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[DeepEnigma]

Nice. I played through the PS4 version with English dub because of the bad Japanese lip-syncing, so this is good to hear when I play the DLC.

Going to start my DLC run for the first time on the PS5 version as well, since I platted it on the PS4 but did not play the DLC yet. Japanese voice over with subs this go round.

Ghost of Tsushima Dev Explains Why Japanese Lip Sync Is a PS5 Exclusive Feature in Director's Cut

It's all about the SSD

www.pushsquare.com

 

[MrA]

Oh thats hit, interest up 500%

 

[Fbh]

Probably not the best idea if they want it to succeed in the USA. You guys are so used to most entertainment being in your native language that I doubt people will be too excited about an american production where they have to read substitles for the whole movie

The game devs said all this crap too and they never followed through on it. Kurosawa mode looked like shit, and everyone spoke american.

The Ps5 has a proper japanese mode (with correct lip sync so it does't look like a dub). It's just a shame you need a $500 console and a $19.99 upgrade to enjoy it.

What's the alternative choice for the cast? English and native Americans?

I guess other non Japanese asian actors.
Like Andrew Koji from the TV show Warrior who is half Japanese half half British but plays a Chinese immigrant

 

[ReBurn]

Just cast Tom Cruise in the lead. He's already been in a sword movie.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

The amount of good Korean movies is insane. Plenty of good movies from all over the world.

Some people are missing out.

Not only korean, but there's so many local european movies that are great.

I know people in America (in general) watched Squid Game (Korean) and Dark (Germany) dubbed in english but i just...don't get it.

I thought that since this was a videogame forum there would be a lot of anime fans, so i'd click this topic and everyone would love this approach...which is why i was disappointed when i started reading the replies but oh well...

 

[Robb]

Sounds too good to be true.

I’d have expected actors representing every part of the world, a couple of gay/bi couples with adopted children and the protagonist to be called they/them. But maybe they’re saving that for the Netflix adaptation.

 

[Doom85]

Disagree. I think people are lot more receptable given that your example is from over 15 years ago. I would be curious to see the data on Squid Games on dubbed vs subbed. I would garner more people watched it subbed.

Netflix’s Dark ran from 2017 to 2020. How much more of a recent example do you want?

 

[sendit]

Netflix’s Dark ran from 2017 to 2020. How much more of a recent example do you want?

Most people can't be pestered to switch what is default by region.

Netflix's binge-worthy German series 'Dark' defaults to dubbing, but you should watch it with subtitles if you can. Here's how to fix your settings.

The TV series automatically plays with English audio if you're in the US, but we recommend changing the settings to German with subtitles.

www.businessinsider.in

Given the most recent success of Squid Games defaults to Korean in the US, people didn't just turn it off. This show literally eclipsed Stranger Thing's in popularity.

 

[Flutta]

What about diversity?

 

[Fattious Floyd]

I was hoping for Elliot Paige as Jin Sakai...and perhaps Jack Black as Khotun Khan? But maybe this whole Japanese cast could work as well...I dunno....

 

[Bernardougf]

Fixed in the PS5 version.

Shit!! Didnt know that.. played with english because of bad sync reports

 

[DeepEnigma]

Shit!! Didnt know that.. played with english because of bad sync reports

Time for a replay!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

No Tom Holland?

 

[HTK]

Are we celebrating common sense now days?

The game is centered around the Japanese history, lore, and culture. No shit the movie should have Japanese cast and language, this is a no brainer but I guess we applaud common sense these days because it shows how much common sense we've lost as a society recently.

 

[p_xavier]

What about diversity?

Exactly, that's full on White Supremacy adjacent.

 

[realcool]

he's changing his name from Tom Holland to Tom Japan.

Spoiler

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

I will wait for the Netflix adaptation:

John Smith is a tourist who wanted to visit the island since he played the game, half of the movie is he visiting Japan and Akibara, but due to something strange, he times travels to the island when the Mongols invade it. Now with his game knowledge, he will fight with his sidekick "Shinji-Kun". To add variety the Mongols brought slaves from other countries (USA, UK, Africa) who will have a side story for freedom/love and will help our hero.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I will wait for the Netflix adaptation:

John Smith is a tourist who wanted to visit the island since he played the game, half of the movie is he visiting Japan and Akibara, but due to something strange, he times travels to the island when the Mongols invade it. Now with his game knowledge, he will fight with his sidekick "Shinji-Kun". To add variety the Mongols brought slaves from other countries (USA, UK, Africa) who will have a side story for freedom/love and will help our hero.

