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[balls of snow]

He tried doing it all new but realised there is no way to fit a wifi chip into the budget. Hillarious.
Also was watching during my reverse unboxing of the fatass ps5. Goodbye titania, a new model is in the house and she is pro-fect.

 

[SHA]

Linus hates consoles and it bothers him, I don't care.

 

[SweetTooth]

This just highlights how amazing PS5Pro value.

 

[bundylove]

I actually dont mind these videos.
Its good entertainment and also bit informative.
There is bias but i dont think their intent is to downplay the pro rather challenge themselves how close they can get in what way.

His voice could be a bit softer though. I am covered in noise all day so when hear him i get anxiety

 

[Shakka43]

Idiotic video 3 years ago. Idiotic video Pro 3 years later.

 

[kevboard]

Have you tried adding up the costs? PC parts are more expensive in Europe just as how PS5 Pro is more expensive. I don’t think it’s possible.

I did in fact yeah.

a PS5 Pro + Disc Drive is 920€.
and you can get a PC with a Ryzen 5600, 16GB of RAM and an RTX4070 for roughly that price. prices fluctuate obviously, so depending on the week you look it's between 910€ and 940€. if you're ok with a 1TB drive you'll be at around 870€.
you could also replace the 5600 with a 3600 and still be at least on par with the PS5's CPU and save 40€ for that part, landing below 900€ as well.


so in short,
it you want to pass the PS5 Pro comfortably it's around 920€ give or take 10€,
if you are ok with 1TB storage then makes that minus ~50€,
if you are ok with a CPU that's only a tiny bit faster than the Pro's it's another 40~50€ less.

then of course long term you'll save money because playing online is free. one year of PS+ is 75€.
PS5 + 12M PS+ = 875€ + Disc Drive = 995€

it's arguable if a disc drive is fair to add to the price. but IMO it is almost essential to have for many as many people have disc games they want to continue to play, even if it's just PS4 games. on PC that's not the case as 99% of the owned games people have there will be digital, on Stram, GoG, Epic, Uplay etc.

 

[bundylove]

Eh, I wouldn't, this place has had a bone to pick with Xbox since it's inception because it was made by Micro$oft, as the kids used to write it back in the day. I don't disagree with their current strategies and I wish they did better with the IP they own. But people and press slam them all the time and this place is a Sony echo chamber. You can't make a single Xbox thread without it getting immediately derailed with perpetual edgy drive-by shit posts.

Pfff i give you one better.
Got shit on for saying the pro is not ready or worth a buy for another 4 to 6 months till devs actually use it to its fullest.
I am a sony fan mind you and even i start to find it a bit too much.
Now i will probably be banned for telling him my mind.

 

[Crayon]

It's perfectly okay for a competitive PC to cost a few hundred bucks more. Everyone's trying to limbo under the $700 and it's stretching at best. Dumpster diving t worst.

 

[Thebonehead]

This place has turned into such a Playstation circle jerk recently!

 

[Thebonehead]

His voice could be a bit softer though. I am covered in noise all day so when hear him i get anxiety

His pitch and tone are like a fork scratching a plate.

Never been able to watch his channel because of that alone.

 

[RickSanchez]

Used parts again. moron.

Just be honest and make a comparable console with the actual inflated fucking costs of PC parts. But no, cant insult daddy jensen and lisa kudrow so he'd rather embarrass himself on youtube all over again.

lol, i'm out of the loop here. What does Lisa Kudrow have to do with this ?

 

[bundylove]

lol, i'm out of the loop here. What does Lisa Kudrow have to do with this ?

She's got nice boobs

 

[Jibran#one]

Used parts ?lmao
I mean next they will be standing Infront of a pc store with a gun and rob someone and say look we made the same pc in less than the price of a console

 

[Codeblew]

I did in fact yeah.

a PS5 Pro + Disc Drive is 920€.
and you can get a PC with a Ryzen 5600, 16GB of RAM and an RTX4070 for roughly that price. prices fluctuate obviously, so depending on the week you look it's between 910€ and 940€. if you're ok with a 1TB drive you'll be at around 870€.
you could also replace the 5600 with a 3600 and still be at least on par with the PS5's CPU and save 40€ for that part, landing below 900€ as well.


so in short,
it you want to pass the PS5 Pro comfortably it's around 920€ give or take 10€,
if you are ok with 1TB storage then makes that minus ~50€,
if you are ok with a CPU that's only a tiny bit faster than the Pro's it's another 40~50€ less.

then of course long term you'll save money because playing online is free. one year of PS+ is 75€.
PS5 + 12M PS+ = 875€ + Disc Drive = 995€

it's arguable if a disc drive is fair to add to the price. but IMO it is almost essential to have for many as many people have disc games they want to continue to play, even if it's just PS4 games. on PC that's not the case as 99% of the owned games people have there will be digital, on Stram, GoG, Epic, Uplay etc.

