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[Dr. Wilkinson]

Pretty obvious Ninty wants those that care about oled to double dip or suffer FOMO for the next 2 -3 years.

I don't think comments like these are considering all of the factors. If** it was even feasible to mass produce an OLED panel that could do 120Hz for the Switch 2 launch, it would be prohibitively expensive. We'd be looking at $549 Switch 2 OLED for sure. Why launch a successor to a $300 mass market product for $550? The dual SKU with or without Mario Kart is plenty for now.

As it is, they're likely to be unable to meet the demand for months. And they've produced three times more Switch 2s than they produced for the Switch launch. All against the backdrop of very different worldwide economy than the one they launched in in March 2017, and at $200 more than they launched at 8 years ago.

The armchair quarterbacking making it sound like OLED is somehow something we're all immediately owed is honestly ridiculous.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

As is always my question with attitudes like this:

Compared to what? Compared to OG Switch? This is the successor to Switch. Not the newest entry in highest-end hobbyist handheld PC market.

The graphics "aren't that good"? Compared to what? Because compared to Switch it's a clearly definable generational leap, there's no question about that. And same with the screen.

Go back to your OG Switch and tell me the Switch 2 screen isn't a clearly definable generational leap. C'mon. Compare apples to apples, and keep expectations where they should be. Grounded in logical comparisons and reality.

 

[clarky]

Nintendo fanboy's copium levels are at max. The screen is garbage, how can you even look at that and with a straight face say iT looKs fInE t0 mE. Because it looks nowhere near fine, it's terrible. Going from OLED to this is like living in a luxury villa with a pool and then move out to live a small leaky tent near a garbage incineration plant.

Been playing all day. Doesn't look fine, it looks great.

Not as good as oled obviously but at no point did I think this screen looks like shit.

 

[Radical_3d]

Your S95C has better panel than those mini leds (or even rgb mini leds) you mentioned...

Nah. OLED will never catch up in nits and mini LEDS are already there in black levels for the untrained eye. Colour luminance with RGB LEDs will be just out of this world.

And I have configured my tv to have 2.100 nits.

 

[Bojji]

I don't think comments like these are considering all of the factors. If** it was even feasible to mass produce an OLED panel that could do 120Hz for the Switch 2 launch, it would be prohibitively expensive. We'd be looking at $549 Switch 2 OLED for sure. Why launch a successor to a $300 mass market product for $550? The dual SKU with or without Mario Kart is plenty for now.

As it is, they're likely to be unable to meet the demand for months. And they've produced three times more Switch 2s than they produced for the Switch launch. All against the backdrop of very different worldwide economy than the one they launched in in March 2017, and at $200 more than they launched at 8 years ago.

The armchair quarterbacking making it sound like OLED is somehow something we're all immediately owed is honestly ridiculous.

179$ phone - one of MANY cheap phones with OLED (Motorola Edge):

Nah. OLED will never catch up in nits and mini LEDS are already there in black levels for the untrained eye. Colour luminance with RGB LEDs will be just out of this world.

And I have configured my tv to have 2.100 nits.

More nits =/= better picture. Brightness is one of many factors of good image quality.

 

[clarky]

Nah. OLED will never catch up in nits and mini LEDS are already there in black levels for the untrained eye. Colour luminance with RGB LEDs will be just out of this world.

And I have configured my tv to have 2.100 nits.

Ive had a couple of mini led screens recently and they are super bright no doubt but OLED still wins out overall for me.

 

[Scrawnton]

As is always my question with attitudes like this:

Compared to what? Compared to OG Switch? This is the successor to Switch. Not the newest entry in highest-end hobbyist handheld PC market.

The graphics "aren't that good"? Compared to what? Because compared to Switch it's a clearly definable generational leap, there's no question about that. And same with the screen.

Go back to your OG Switch and tell me the Switch 2 screen isn't a clearly definable generational leap. C'mon. Compare apples to apples, and keep expectations where they should be. Grounded in logical comparisons and reality.

People keep looking at Switch 2 like it's competing with pc handhelds, cell phones, and high end consoles and PCs. Switch 1 has a crap screen and crap tech and it still is going to become the best console ever sold and has some of the best software sales for games.

Switch 2 is a product that was meant to be a generational leap for Switch 1. It is not meant to get people to throw away their PS5s or to convert them to being Nintendo fans. It's a massive uplift in tech for the 155+mil people who bought Switch 1.

