SkylineRKR
Member
talk about backfire lmao.
Cersei herself has committed many sins ofcourse. But some good acting from her again.
Cersei herself has committed many sins ofcourse. But some good acting from her again.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 5 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
- Thread starter Steelyuhas
- Start date
- Status
Don't be so quick to judge the scene, you don't know what will happen in the next episodes. Maybe there is going to be a point to this "poison & boobs" scene later.
Didn't we see the faith militant turning over merchant tables in that one scene?
Sure, they're merchants. But most merchants weren't exactly rich back then.
And what happened in the rest of the season? Things happening is not what makes Game of Thrones good. From day 1 the show has been about the characters.
Of course.
But if the faith militant's only support is the poor and frail that lack combat training, and literally every higher class in the city wants them gone because they were slighted by the faith militant, then I don't see them building up much of an effective uprising.
We've only recently been introduced to the Faith Militant, though, we can't be too sure of just how much damage they've done prior to this season.
Great episode, things are finally popping off left and right! Interesting to see how this season has a different flow than the previous ones. Those always had build ups to a big event, then they would throttle down to show the effects of said event, only to eventually build op again to another big event. This season is more of a constant climb with more and more things happening every episode. Very interested to see where this is all going! Some random thoughts:
-Will be interesting to see how Tommen reacts now that he has 0 people left to advise him. Wouldn't be surprised if he actually started to....you know.... FINALLY DO SOMETHING!
- Even after recent events, Sansa is still trying to influence Ramsey to turn against his dad. She is not very successful yet, but that will come..... I hope.
- I don't think the boy that littlefinger mentions was Cersei's nephew. My guess? Gendry is finally done rowing and allies himself with littlefinger! That would give littlefinger and the Tyrells a huge ace up their sleeves.
- No idea why that one sand snake decided do spare Bronn. I am happy she did, but still...hopefully this will be explained better later.
-Will be interesting to see how Tommen reacts now that he has 0 people left to advise him. Wouldn't be surprised if he actually started to....you know.... FINALLY DO SOMETHING!
- Even after recent events, Sansa is still trying to influence Ramsey to turn against his dad. She is not very successful yet, but that will come..... I hope.
- I don't think the boy that littlefinger mentions was Cersei's nephew. My guess? Gendry is finally done rowing and allies himself with littlefinger! That would give littlefinger and the Tyrells a huge ace up their sleeves.
- No idea why that one sand snake decided do spare Bronn. I am happy she did, but still...hopefully this will be explained better later.
There doesn't need to be an uprising. The Faith Militant can defend themselves if attacked on the orders of the king, and if they fear they are losing a battle for control of the Sept they can bring out the king's wife and mother and threaten to execute them if the king does not call off his troops.
I think he was talking about Cersei's cousin with benefits turned religious fundamentalist Lancel.
I think he was talking about Cersei's cousin with benefits turned religious fundamentalist Lancel.
Season 1 uncovered a plot to murder the king, work to hide his true heirs and replace them with products of incest, the arrival of a threat unseen in centuries, the return of dragons, the ascendance of Dany, Robb's crowning as king of the north, and the clash of several great families and within them.
Season 2 saw the north in open rebellion, Stannis v Renly, Stannis v Lannister/Joffrey, Jon meets the wildlings, Theon seizing Winterfell, Arya v Tywin and Jaqen, and Daenerys finding, being welcomed, and turning the tables on Qarth and the necromancers.
Power shifted so much in those seasons and the characters were better written and steadily growing.
If you think those seasons were the weak ones, well, we really want Game of Thrones to be about entirely different things.
the_firewithin
Member
So king pussy now has no mom, no piece, and no small Council. Yah he won't last
Characters whose arcs are almost all at a complete standstill thus far this season, as I've gone over before.
So in your mind, it didn't serve a purpose because it was resolved in the same scene? How do you know it's (dismissed) resolved? How do you know it ends there? How do you even know if the cure is permanent? Too many times in Game of Thrones, a subtle scene becomes an big deal later on.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Ugh, such an amazing conclusion to last night's episode but I'm feeling conflicted. Cersei is DONE. But, Lena Headey is my favorite actress on the show (she's the reason I tuned in and gave GoT a chance) so I don't want season 5 to be her last, it's such a joy to watch her as the Queen Regent ;_;
Also, where is Bran Stark again? I can't even remember the last time we saw him and Hodor & co. Was he even in season 4? Will we be seeing Bran again?
