After tonight's episode, how can anyone say King Stannis won't be a worthy King of the 7 Kingdoms of Westeros? I cried like a baby watching that scene between him and his daughter. You can see he still feels guilty for her condition. Folks need to wise up and bend the knee to the one true king. The son of the Andals, the rightful claim to the throne...King Stannis.
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Wait, what happened to Gendry? Is he still in Dragonstone?
gigantor21
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Davos freed him before Stannis could burn him. We haven't seen him since he rowed away from Dragonstone.
lastplayed
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Well, let's see.
-As you said, yes Ned's whole personality leads credence to the theory. Ned isn't the type of guy to have an affair. To me this is the biggest flag. He is the type of guy that would claim to be the father to save the life of his sister's child though, even if it meant a hit to his honor.
-Littlefinger's talk today shows how much Rheagar liked Lyanna .
-Barriston's talk put some insight into the type of guy Rheagar was. Along with his infatuation with Lyanna, doesn't sound like the type of guy that'd kidnap and rape her.
-Robert Baratheon is a very stubborn guy, could easily see him coming up with his own narrative to justify war against Rheagar for stealing his girl.
-Lyanna was buried at Winterfell, not just because that's where she belongs but she never loved Robert in the first place. She would not want to be buried beside him.
This series will so end with Jon surviving dragon fire and/or commanding the dragons. That or martin/writers will do a Uturn because so many people predicted it.
So you're saying that this is sort of setting up Tommen to die?
Where would he get confirmation? Is he investigating off camera?
That's right.Every time there's a scene of someone rowing, I still think it's Gendry.
Okay.
Robert would have the boy killed if he knew it was Rheagars, Ned would lied on purpose to save the boy's life.
Every time there's a scene of someone rowing, I still think it's Gendry.
As long as he has been rowing, he could have hit Braavos by now.
I'm with you on the first three points but not the last. She never married Robert, right? So why would she be buried anywhere near him? She was an unmarried woman, Winterfell was her rightful resting place.
And how do we know she had a baby and when or that it's Jon? Could be anyone. Maybe some soldier came up to Ned and was like 'Ned this is your sister's baby, like, for reals,' and Ned murmered 'Honour...' and just accepted the kid. It could be anyone's.
Did she even have enough time between being kidnapped and the Rebellion to have a kid? We don't really know any of this stuff. The one thing that would make me believe it was the juxtaposition of two scenes about Rhaegar in the same episode where Melly starts to get hot for Jon. Tells you that he's something special, because Melly knows all sorts of secret shit.
ComputerBlue
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Jon and Dany are Luke and Leia.
The most prominent member of the Sparrows after the High Sparrow is the cousin that Cersei fucked.
I see no reason that the High Sparrow won't believe such a devout follower if he spills the details on Cersei.
IAmRandom31
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I think he would be a just king. He would be 50x better then the shit Lannisters who have been in power up to this point. The Iron Bank calls in 10% of its debt and the KINGDOM OF WESTEROS can't even pay half of that and will have to borrow more to pay off the debt. Sounds familiar .....
Anyway. Stannis would be a worthy King yes. My only pause is how close he is with the red witch. There is just something that is off about her, besides the whole giving birth to assassin shadows thing. She is incredibly sexy though I will give her that, goodness
Robert asks Ned why they buried her at Winterfell, he obviously wanted her buried with him or at King's Landing. Robert was friendzoned man.
As for the timeline, well it was enough time for Ned to claim to have fathered a son during the War... so it'd of been enough time for Rhaegar and Lyanna to have a child.
Valid point.
No way in hell Cersei's plans wont blow up in her face horrendously. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT. She alienates and antagonizes probably the wealthiest family in Westeros and legitimizes what is basically Westeros' Al-Qaeda. Margery and Grandma Olenna Will definitely plot against her... Olenna matched Tywin in cleverness! The Sparrows are a ticking time bomb in her hands. They are puritans... She didn't stop to think that perhaps that common knowledge about her, her brother, and her children might not fly so well with them? It's just a matter of time before they've run out of other targets.
She will be the direct cause of the death of her remaining kids.
RIP, Ser Baristan. He went out like a legend though. Better than having the Lanisters do some underhanded shit like they did to the Starks.
Now I shall see if my prediction is right or wrong. Will dragon mom lose some dragons?
She will be the direct cause of the death of her remaining kids.
