• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Gamers Nexus - The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility

Brigandier

Member
Who cares you don't repeat the same tests on each benchmark. It doesn't matter.
Hardware channels got stale because hardware is kinda boring recently, so they have to fight.

GN is a great channel but he is so anal and his reviews are so stupidly overcomplicated. Who fkn cares about flatness of cpu and that crap.
He treats this stuff with more seriousness than presidents run their country. chill man, it's just stupid pc parts.
I understand results have to be accurate but running benchmark is what it is... He makes it sound so overcomplicated because that's his life

How dare he take his job of reviewing and giving honest and fair opinions on very expensive products that people in the same hobby might buy very seriously.....

It might just be computer parts to you but many people want in depth information and many viewers of GN definitely want his "anal stupidly overcomplicated depth" as you put it.

But that aside you clearly didn't watch the video, he says that Forspoken is shit half way in the video.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
How dare he take his job of reviewing and giving honest and fair opinions on very expensive products that people in the same hobby might buy very seriously.....

It might just be computer parts to you but many people want in depth information and many viewers of GN definitely want his "anal stupidly overcomplicated depth" as you put it.

But that aside you clearly didn't watch the video, he says that Forspoken is shit half way in the video.
but sir. This is wendy's
(yeah I still watched the video).. I don't get why you are so mean. I agree so whats the big deal.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Semi-related, I made and sent this shirt to DF, and Rich has worn it in a few DF Directs.

3xvz7Mf.jpg
 
Last edited:

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
do you work for LTT or something? If you don't care then why are you posting in this thread? Your posts are bizarre.
are you reading my comments or someone else?
Do I really have to write "ltt is trash" in every post?
We are on the same page. I just find it a bit funny how big this drama is getting.
 

Haint

Member
Foolish to reject the offer of 100mil to cash out. I've seen him talk about it a few times and you can tell it weighs on him. He made a huge bet when he could've rode off into the sunset.

LOL, he's already a deca-millionaire at minimum. Guy earns monthly dividend payments from his asset manager that would embarrass 95% of people's annual salary. I promise you nothing is weighing on him, his kids, grandkids, and great grandkids are set for life.
 
Last edited:

danklord

Gold Member
I've had a feeling for years that something isn't right the glorified home shopping network channel that is LTT. There's something about Linus that screams low pay and long hours.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
I used to watch LTT once in a while after I’d exhausted all the other stuff I wanted to watch and I just wanted something dumb to put me to sleep.
 

lmimmfn

Member
LTT a few years ago became 100% interested in adverts rather than content and i unsubscribed at that time, it's an sbsolute POS joke of a channel.
I'm glad we have Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed.

Jazz no sense is another channel that's become a POS channel, at keast it was mildly funny in the past, now its trying to be serious when noone could take their content seriously.

This is sll the result of the YouTube algorithm, increasing subscribers fir subtier channels with shit expressive facial thumbnails.

Roll on the end of shit tier youtube channels!!!!!
 

ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
Another day, another drama between two YouTubers. They are both insufferable from time to time and I guess anyone could dig out the same amount of stuff (especially testing errors and moot deals) on GN given the proper focus. That's how media works.

Shame that given the field, we won't have 'clips not mags' moment out of this story.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
JayzTwoCents responded in the comments:

"Steve and crew, I waited to watch this video until after finishing my creative for the day so I could go into it with a clear open mind. As someone who has made many many mistakes and honestly am working hard to limit them as much as possible have to say that I genuinely appreciated your attention to detail regarding examples and the insight not only from your perspective and expertise but the insight presented in various clips from LMG... but also your offering of advice on how to be a better reviewer overall. As someone who simply cannot provide the level of detail that you do it gives me something to constantly strive for. I sincerely hope that LMG doesnt take this as an attack but a real eye opener on a broader problem they may not be as evident from their end. As the Walmart Greeter to the tech world, Im glad you are managing the Service Department!"
 
Last edited:

Puscifer

Member
Foolish to reject the offer of 100mil to cash out. I've seen him talk about it a few times and you can tell it weighs on him. He made a huge bet when he could've rode off into the sunset.
He likely already makes more than 100 million, I worked for a fiber optics company in the Bay area and the CEO basically said he could've walked away several times but the long term is better for him financially and offering fiber Internet all over California (they're rolling out 10gbps for 40 bucks)

Why take 100 million now when you can make more later? Buyouts exist to get the CEO out, nothing more.
 