The screen on Switch 1 destroys the screen on OG Switch and Lite. It's not as good as the OLED screen but at this point in time it is what it is and it's not going to take away from people's enjoyment. I recon a majority of the trolls in here have no desire in Switch 2 and probably never owned switch 1.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

179$ phone - one of MANY cheap phones with OLED (Motorola Edge):

More nits =/= better picture. Brightness is one of many factors of good image quality.

See, this is whole problem: you're comparing a dedicated video game handheld to a cell phone. It's honestly not even worth discussing. What use/ value is there in comparing dedicated video game handhelds to cell phones?

$179 for what? $179 subsidized by wireless companies? With an 9" OLED panel? With 12 GB of RAM? With detachable magnetic controllers?

Like, what are we comparing to what here? It's just nonsensical.

That's the problem.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

This is giving me flashbacks to the "capacitive multi-touch screens are too expensive" arguments in the early Wii U days.

Here's to 3 generations of sub-standard screen tech!

 

[tr1p1ex]

All nonsense. Screen looks great.

 

[simpatico]

Is this guy OK? It's a Nintendo man, not a reference studio monitor. He's doing it wrong. You're supposed to play silly cartoon games on it and have a good time passing it around with the wife and kids. If he wants to go measure black levels and talk about nits, get a PC or a PS5 Pro. There are better tools for the job.

 

[MiguelItUp]

All of this just sounds like people love being negative, upset, and pessimistic. Lol. It genuinely sounds like people that bought a Switch 2 are happy about it. While those that didn't/don't care to aren't happy about it.

I feel like everything that was leading up to the Switch 2 has told us and shown us what to expect. I'm really not sure why this guy acts like he was expecting a whole lot more that was never part of the plan.

I still plan on waiting to get mine, but from everything I've seen it looks to be expected. Which isn't a bad thing at all.

 

[Bojji]

See, this is whole problem: you're comparing a dedicated video game handheld to a cell phone. It's honestly not even worth discussing. What use/ value is there in comparing dedicated video game handhelds to cell phones?

$179 for what? $179 subsidized by wireless companies? With an 9" OLED panel? With 12 GB of RAM? With detachable magnetic controllers?

Like, what are we comparing to what here? It's just nonsensical.

That's the problem.

Nothing in Switch 2 is cutting edge. There are MILLIONS of OLED screens being made each year, they are not that expensive...

Is this guy OK? It's a Nintendo man, not a reference studio monitor. He's doing it wrong. You're supposed to play silly cartoon games on it and have a good time passing it around with the wife and kids. If he wants to go measure black levels and talk about nits, get a PC or a PS5 Pro. There are better tools for the job.

So Nintendo gets free pass for low quality?

 

[Horseganador]

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Is this guy OK? It's a Nintendo man, not a reference studio monitor. He's doing it wrong. You're supposed to play silly cartoon games on it and have a good time passing it around with the wife and kids. If he wants to go measure black levels and talk about nits, get a PC or a PS5 Pro. There are better tools for the job.

This is the problem with randos on YouTube replacing actual media. You get these completely standardless/made-up parameters for how things should be according to nothing. It's mind numbing. And sad.

 

[Flabagast]

seems more vivid and with better contrats on the SWOLED, but it also depends on the picture quality

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Nothing in Switch 2 is cutting edge. There are MILLIONS of OLED screens being made each year, they are not that expensive...





So Nintendo gets free pass for low quality?

The Switch OLED model retails for $50 higher than the OG Switch. No model has ever received a price cut. And it's been publicly confirmed by Nintendo that they make a smaller profit margin on the OLED model than they do on the OG Switch.

So how you manage to reconcile that is something that needs to be grappled with.

Also you are still proceeding with the false premise of comparing a cell phone to a dedicated video game handheld. Which, as mentioned above, is completely useless and accomplishes nothing.

 

[Schmendrick]

You get these completely standardless/made-up parameters for how things should be according to nothing.

Holy shit... It can't get any more stupid than this.....
This is standard screen calibration tech and there absolutely are general standards/goals for the metrics involved,

 

[Lokaum D+]

Gamingteck?? ahaha

said the guy that posted this

 

[Bojji]

seems more vivid and with better contrats on the SWOLED, but it also depends on the picture quality

OLED will always look better.

The Switch OLED model retails for $50 higher than the OG Switch. No model has ever received a price cut. And it's been publicly confirmed by Nintendo that they make a smaller profit margin on the OLED model than they do on the OG Switch.

So how you manage to reconcile that is something that needs to be grappled with.

Also you are still proceeding with the false premise of comparing a cell phone to a dedicated video game handheld. Which, as mentioned above, is completely useless and accomplishes nothing.