Why are you adding the cost of a disc drive when comparing to PC price?

 

[kevboard]

Why are you adding the cost of a disc drive when comparing to PC price?

because 80+% of PS5s sold are disc versions. and that's for a reason. a disc drive on a PS5 is a must for most of its users.
while it's entirely irrelevant on PC

 

[Codeblew]

because 80+% of PS5s sold are disc versions. and that's for a reason. a disc drive on a PS5 is a mist for most of its users.
while it's entirely irrelevant on PC

Yeah and 95% of PC gamers use steam (digital only). Please compare apples to apples.

 

[Rentahamster]

The video sounds very tongue in cheek and Linus praises the PS5 Pro a lot in it. I don't think it warrants offense.

 

[kevboard]

Yeah and 95% of PC gamers use steam (digital only). Please compare apples to apples.

I am. I am comparing what a PS5 Pro a typical console user would want costs compared to a PC that is more powerful.

the PC I built there has a severely more powerful CPU inside as well, but I feel like a PC user would want to have a bit of headroom there for other tasks other than gaming.

 

[Topher]

Pfff i give you one better.
Got shit on for saying the pro is not ready or worth a buy for another 4 to 6 months till devs actually use it to its fullest.
I am a sony fan mind you and even i start to find it a bit too much.
Now i will probably be banned for telling him my mind.

Why would you get banned for what plenty of others have said here?

 

[bender]

Why would you get banned for what plenty of others have said here?

Because he scored five touchdowns in one game.

 

[Spukc]

Isn’t that dude cancelled?

 

[Skifi28]

Isn’t that dude cancelled?

Someone should tell him.

 

[bundylove]

Why would you get banned for what plenty of others have said here?

Got some negative comments about my response from other users and me being on my finale leg,..just a hunch

 

[bundylove]

Isn’t that dude cancelled?

cancelled? Nah nah the world needs a lot of bundy's.
Or at least a lot of women i would hope

 

[Topher]

Got some negative comments about my response from other users and me being on my finale leg,..just a hunch

lol.....if users decided if others would be banned this place would half as many folks as it does.

 

[bender]

lol.....if users decided if others would be banned this place would half as many folks as it does.

I report you twice a day.

 

[Topher]

I report you twice a day.

 

[SweetTooth]

Edit: I quoted the wrong reply

 

[bender]

 

[pasterpl]

What’s the point of all of these comparisons? It is obvious that if you add couple hundred dollars to 700-1000 build you will get machine much more capable than ps5pro, not mentioning 3000-5000 builds that eat ps5pro for breakfast. At its price ps5pro is good value if you are happy with limited experiences vs mid-top line PC builds.

 

[dreamstation]

This bloke has and always will be a clown. No idea how people like that get so many followers and hits. Doesn't take long to know if someone is a ridgy didge and this guy is most certainly not.

 

[SweetTooth]

What’s the point of all of these comparisons? It is obvious that if you add couple hundred dollars to 700-1000 build you will get machine much more capable than ps5pro, not mentioning 3000-5000 builds that eat ps5pro for breakfast. At its price ps5pro is good value if you are happy with limited experiences vs mid-top line PC builds.

Said same guy who thinks 45% performance uplift is negligible.

now magically 3% uplift is much more capable

 

[ahtlas7]

Make the peasant killer pc.

 

[pasterpl]

Said same guy who thinks 45% performance uplift is negligible.

now magically 3% uplift is much more capable

Uplift % is relative, 100% uplift can be negligible as well if you base/starting point is low. Don’t forget it is up to 45% uplift, from what we are seeing is more in line with 30% reported - regardless for the price bump we are being asked to pay it seems moderate.

Regardless, I can play most of games on my pc with ultra settings, 60+ fps and decent native resolution (then DLSS kicks in), some with path tracing, Haven’t you noticed that most of these pc vs ps5pro video comparison mention that they had to adjust pc settings down to match ps5pro IQ?