Kumomeme

Member
i never watch Linus for genuine correct fact. i watch other channel or other website for that. i just watch for fun about how product is looks and like before jump to another video on youtube.

tech tips GIF


it seems they acknowledge their flaw which is, good. hope they improving. been watching this guy for atleast decade.
 
Last edited:

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!


How can you not be entertained by this guy!

Response seems fair. I’ll keep watching, Linus and his team are far more entertaining than most tech YouTubers. I’ll watch the other channels when I looking for insight on a product, I’ll watch LTT for things I don’t care about just for fun.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
This video is going to have a million views by the end of the night lol. It's already at 959K.

edit: just hit 1M
 
Last edited:
Why did that dude in the warehouse say anything, I would fire him on the spot.

Only an extreme incompetent person would say something like this.

Accountability only goes up, never down. The guy is a nerd engineer he's not a pr person.

It is responsibility of the higher ups to hire the right people for the right jobs, if you put a pr guy to do engineering things he will definitely shit the bed as well.

Blindly blaming people bellow your pay grade and calling for layoffs the type of thing that only an extreme incompetent manager would do.
 
Last edited:

Celcius

°Temp. member
I'm reading through the thread on his forum and it feels like he keeps ignoring the core issue and keeps talking about investing and spending more money on his lab.
 
Last edited:

Pegasus Actual

Gold Member
LTT=Techertainment Trash. Same for that JayzTwoCents guy. I haven't watched much of this beloved GamerJesus but I'll probably watch this video for a few laughs.
 

HTK

Banned
I watch all these guys so I’m kinda glad they are somewhat keeping each other in check, it’s good for the overall community. I hope they just don’t get too personal about it and keep it professional.
 

peish

Member
Jayz2cents clickbait incoming

oh my! two insufferable douchebags having at it.
dramaaa! just misses alex bagusta somehow, quick someone involve df

make that 3 youtubers douche

can't stand gn holier than thou attitude when they themselves fubar their own sensationalized videos

the recent asus am5 vsoc bit?
well it's tech peesus measuring incorrectly.
asus clarified but peesus did not revised their video accusations.





how about tech peesus also putting down another youtubers igor about pcie5 power connector?

turns out igor findings are valid too. Intel and Nvidia are changing the physical connectors.

no corrections from nexass too



 

octiny

Banned
make that 3 youtubers douche

can't stand gn holier than thou attitude when they themselves fubar their own sensationalized videos

the recent asus am5 vsoc bit?
well it's tech peesus measuring incorrectly.
asus clarified but peesus did not revised their video accusations.





how about tech peesus also putting down another youtubers igor about pcie5 power connector?

turns out igor findings are valid too. Intel and Nvidia are changing the physical connectors.

no corrections from nexass too





Pretty much sums my thoughts about GN.

The fact that GN said they spent months on this video (seriously?) & still never went to LTT/Linus for a statement regarding the prototype/auction situation speaks volumes in itself. That literally goes against basic investigative journalism.

GN was great in it's beginning but you can already see the cracks forming in their try hard attempts to stay relevant against automation (labs).

Igor is one of the few trusted people I follow in this landscape, so its infuriating when someone (GN) preaches ethics yet doesn't follow the same advice. I got no time for hypocrites, especially when it's on a ethical basis. Also, Hardware Unboxed is another I lost trust in when they blatantly recommended the PG27AQDM when it had HUGE HDR color issues which still haven't been corrected despite multiple firmware updates (all over reddit). They turned a blind eye after being called out for their original review.

I digress though. All YT'ers have their faults, but I'm more inclined to keep watching the ones (for pure entertainment purposes) who acknowledge their faults instead of those who put others on ethic pedestals yet don't hold themselves to the same accountability & standards they preach (GN & HUB).
 
Last edited:

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
I don’t watch LTT much anymore. Maybe if there is a video with some crazy experiment or some shit but even those are a mess now. That recent USB one was a mess.

If I want to see benchmarks on something (when a new CPU/GPU is out) I’ll also watch them but it seems you can’t put too much trust in them. If I’m looking for benchmarks then I go around LTT, HardwareUnboxed, GN, Jayz, etc. honestly, unless LTT sorts this shit out I’ll be dropping them.

I’ve always like GamersNexus but putting out a video like that makes me respect them more. Good on them highlighting it and risking their own ass.

While I’m not a big fan of LTT I do hope they turn this around. I don’t think GN is attacking them but just providing some friendly thoughts and advice.
 
Top Bottom