Wait, what kind of pie was it.
Hot pie
Wait, what kind of pie was it.
Finally, Tywin has stated endlessly that what matters most is his family name and legacy. Joffrey was a shit king and hard to control, but I'm sure he doesn't want people to think that the Lannisters can just be murdered like anyone else, either.
Joffery was a Baratheon.
yea the shot of the pie was meant to show there were dead doves inside itI'm thinkin' it was the pie, and the granny / newqueen (I'm bad with names) both knew about it. The shot on the pie was menacing (maybe it was just showing he killed a dove with his strike?) When Margery was talking ill about Joffrey to granny, she told her to keep face, etc.
The way she immediately fed him the pie seemed to imply it too heavily.
yea, old king lady ain't playing gamesIt was obviously the Tyrell grandma
Lannisters made damn sure to pretty much make people forget about the Baratheon heritage of Joffrey. After all, he is always referred to as 'Joffrey of the houses Lannister and Baratheon'
how many episodes will be wasted trying to figure out who poisoned him? just seems that everything moves so slowly (targaryen's arrival, white walkers, battle at castle black)
It was obviously the Tyrell grandma
Why would she? Now they have no power.
I'm assuming Sansa had no idea what was going on but her necklace was used to smuggle the poison in with Olenna using the drunk guy who gave the necklace to Sansa as the patsy just in case something goes wrong as he's easily expendable and not seen as trustworthy or worth a damn to the rest of King's Landing.. Sansa adds a layer of plausible deniability to the assassination while possibly being beneficial to the responsible party.
Maybe Olenna thought Joffrey was too crazy and didn't want to risk her granddaughter, her family's best asset at the moment, by marrying her to an unpredictable nutjob. You might be able to manipulate him often, but one slip-up is bad news with Joffrey.
She might also use this as a way to secure even more power, possibly marrying Margaery off to Tommen (he seems older now) which would make them seem even more respectable while being with a much more level-headed king.
It's how I see it because I don't think anyone else would pull this off and have Tyrion as the perfect fall-guy like that and Olenna did spend some time with Sansa and their scenes together once again seem like foreshadowing. I just wonder if anyone else is involved.
Oberyn doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would do this as he much rather do it himself in a more violent manner. The only other people I could think of that would do something like this are Varys and Littlefinger and we haven't seen or heard from the latter in quite some time. He did really care for Catelyn and want Sansa to come with him at one point right? And now Sansa is fleeing with the drunkard? Who knows...
To me, Olenna is definitely involved in some way. Her motives just aren't 100% certain.
Fuck. I love this show.
Anyone have that gif of the group of black dudes where the one jumps into the others' arms after (I assume) spittin some hot fire? It's hard to describe that gif.
Awesome episode. Finally!
So.. who will be the new king?
Awesome episode. Finally!
So.. who will be the new king?
Exactly what he deserved.Well, that was anticlimactic.
Yes! New episode day. Must not read this thread .
I'm ready for tits and horses
Why would she? Now they have no power.
They didn't consummate the marriage, so probably not.Huh? Her Granddaughter is officially now the Queen.
Emotion is clouding her judgement.
Tyrion is definitely going to take the fall for this...
Would their father allow Tyrion do be executed though? He may like Tyrion but executing him would make their family look bad. Also Jamie doesn't seem to be on bad terms with Tyrion and may try to stop Cersei at having Tyrion sentence to death because there's no real proof that it was Tyrion. At this point it's just Cersei blaming the person she hates the most.
Awesome ending.
Feels good not knowing what's going to happen. Unlike the wedding that I had spoiled last season.
I say it was the grandma that did it. Along with the fool guy.
Didn't spot the necklace thing but it explains why he told her to go with him. Good stuff.
I guess that's why in the season trailers Tyrion was in chains.
Script was incredible tonight. I loved the bitchiness of the whole thing, the passive agressive hatred.
This show is now the biggest game of Cluedo the world has ever seen.
I love the camera work and editing as well. EVERYONE COULD HAVE DONE IT!!!
Anyone have that gif of the group of black dudes where the one jumps into the others' arms after (I assume) spittin some hot fire? It's hard to describe that gif.
Exactly what he deserved.
He looked like a scared child as he choked on his own bile.
I'm sure a lot of things were happening. It was more a figure of speech.Oh, I don't think he choked to death on his bile. He was bleeding out his pores and hemorrhaging everywhere.
If anything, he choked to death on his own blood, but more likely his heart just gave out. But it certainly wasn't a painless death.