Played by Zendaya.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Whatever happens they need to get Sanada in this piece

 

[Spaceman292]

The Ps5 has a proper japanese mode (with correct lip sync so it does't look like a dub)

I didn't know that. That's really cool. Can you turn off the annoying slow mo?

 

[IDKFA]

If the film is to be as immersive and accurate as possible, then the cast can only be ethnic Japanese (and Mongolian of course), plus speak the relevant languages. No English language at all.

I know some people don't like to read subtitles, but fuck those people. Some of the best films I've ever seen have been foreign language films (Ran and Come and See are two great examples). If anybody refuses to watch a film because it's not in English then it's their loss.

 

[Fbh]

I didn't know that. That's really cool. Can you turn off the annoying slow mo?

Don't know haven't actually played it. I was waiting till I had a Ps5 to play it at 60fps and with proper Japanese lip sync.
Apparently the reason why it's only on ps5 is because on Ps5 they can do the cutscenes in real time while on ps4 they had to use pre rendered ones, so you'd have to download a ton of large pre rendered cutscenes just to change the lipsync)

 

[A.Romero]

Any kind of dubbing sucks, even the best ones. Nothing like original language.

If they want to make an historic drama based in Japan and be taken seriously, the og language is a given.

Sorry for everyone that can't handle subs, you are missing out on a lot of good shit.

 

[kiphalfton]

Sorry boomer but internet language and irl language have merged.

Defending stupidity. Wow.

 

[TheGecko]

Imagine if someone tried to make a movie set in old times and they said they wanted a 100% white cast.

Where's the pink haired abc lunatic mob?

 

[CS Lurker]

As it should be

 

[DaedalusGrim]

Not really sure how else it could be done.

 

[Trilobit]

I'm just astounded by how slowly some people must read if they can't stand subtitles.

 

[killatopak]

It's time for Americans to feel what the rest of the non-English speaking world feels.

 

[Gaelyon]

I don't speak japanese but played Ghost of Tsushima with japanese VO and french subtitles (i'm french), and it was great and it never bothered me.
When i'm seeing a movie it's always with the original language and subs, you get used to it and it's wonderful to hear the real actors and the ring of each languages. Movies like Babel or Letters from Iwo jima benefits even more having every language spoken instead of generic english.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Cool for the people who love this kind of thing, but subtitles are distracting and completely take me out of the movie/show. Makes me less likely to watch.

I'm just astounded by how slowly some people must read if they can't stand subtitles.

It has nothing to do with readspeed, even if it takes you 1/10th of a second to read each subtitle line, that's 1/10th of a second you're not focusing on the characters, or the background, or any other important things on the screen. Being able to understand what's being said by your ears instead of your eyes makes things way more interesting imo. As opposed to hearing a language you can't understand. It's only really tolerated for me when it's a language that the character(s) or the audience aren't supposed to understand

 

[Bernardougf]

Played by Zendaya.

Thats a girl whos got some good connections, she cant act (always the same anoying condescending face) , she is not beautiful (I know is subjective bla bla) ... and nevertheless became a movie star of some sort ... go figure

 

[TidusYuna]

Just cast Tom Cruise in the lead. He's already been in a sword movie.

Nope, put the sword down Tom.

 

[Lasha]

This is by far the most weeb thing to do, which will ultimately make for a less successful film. Get a Japanese director and produce it in collaboration with a Japanese studio if you feel so passionately about “keeping it real”. Otherwise this is just Avatar the last airbender: an American production masquerading as Japanese.

Plenty of Korean directors are doing great things in Hollywood. Snowpiercer was the first big one that I remember. There's no reason why an American crew couldn't make a good samurai film. Japanese cast and language is a good start.