 

[Fess]

I did in fact yeah.

a PS5 Pro + Disc Drive is 920€.
and you can get a PC with a Ryzen 5600, 16GB of RAM and an RTX4070 for roughly that price. prices fluctuate obviously, so depending on the week you look it's between 910€ and 940€. if you're ok with a 1TB drive you'll be at around 870€.
you could also replace the 5600 with a 3600 and still be at least on par with the PS5's CPU and save 40€ for that part, landing below 900€ as well.


so in short,
it you want to pass the PS5 Pro comfortably it's around 920€ give or take 10€,
if you are ok with 1TB storage then makes that minus ~50€,
if you are ok with a CPU that's only a tiny bit faster than the Pro's it's another 40~50€ less.

then of course long term you'll save money because playing online is free. one year of PS+ is 75€.
PS5 + 12M PS+ = 875€ + Disc Drive = 995€

it's arguable if a disc drive is fair to add to the price. but IMO it is almost essential to have for many as many people have disc games they want to continue to play, even if it's just PS4 games. on PC that's not the case as 99% of the owned games people have there will be digital, on Stram, GoG, Epic, Uplay etc.

And that’s the complete build with case, cooler, fans, PSU etc?

Either way I don’t see these cheap PC builds making anyone happy coming from consoles. I suspect it’s going to be loud and ugly and the potential increase in framerates or visuals will be minor or not even there depending on the dev and port quality. I see PC gaming in general as an expensive highend gaming solution for enthusiasts that just don’t care much about the cost and simply want the best there is. If building a cheap PC is the only alternative I would rather choose a console.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

And that’s the complete build with case, cooler, fans, PSU etc?

Either way I don’t see these cheap PC builds making anyone happy coming from consoles. I suspect it’s going to be loud and ugly and the potential increase in framerates or visuals will be minor or not even there depending on the dev and port quality. I see PC gaming in general as an expensive highend gaming solution for enthusiasts that just don’t care much about the cost and simply want the best there is. If building a cheap PC is the only alternative I would rather choose a console.

And these cheap PCs do not include WiFi 7 either. In my case, that makes a significant difference with twitch shooters. Pro is also whisper quiet for me, and I doubt these cheap PCs are.

 

[Stooky]

They built a $535 system with $350 of it being a 7800XT. They had more than enough money to buy a 3080, 4070, or better, which would have ended the video at like 2 or 3 minutes and completely mooted the 10 minutes of PSSR comparisons. The PC with DLSS would have won across the board on frame rate, image quality, and RT effects. The dumbest most disingenuous video they've ever done by far.

What's more, anyone considering paying $780 + tax for a Playstation has disposable income and a flexible budget within reason. There's really no need to build a used system when you can presently buy brand new pre-built 4070 systems for just over $1000, which given the long term savings on games, free online, and extra utility, absolutely comes out ahead of Pro on dollar cost and value.

that wasn't the assignment...

 

[GHG]

What’s the point of all of these comparisons? It is obvious that if you add couple hundred dollars to 700-1000 build you will get machine much more capable than ps5pro, not mentioning 3000-5000 builds that eat ps5pro for breakfast. At its price ps5pro is good value if you are happy with limited experiences vs mid-top line PC builds.

Greenberg is that you?

It's perfectly okay for a competitive PC to cost a few hundred bucks more. Everyone's trying to limbo under the $700 and it's stretching at best. Dumpster diving t worst.

Yep, you can get a really solid build for $900-1000 which will be more powerful than the Pro.

You can even get a solid build for $700 which can serve as a great platform to get started and build upon with future upgrades, but it's not going to beat the PS5 pro in terms of capability.

What these people are doing is building the worst of both worlds - a PC with limited future upgrade paths and one which is barely equal to the PS5 pro. They are doing their audinece a disservice and they don't even realise it.

 

[Boss Mog]

So, how many used parts does it have this time?

 

[stevish]

I must be one of the few people who actually watched the video here.. it's very tongue in cheek, both machines are fine depending on your situation and what you care about... what are people complaining about exactly?

 

[DenchDeckard]

This place has turned into such a Playstation circle jerk recently!

Oh baby what is you doing.gif

 

[duck_sauce]

Considering that Linus is doing all of this for views and clicks, I’d say he’s been extremely successful. He even managed to trigger Gaf enough to get his video its own dedicated thread.

Nice work Gaf, keep the Linus hype alive!