Also, where is Bran Stark again? I can't even remember the last time we saw him and Hodor & co. Was he even in season 4? Will we be seeing Bran again?
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Season 6 will probably see the return of the Hodobran Power Duo.
It's cute that you think she hasn't hit bottom yet. She will lose both children and I bet
the loss will occur while they are still alive. Tommen will disown her after the truth of his ancestry is revealed and Mycella marries with the Dornish prince.
Get rekt, Cersei.
And people were complaining about fantasy elements creeping in when Tywin was a prophet
SkylineRKR
Member
Didn't Cersei get a naked scene this season?
I wonder if she has to walk through KL?
I wonder if she has to walk through KL?
SkylineRKR
Member
I think its desperation, and the fact she never thought of being in jeopardy herself one day. She is shocked and surprised when someone doesn't let her through, she still screams she's the queen right now.
Even though she did crazy stuff she obviously thought she would be above the law. She's right there when the Tyrells get punished for things than she did way worse.
Meh, Cersei has always had narrow ambitions and shortsightedness. She was married to the king for years and only managed to become an alcoholic and sleep with her brother. Everything else has focused on short term hurting Tyrion or protecting her children. She pulls no punches when she schemes, but she has never had much of a plan or foresight. Tywin read her correctly.
She finally is able to hold the reins and she mangles it. No surprise.
Nameless
Member
Yeah on rewatch S2 always stands out as my favorite season. It's extremely rich in lore, politics, and overall character & world building. This season has similar strengths, which is no doubt why I'm enjoying it so much. Don't get me wrong , I like 'Holy Shit' moments as much as the next guy, and this show does them like no other, but all the things that give those big events weight & gravity is where Thrones truly shines.
It seems the problems stem from the 2 books this season is about. Book readers complained about this period being a slosh as well. If this season really is based on 2 books I can't imagine how tedious it was.
A Serious Man
Member
Cersei is dumb. It's not a coincidence that the Lannister house falls apart two seconds after Tywin dies. She's far too arrogant to have ever thought the Sparrows would come for her.
spootime
Member
As a book reader, most of the problems this season come from things that arent even in the books.
I know we aren't suppose to discuss book spoilers and such but AFOC and ADWD weren't as good as the previous 3 books. If anything the show has benefited greatly from combining them.
Oh Ramsay that lovable bastard. He's such a trollolol.
I'm pretty sure they're blowing him up only because it's GoT and now that Joffrey is gone, they think we need a new focal point for our ire. Ergo show him doing all those psychopathic things, including the rape of Sansa and the flaying of her would be rescuer.
But the actor is great at it. And the character is more charismatic and eviller than Joffrey - who was basically a two-bit incest thug made into a bully-boy king. He's a thrones player Ramsay is - albeit not one that will get a throne, but certainly a far better character than the cardboard cutout that was Joffrey.
I mean, Cersei would be fine as the big bad, but they had to take her out - so in the mean time, given that Game of thrones always needs some sort of conflict character for the bleakness feel, Ramsay is going to be the prince of darkness for a bit - at least until we get some other character to play it up as the focal point of ire.
I'm pretty sure they're blowing him up only because it's GoT and now that Joffrey is gone, they think we need a new focal point for our ire. Ergo show him doing all those psychopathic things, including the rape of Sansa and the flaying of her would be rescuer.
But the actor is great at it. And the character is more charismatic and eviller than Joffrey - who was basically a two-bit incest thug made into a bully-boy king. He's a thrones player Ramsay is - albeit not one that will get a throne, but certainly a far better character than the cardboard cutout that was Joffrey.
I mean, Cersei would be fine as the big bad, but they had to take her out - so in the mean time, given that Game of thrones always needs some sort of conflict character for the bleakness feel, Ramsay is going to be the prince of darkness for a bit - at least until we get some other character to play it up as the focal point of ire.
I think it was just really messed up flirting. They might be setting up a relationship there.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Yes. The girl is cute, but that fight scene was awful.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I'm finding a strange phenomenon.