 

[Aenima]

The amount of good Korean movies is insane. Plenty of good movies from all over the world.

Some people are missing out.

I bet some ppl here watched the american version of the Oldboy, and liked it.

 

[ViolentP]

Good.

 

[Lasha]

Not only korean, but there's so many local european movies that are great.

I know people in America (in general) watched Squid Game (Korean) and Dark (Germany) dubbed in english but i just...don't get it.

I thought that since this was a videogame forum there would be a lot of anime fans, so i'd click this topic and everyone would love this approach...which is why i was disappointed when i started reading the replies but oh well...

A preference for dubbing isn't uniquely American. Germany is huge on dubbing. Major actors have a German voice who is as well known. You always need to check if a movie is OmU or OmeU or OmU+ if you want subs. Post Soviet world is the same. My wife used to watch day 1 dubs of TV shows where a random guy does all of the characters while the original audio plays in the background. I saw Moana in Tbilisi and the entire movie was in badly dubbed Georgian except for the songs. People prefer to listen instead of read I guess.

 

[Kilau]

Subtitles distract from the movie.

I feel that way for anime, a good dub there is fine with me since it’s just another actor performing to an animation but for live action I’ll always use subtitles to hear the actual performance of the actor on screen.

 

[Thanati]

No Tom Holland?

Well, he's British.

 

[ShaquilleOatmeal]

Breaking news from Deadline:

"Tom Holland To Play Jin Sakai in Sony's Ghost of Tsushima"

 

[Apocryphon]

Well the Khan should probably be Mongolian. They could get that guy from Dr Strange, I bet he could play a good villain.


I want a dub where the words and the mouths don't match.

He played Kublai Khan in Netflix's Marco Polo. He'd be a solid choice.

 

[TLZ]

Perfect.

 

[64bitmodels]

do you also watch animes...dubbed?

Yeah. More often than not the voice acting is superior to the original a lot of time.
One of the cringiest parts of anime is how absurdly dramatic the Japanese VAs would voice the characters, it turned me off for a while because I don't like hearing overly acted grunts and ear piercingly high pitched, unrealistic girls all the time. Dubs usually have a more laid back direction to the point where I can watch them more comfortably without my face turning into a chasm.
Unless the dub is absolutely abysmal voice acting wise I never pick sub.

As for this though, since it's a movie and not anime I suspect the Japanese voice acting will actually be serious and dark and not comically exaggerated like most anime, so I appreciate this decision. It makes sense afterall

 

[Kabelly]

English, breh. Video game adaptations have struggled enough as it is, and let's face it this ain't going to be in the same league as a Kurosawa film.

They already botched Uncharted by casting Twink Holland as Nathan. All Japanese cast would be 100x better than that.

 

[Jennings]

Sure, whatever. Let Japan make whatever sort of movie they want, however they want. Same goes for any other country.

 

[Lethal01]

Yeah. More often than not the voice acting is superior to the original a lot of time.

You, are a bad person. and should feel bad, shame.

 

[OsirisBlack]

All Japanese cast (at least for the major actors, they could probably be more lenient on extras in the background). Yeah, that’s possible.

The whole cast speaking Japanese the entire film? Err…..

I remember hearing countless horror stories from theater employees when Pan’s Labyrinth released. People coming back to the ticket booth and being all, “what is this crap, we have to read the film?! Why isn’t this in English, this is America!”
”Well, sir, the film is set in Spai-“
”AMERICA!!!”

Now the film still did well in spite of these dumbass motherfuckers, but the film’s budget was pretty modest. A film like Ghost of Tsushima though will have a much bigger budget and I doubt any studio is going to be willing to make that big a financial risk.

And no, generally people have not become more open minded about subtitles since then. Netflix reported 78% of their viewers watched the series Dark dubbed versus the original German version.

Apocalypto

 

[Danjin44]

All I'm getting from this is, the movie going try very hard to be like "Kurosawa film" but fails miserably.

You can have all Japanese casts and make it black & white but without Kurosawa talent you are not making Kurosawa film.

 

[Florin4k4]

apocalypto was great so I don’t see a problem as long as the story is good

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well, he's British.

He'd be a good Mongol then...