it, he wanted him to confess AND give up Tywin as having given the order, and then he wanted to kill Tywin.

It'll be some LOST level bullshit if the next episode takes place entirely at the Wall and we don't see King's Landing again until the finale. The central storyline of S2 was building toward Blackwater, so dedicating a whole episode to it made sense. I love the Wall story this season but it's isn't the primary arc of the show.
 

Nerokis

Member
So, after watching last week's episode, I wrote this:

Am I the only one conflicted on the whole Oberyn vs. The Mountain thing? On one hand, I want Oberyn to win. I want Oberyn to get his revenge, I want Tyrion to live, it would be absolutely tragic to see both/either die, and The Mountain deserves to die as much as anyone. On the other, I almost feel it would be out of character for the good guys to win yet again. There's all this build up for the Craster's Keep mission, with Locke as the ticking time bomb waiting to explode...only for Locke to be unceremoniously ripped apart, and everything to go completely smoothly. Joffrey is poisoned. Dany is at the peak of her power. In general, things are going pretty well for the good guys, no?

Now that so much has been invested into this trial, it's hard to imagine the good guys simply triumphing again without any catch. Fuck, Oberyn and The Mountain are going to kill each other, aren't they? Oberyn isn't going to survive this season. I almost feel he can't. I almost want the tragedy, because this show has conditioned me to want it. In a way, it's a necessity for the storytelling that Tyrion either dies or gets out of this in a very, very bittersweet way that makes the audience happy to see him figuratively spit in Cersei and Tywin's faces. Or, on the other hand, Oberyn takes everyone by surprise and shows us how much we'll miss Cersei and Tywin when they're gone by somehow going above and beyond and killing them all.

The speculation ended up more or less holding up (so far), but nonetheless, those words in bold are the most naive I have ever spoken. I should have known that whatever this show was going to give me, it was absolutely not going to be something I wanted.
 

Philippo

Member
Anybody posted this yet?
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That's some crazy foreshadowing there.
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
fuck this show fuck this show fuck this show fuck this show

I expected it couldn't end so perfectly, but my god, that was the most brutal thing I've ever witnessed. Initially, you see Oberyn, a character who by now you've probably fallen in love with, completely confident and fearless. During the fight, he's so skilled, so graceful, but with the Mountain getting some solid hits in. Throughout, he is increasingly emotional, uttering a rhythmic chorus of "Confess, you killed my sister..."more and more powerfully. You're on his side. You're with him. You're moved by him. When it seems he's on the verge of winning, practically that he's already won, you're prepared to post "FUCK YES!" in the NeoGAF GoT thread. It's so exciting. You're lifted up so high.

And then that? Fucking that? No mercy. One strong punch by the Mountain, and suddenly the roller coaster begins to dip, only to fall into fucking hell. Who wanted Oberyn to lose? But even more, who wanted to see him in so much fucking pain, dying such a horrifying death, hearing those last words from the Mountain as he was so fucking helpless?

Fuck you, Tywin. I can't wait to watch all you horrifying bastards die. And no, you're not taking Tyrion with you. Fuck no. That can't be happening.

God, and I was enjoying this episode so much. Thanks, Sansa and Littlefinger, you certainly tried to make this an episode that wouldn't end with me slightly shakily typing up a heartbroken rant on NeoGAF.

GoT is depression porn. unlike other fantasy that makes us feel better by being an escape. this series makes real life feel better by showing that our world isnt as fucked up as theirs.
 

Moaradin

Member
It'll be some LOST level bullshit if the next episode takes place entirely at the Wall and we don't see King's Landing again until the finale. The central storyline of S2 was building toward Blackwater, so dedicating a whole episode to it made sense. I love the Wall story this season but it's isn't the primary arc of the show.

Yeah but the wildlings attacking the Wall has been built up for ages now. I could see them focusing most of the episode on that.
 
I highly doubt it. That dude is built ford tough, that and i doubt hed be that feared if he could be dispatched so easily.