It seems this episode was the best on of the season by all accounts, but what was different in comparison to the others?
No, it's not the writing or the locations, its the nudity! Nudity is the key to an amazing episode! There can be no doubt, this connection is solid.
It seems this episode was the best on of the season by all accounts, but what was different in comparison to the others?
No, it's not the writing or the locations, its the nudity! Nudity is the key to an amazing episode! There can be no doubt, this connection is solid.
vpance
Member
The Snakes are from a Xena universe crossover, lol.
Far from it. Don't forget the old gods weren't too happy with Catlyn for their transgressions but they still protect house Stark as best as they can do giving them direwolves and superpowers.
Those gods were usurped by the southern 7 kingdom gods that the high sparrow believes in. But unlike the old gods or the red god we have never seen anything that alludes to the southern gods being real.
This feels like an arch about faith and lies. I wonder what they High Sparrow will do if his faith laid bare is just theater for the masses and he is given proof the power of real divine beings playing their own game of thrones.
Seems the 'analysis' of this season has been equally as reductive... (Yes, I'm referring to the Sansa controversy).
I mean it's obvious he won't or at least he won't have any success trying to solve the situation.
Tommen is a way too good person not only for the position of a king but also for the entire Game Of Thrones world. Way too young, inexperienced, naive: the exact person that won't survive in that world.
blitzcloud
Banned
When you have so much dirty laundry, you can't go and expose others dirty socks. Get rekt Cersei.
higgsboson1997
Member
I know a lot happened in Season 1. That's not the reason why I think it's weak, I just felt that a lot of exposition was fitted in in a very clunky manner. The show is much more sophisticated at it now.
Also, the same number of events you listed for season 2 can be listed for season 5. Stannis prepares for a fight with Roose Bolton. Barristan ends up dead, with Danaerys having a long awaited interaction with a major character. Jorah contacts Greyscale, Jon is made Lord Commander, executes a prior Lord, then starts a rift between the Night's Watchmen and himself by siding with the wildlings. Also, a very important decision is that the wildlings are finally going to be shifted south of the wall. Things are building up to a head in Winterfell with the Boltons, Stannis, Brienne, Sansa and Littlefinger all headed to the same location. Cersei, Margaery and Loras are all imprisoned by the high sparrow. Really, a lot has happened this season; it's just that there hasn't been any one outright brilliant, which will probably come in spades from next episode onwards. Also, it's worth remembering that Season 3 also really only had three really good episodes until episode 8 of the season (and it even had a very sub-par finale). This season has also had three great ones (Kill the Boy, High Sparrow, and The Gift), and will likely have a spectacular finale from the way they are hyping it up.
IAmRandom31
Banned
This is one of the most depressing posts I've ever read because it is actually serious.
" a lot has happened this season "
kill me now
This show used to be so incredible.
QFT, All they had to do was follow the book and the season would have been 100x better.
Besides Tyene in the last episode, there's nothing memorable about this season.
Would it stop you from complaining about peoples opinions?
Seriously, if that's depressing, be happy you apparently don't browse OT often.
Aesius
Member
Does anyone else have a strong desire to rewatch the entire series after this season is over?
I feel like I've missed on a lot of subtle references and it's getting worse as the show continues. I've forgotten so many things that happened earlier in the series that I feel like a full rewatch would be beneficial, especially heading into season 6.
I feel like I've missed on a lot of subtle references and it's getting worse as the show continues. I've forgotten so many things that happened earlier in the series that I feel like a full rewatch would be beneficial, especially heading into season 6.
AuthenticM
Member
Stop complaining about people's opinions.
Y'all should probably take that book discussion to the other thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1024609&page=196
I usually do a full re-watch before a new season begins.
AuthenticM
Member
IAmRandom31
Banned
90% of what happens on a forum like this is someone offers up an opinion and then you have people jumping in to " complain " about the opinion offered.
The kill me now thing was sheer sarcasm, absolutely astounding people get so offended so fast around here.
Anyway, this is a season defined by the complete absence of actual " happenings ". To read an " opinion " about this season having a lot happening, and being better then Season 1 no less, was rather shocking.
But ... to each their own.
Sounds like you want to complain about those peoples opinions.
- Status