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

I did in fact yeah.

a PS5 Pro + Disc Drive is 920€.
and you can get a PC with a Ryzen 5600, 16GB of RAM and an RTX4070 for roughly that price. prices fluctuate obviously, so depending on the week you look it's between 910€ and 940€. if you're ok with a 1TB drive you'll be at around 870€.
you could also replace the 5600 with a 3600 and still be at least on par with the PS5's CPU and save 40€ for that part, landing below 900€ as well.


so in short,
it you want to pass the PS5 Pro comfortably it's around 920€ give or take 10€,
if you are ok with 1TB storage then makes that minus ~50€,
if you are ok with a CPU that's only a tiny bit faster than the Pro's it's another 40~50€ less.

then of course long term you'll save money because playing online is free. one year of PS+ is 75€.
PS5 + 12M PS+ = 875€ + Disc Drive = 995€

it's arguable if a disc drive is fair to add to the price. but IMO it is almost essential to have for many as many people have disc games they want to continue to play, even if it's just PS4 games. on PC that's not the case as 99% of the owned games people have there will be digital, on Stram, GoG, Epic, Uplay etc.

Let's compare apples to apples tho. Physical media on PC is dead (to the point where almost all PC cases don't include optical media bays at all), so drive shouldn't be included from the get-go. PC is adorably all-digital for decade and a half now.

But lets add a few additional things to the mix: onboard wifi 7/bt 5.1, price of the contorller alone or at least most popular mouse/mechanical keyboard and controller, OS key (not some sketchy key but a proper Win 11 Home MSRP), cooling with the same wattage and noise footprint and, of course, let's try to fit all this into a box of roughly the similar size. And why stop there, let's compare both machines in, say, No Man's Sky VR because PS5 Pro is perfectly VR-capable. But that will diminish the whole 'used PC' value proposition fairly quickly.

Every PC channel right now is basically trying to humiliate a brand-new family van because their engine in a used heavy-duty pickup has more HP for the same price. There's a lot of nuance and added cost considerations lost here. LTT as usual is trying to pass cost as value and that's not how that works with consumer electronics.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Why not just build an honest comparison and say this costs 1200 dollars and gives me the best parts possible that is on par or comparable, or even exceeds the ps5 pro for a healthy amount and then do an educational piece around what that money enables. Upgradability, benefits of a pc outside of purely just gaming and yeah...how you could drop a new gpu in at ps6 launch that exceeds that consoles performance. I would respect that more, but i guess it doesn't get the clicks to try and educate someone.

 

[Topher]

Yep, you can get a really solid build for $900-1000 which will be more powerful than the Pro.

You can even get a solid build for $700 which can serve as a great platform to get started and build upon with future upgrades, but it's not going to beat the PS5 pro in terms of capability.

What these people are doing is building the worst of both worlds - a PC with limited future upgrade paths and one which is barely equal to the PS5 pro. They are doing their audinece a disservice and they don't even realise it.

Exactly. These "build a console killer" videos should be subtitled "how not to build a gaming PC". Damn well may have convinced more than a few that a gaming PC isn't worth all the hassle with crap videos like these. "All this angst......or buy a console". Ultimately self-defeating either way.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

3000-5000 builds that eat ps5pro for breakfast.

Uh, yeah... I own one and it has destroyed every console out there. That's what you get for spending over 3x the amount.

 

[Topher]

What's more, anyone considering paying $780 + tax for a Playstation has disposable income and a flexible budget within reason. There's really no need to build a used system when you can presently buy brand new pre-built 4070 systems for just over $1000, which given the long term savings on games, free online, and extra utility, absolutely comes out ahead of Pro on dollar cost and value.

Folks better check out the reviews before buying something like that. Missing keyboard and mouse. Single channel RAM. Cheap PSU. PCIe 3.0. No USB-C

That PC is cheap for a reason.

 

[Mr Moose]

because 80+% of PS5s sold are disc versions. and that's for a reason. a disc drive on a PS5 is a must for most of its users.
while it's entirely irrelevant on PC

100% of Pros are digital. Add a Blu-Ray drive to PC cost.

 

[RPSleon]

This place has turned into such a Playstation circle jerk recently!

Ive been here a while, the lean to one or another allegiance has pretty much always been the same.

 

[RoadHazard]

I don’t like to shit on consoles on this board too much because a lot of people don’t really have a choice. Building a new PC is intimidating especially if you know next to nothing about it and are living from paycheck to paycheck. it’s easier to just buy a console and let things fall in place.

And some of us do have a choice and do know quite a bit about it, but still choose console. That seems impossible for a lot of PC people to understand.