I don't know. He got stabbed twice, no? In the gut and then what looked like the neck/chest. Not sure he could survive that with their limited medical technology. It always struck me as the actor they hired was sort of meant for a one time type deal, which would make sense that they'd just hire the biggest mother fucker they could find even if he didn't necessarily look/act the part if all they were going to use him for was for a fighting scene.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
GoT is depression porn. unlike other fantasy that makes us feel better by being an escape. this series makes real life feel better by showing that our world isnt as fucked up as theirs.
Once again the wire laughs at this assumption
 
I think Ramsay has potential to be a fun character if they let him do stuff now outside of torturing Reek. I kinda like him :lol. Another one is Ser Jorah, I hope he gets to do something interesting in Westeros now that he is free from the Queen Bore.

And I must be the only one that was happy the Mountain won the duel. I fear for Tyrion but Oberyn had it coming. If Tyrion goes the list of interesting characters are really dwindling. I was kind of sad to see Joffrey go and if Tyrion goes too...
A person that likes Ramsay also liked Oberyn dying (edit:AND also liked Joffrey). Why isn't anyone surprised? Some crazy sadomasochists in here.
 

Talents

Banned
I KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN! As soon as Oebryn started talking while the mountain was down I knew it would end badly! GOD DAMMIT!
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I don't know. He got stabbed twice, no? In the gut and then what looked like the neck/chest. Not sure he could survive that with their limited medical technology. It always struck me as the actor they hired was sort of meant for a one time type deal, which would make sense that they'd just hire the biggest mother fucker they could find even if he didn't necessarily look/act the part if all they were going to use him for was for a fighting scene.

I feel it would be a waste to lose the mountain after all that. Especially with the hound out there. There could be a lot done with him. Also just thought of the foreshadowing with the hound and arya about styles of fighting in connection with this last episode
 
A person that likes Ramsay also liked Oberyn dying (edit:AND also liked Joffrey). Why isn't anyone surprised? Some crazy sadomasochists in here.

I like some of the assholes and Oberyn was a total showoff right from the beginning of the duel. Bronn would have won that shit.

Ramsay is hilarious but he needs to actually do stuff outside of all the torturing. Joffrey was one of my favourite TV ''villains''. You love to hate him.

Rooting only for the good guys in a show like this is not good for you ya know ;)
 

Zeppu

Member
The moment Oberyn took the spear out of his chest to elicit the confession I knew he was dead. My eyes were constantly on the floor checking if the sword was still within the Mountain's hands. Didn't expect him to finish him off barehanded.

Pretty stupid of Oberyn tbh. He put a sword through someone's wrist for singing rains of castamere in a whorehouse and he didn't think of making sure the Mountain was incapacitated properly. Did he really think he'd get a confession just by yelling at him?

Oh well, he got what he deserved for being cocky.
 
I feel it would be a waste to lose the mountain after all that. Especially with the hound out there. There could be a lot done with him. Also just thought of the foreshadowing with the hound and arya about styles of fighting in connection with this last episode

I don't know. This show never takes the easy or should I say obvious way out. It makes sense, if we were talking about a more traditional movie or show, to have the Hound and Mountain meet in an epic showdown between brothers....but most likely The Hound will die of some wound infection and the Mountain is already dead. That seems to be more how GoT works lol
 
Pretty stupid of Oberyn tbh. He put a sword through someone's wrist for singing rains of castamere in a whorehouse and he didn't think of making sure the Mountain was incapacitated properly. Did he really think he'd get a confession just by yelling at him?

Making characters suddenly do super dumb stuff is an easy way to kill em tho.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
I like some of the assholes and Oberyn was a total showoff right from the beginning of the duel. Bronn would have won that shit.

Ramsay is hilarious but he needs to actually do stuff outside of all the torturing. Joffrey was one of my favourite TV ''villains''. You love to hate him.

Rooting only for the good guys in a show like this is not good for you ya know ;)

I kinda agree with you. Joffrey was a great character because his actor just nailed it. Dany is a character that you're supposed to like but is so poorly acted that I'm just bored with her. Hate to see oberyn go out like that but it was obvious he was going to die when he started doing flips and showing off.
 

StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I just remembered that Cersei's children are in Dorne. I'm thinking the Mountain's confession might cost the Lannisters.
 
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