OLED costed them few $ more but they charged +100$ for it. Nintendo are kings in making profit, I bet they could have released S2 OLED for the same price and still make some money on it.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Was Hades upgraded to make use of Switch 2? If not what is this photograph supposed to show?

Also this looks like Switch OLED on the bottom. Which side by side would run counter to the argument that the Switch 2 screen is "trash".

 

[Salz01]

This now saddens me… good job.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

OLED will always look better.



OLED costed them few $ more but they charged +100$ for it. Nintendo are kings in making profit, I bet they could have released S2 OLED for the same price and still make some money on it.

What you're saying about the margins of the hardware isn't accurate. I don't really know what else to say. Never argue with someone on a gaming forum, I guess?

 

[Lokaum D+]

Was Hades upgraded to make use of Switch 2? If not what is this photograph supposed to show?

that LCD screens are trash

 

[simpatico]

So Nintendo gets free pass for low quality?

I don't compare them to home theater gear or gaming hardware for graphics hobbyists. I mean you can, and they'd do very poorly in that competition, but Valve and Sony wouldn't do well with my Aunt either. Maybe even worse than Nintendo does with the home theater nerds.

 

[Bojji]

Was Hades upgraded to make use of Switch 2? If not what is this photograph supposed to show?

Are you for real? LCD will look like shit compared to OLED - ALWAYS. They won't patch in better contrast, lol.

Adding to my last response. Sony released PS Vita in 2011 for 249$, this was the time when OLED was actually expensive tech. Now it's cheap...

 

[GigaBowser]

said the guy that posted this

whhhat? he was right ahaha

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Was Hades upgraded to make use of Switch 2? If not what is this photograph supposed to show?

Uhhhh, I think it's supposed to show how the same image looks on Switch vs Switch 2.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Uhhhh, I think it's supposed to show how the same image looks on Switch vs Switch 2.

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Are you for real? LCD will look like shit compared to OLED - ALWAYS. They won't patch in better contrast, lol.

Adding to my last response. Sony released PS Vita in 2011 for 249$, this was the time when OLED was actually expensive tech. Now it's cheap...

Not the same screen, not the same resolution, not the same dimensions…etc, etc, etc?? Now we're doing comparisons to ancient handheld hardware from 2011?
How does that help your stance?

 

[Bojji]

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

1080p would not make it look better when it comes to contrast and colors.

Not the same screen, not the same resolution, not the same dimensions…etc, etc, etc?? Now we're doing comparisons to ancient handheld hardware from 2011?
How does that help your stance?

Hendheld hardware, this is what you were talking about, no? Game consoles and not phones.

PS VIta in 2011 was cutting edge, OLED tech was expensive too and yet they released it for 250 bucks...

Now OLED is cheap and S2 is not cutting edge hardware (chipset from 2020).

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

Dude nobody here is talking about resolution. It's about the colors/contrast/black levels.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

that LCD screens are trash

But the Switch on the bottom is OLED…??

 

[Schmendrick]

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

 

[Lokaum D+]

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

man, Nintendo shills are something else

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

man, Nintendo shills are something else

Can't make any coherent argument so resorts to insults. Classy!

 

[Lokaum D+]

Can't make any coherent argument so resorts to insults. Classy!

i m the one who cant be coherent ???

 

[Guardian Monkey]

It would be a 1080p image if it was upgraded to take advantage of Switch 2. Instead of 720p stretched to fill a larger panel.

Also the Switch on the bottom is OLED model. Which makes the comparison to Switch 2 appear favorable, not unfavorable.

Light bleed in that picture shows a fairly large contrast. Anyhow, this should not be a surprise, it being a edge lit screen has been known for about a month at least.

 

[GigaBowser]

hatters advertize for switch 2 help make best launch dermand all times i will get all the games thank you my friends

 

[Zuzu]

It sounds like it's doing something like HDR 400 which is the lowest form of HDR I believe

 

[balls of snow]

I don't think comments like these are considering all of the factors. If** it was even feasible to mass produce an OLED panel that could do 120Hz for the Switch 2 launch, it would be prohibitively expensive. We'd be looking at $549 Switch 2 OLED for sure. Why launch a successor to a $300 mass market product for $550? The dual SKU with or without Mario Kart is plenty for now.

As it is, they're likely to be unable to meet the demand for months. And they've produced three times more Switch 2s than they produced for the Switch launch. All against the backdrop of very different worldwide economy than the one they launched in in March 2017, and at $200 more than they launched at 8 years ago.

The armchair quarterbacking making it sound like OLED is somehow something we're all immediately owed is honestly ridiculous.