RIP, Ser Baristan.
He went out like a legend though. Better than having the Lanisters do some underhanded shit like they did to the Starks.Now I shall see if my prediction is right or wrong. Will dragon mom lose some dragons?
That debt will be meaningless because of the fact......Winter is Coming..
I hate to admit it, but Cersei Dun Goof'D Up Dis Time.
lol, you climate change denier! (It does seem this season has forgotten about that....so far)
liliththepale
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The White Walkers saw that Sam has obsidian and decided to cancel Winter.
BlackGhost
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Lmao
ComputerBlue
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I'm patient when it comes to the wait, but what annoys me is how long it's been since they showed a bunch of white walkers marching past Sam as if they were nearly there.
IAmRandom31
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No way in hell Cersei's plans wont blow up in her face horrendously. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT. She alienates and antagonizes probably the wealthiest family in Westeros and legitimizes what is basically Westeros' Al-Qaeda. Margery and Grandma Olenna Will definitely plot against her... Olenna matched Tywin in cleverness! The Sparrows are a ticking time bomb in her hands. They are puritans... She didn't stop to think that perhaps that common knowledge about her, her brother, and her children might not fly so well with them? It's just a matter of time before they've run out of other targets.
She will be the direct cause of the death of her remaining kids.
RIP, Ser Baristan.
Now I shall see if my prediction is right or wrong. Will dragon mom lose some dragons?
Fighting some random rabble with daggers and losing is " going out like a legend? "
Legends die in Wars or during battles of meaning. He did neither. He died to a bunch of slavers with daggers and no armor on. Yeh It took a lot of them but why not just slide into a corner and start slicing ankles at anyone who comes forward? Legend.
I'm pissed about Barristan. Dude was supposed to be one of if not the greatest swordsman who lived and he goes out like that?
He told fully armored knights of the kings guard he could cut through all eight of them like carving a cake. Then gets killed by that group.
And that was the first time we got to see him fight!!! AUGH
the_firewithin
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Yeah he had to know in the back if his head he may get found out about his time with cersei
Hehe.
BlackGhost
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I honestly just think that Sansa has falling for Peter. I've felt like this since the end of last season though
Cersie is plotting like crazy. First she sends of the Tyrell to some place else under the ruse of Bravos. Then she has captured Loras. She is obviously trying to stick it to Tyrells at this point. It is gonna blow up in her face when the sparrows go crazy and kill her and Tommen. Poor Jamie will be left all alone to raise Myrcella. Also Littlefinger going back to king's landing is not going to end well for him.
Long con. She learned from the best.
liliththepale
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That's Stockholm syndrome if I ever saw it.
I don't think she knows that Ned struck a deal with Littlefinger.
I pray to the 7 Gods: The Old and The New, this leads to a Sophie Turner nude scene. I would cry tears of joy..if this was to happen.
lastplayed
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What does the Iron Bank do if Westeros doesn't pay its debts?
I forget if this has been mentioned.
I forget if this has been mentioned.
Nope. She's fucked on all angles and doesn't know it yet.
IAmRandom31
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Him answering Cersei is a very odd thing to me. I mean .... He is responsible for Sansa going missing in the first place. You have to think it is going to get out that Sansa Stark is alive and well and was with Littlefinger at some point. The Boltons did have an allegiance with the a Lannisters so you have to think the Lannisters have eyes in Winterfell.
So it would be downright idiotic for them not to put 2 and 2 together. Fuck Littlefinger though for what he did to Eddard Stark. Jealous prick. But yeah I doubt he is able to leave Kings Landing again.
At least he wasn't assassinated while breaking bread or betrayed in some way. He went out fighting against overwhelming numbers for the sake of a queen he believed in, WITH NO ARMOR, and no one came out alive... Save for comrade Grey Worm who owes his life to him and will surely speak of his valor in combat.
I kind of recall her getting mad at him not helping her father and Littlefinger explaining that they would have killed him too if he tried to help. I don't think she knows that he said he was going to help Ned and then betrayed him. It has been a while so I might be mixing things up.
I was just thinking about this earlier. Where the hell is winter, already? They set up such a feeling of forboding about it in earlier seasons.
Winterfang
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Melisandre. Stannis is looking to be a worthy king but meli(hottest character in the show, I'm so glad for boobs)sander is clearly evil
Seasons last a long long time.
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