Lol wasnt one of the rumor that one of the component supplier was already prepping an oled screen for the revision. Nintendo loves money. Full stop. To the detriment of their fanbase. But please go bat for dear Nintendo.

And I just ordered a Switch 2 last night, which I will promptly sell the moment an oled revision is in my hands.

 

[manfestival]

this is perfect. gonna buy 2 now and 3 after the oled one releases

 

[John Wick]

OLED should've been there at launch. They purposely held it back so that they could sell people an OLED refresh later.

You forget this is Nintendo. They love to make their fanbase pay over the odds for dated hardware. They then bum them up the arse with refreshes of said hardware. First the better battery life and slight improvements Switch 2 will drop. Then the handheld only model. Then the Oled to give new life to flagging sales. But the funny thing is the Nintendo fanboys love this treatment and encourage and support it.

 

[John Wick]

Oliver got his


Can't wait

6 hours? What a clown. Available all over in retail shops.

 

[LordOcidax]

I don't think it's possible to accurately capture screen differences in an off-screen photo. For a start that photo isn't taken head on and LCD is known to appear different from an angle.

I tried taking a photo showing 1) the yellow cast of the OLED and 2) the brightness advantage of the Switch 2.

Neither showed up in the photo and they ended up looking similar...

Don't ruin their party Is the only thing they have, meanwhile the people that actually have the console are praising the screen, obviously is not the black levels of the Oled, but it's really good.

 

[John Wick]

I don't think comments like these are considering all of the factors. If** it was even feasible to mass produce an OLED panel that could do 120Hz for the Switch 2 launch, it would be prohibitively expensive. We'd be looking at $549 Switch 2 OLED for sure. Why launch a successor to a $300 mass market product for $550? The dual SKU with or without Mario Kart is plenty for now.

As it is, they're likely to be unable to meet the demand for months. And they've produced three times more Switch 2s than they produced for the Switch launch. All against the backdrop of very different worldwide economy than the one they launched in in March 2017, and at $200 more than they launched at 8 years ago.

The armchair quarterbacking making it sound like OLED is somehow something we're all immediately owed is honestly ridiculous.

Yes Nintendo customers are owed an Oled screen. Why should customers go through three revisions before getting a quality display?
Phones are providing Oled screens with HDR and 120hz. Why would it be prohibitively expensive? You need to stop shilling for greedy corporations like Nintendo who nickel and dime their loyal customers barring the fanboys who enjoy it.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Pretty much. Plus you should consider that mobile cameras are not great at capturing pentile oleds in general, so real difference in contrast and color volume is even more apparent.

 

[Sonik]

Currently the only "competition" in a handheld form factor at a similar price is the regular Steam Deck. The Steam Deck OLED is $100 more expensive.

It makes a lot more sense to criticise Nintendo for the cost of the ecosystem than it does to criticise them for the cost of the base hardware.

Steam Deck cost 400 dollars 3.5 years ago when it was released with almost the same power as the Switch 2 has now, half a generation later

 

[Zathalus]

Steam Deck cost 400 dollars 3.5 years ago when it was released with almost the same power as the Switch 2 has now, half a generation later

It also had significantly slower and smaller storage (the $400 unit had 64GB eMMC storage), a much worse screen, worse battery life, no dock, no detachable controllers, and worse performance.

The 256 GB model, which had actual usable NVMe storage launched at $529 and is $399 today, so a $50 premium over that for the Switch 2 hardware (better screen, performance, dock, etc) doesn't seem excessive.

The price is decent for what you get. The ROG Ally X has a very similar screen quality (although only 7 inches) and is twice the price at $900. Although it has better battery life, faster processor, and more storage. Certainly not better value at twice the price though.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Don't ruin their party Is the only thing they have, meanwhile the people that actually have the console are praising the screen, obviously is not the black levels of the Oled, but it's really good.

No, some of us do not have to protect the honour of Nintendo . You see it as soon as you boot it… for some games that do have strong highlights and lots of contrasts and strong shadows (think even a classical RE: Rebirth) the main thing keeping people from playing it on the old OLED might be rendering resolution but then again many games do not get a resolution boost for free and would be sub 720p —> 1080p upscaled to boot.

It is better than Switch 1's screen but you are minimising the differences with the OLED screen they shipped before.
The kickstand while not as bad as Switch 1 is another downgrade as it feels a lot easier to brake or bend as you try to use it.

It makes you wonder why their marketing material almost never compares or puts the Switch 2 against Switch OLED, it is always new model vs oldest revision from 8 years ago.

Come on.:.