Embearded
Member
With that logic most Nintendo games should be free for the last 15 years or so.
Hawkeye2890
Member
Tell you what. I'll quit when the ugly antifa actress that got the main role quits. How bout that?
mayham2199
Member
Bu the user score is an 8.7. Are all the user scores from woke people also?
Topher
Identifies as young
Good news. That was a one time gig. She has moved on.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I figured it would fall in the mid to high 80s range. It doesn't look like a badly made game or anything like that. I don't care about who voices characters. They did good on firing that one asshat the other week.
No "controversies" surrounding the game in my opinion. My issue is it looks like more of the same like the rest of Sony's games this generation. Last gen things felt fresh. This gen it feels like more of the same with added bloat that drags the experience down (Ragnarok, FW, etc). I'm just not feeling yet another open world game that involves sneaking into small camps with the worlds dumbest AI.
The games I mentioned before all reviewed well. But I was ready for them to end well before they ended.
No "controversies" surrounding the game in my opinion. My issue is it looks like more of the same like the rest of Sony's games this generation. Last gen things felt fresh. This gen it feels like more of the same with added bloat that drags the experience down (Ragnarok, FW, etc). I'm just not feeling yet another open world game that involves sneaking into small camps with the worlds dumbest AI.
The games I mentioned before all reviewed well. But I was ready for them to end well before they ended.
Hero_Select
Member
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The bolded happened only a handful of times over 5 years. But my main point was that it's not like people like Colin aren't heard from or review games. Those people still work in the industry and their reviews are still being counted.
How many times has it happened in the opposite political direction? The "games media" has an extremely obvious left leaning bias and they wear it with honor. It's insane to try to gaslight people to think that that hasn't been the case for years and years.
There's a reason why a vast majority of journalists post on Era and not here.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
But the Metacritic USER Score for Spiderman 2 was a 8.7, so what would you say to that?
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 user reviews
Metacritic aggregates music, game, tv, and movie reviews from the leading critics. Only Metacritic.com uses METASCORES, which let you know at a glance how each item was reviewed.
www.metacritic.com
semiconscious
Member
you realize that, until someone recently invented the catchy concept of 'mansplaining', thereby intentionally inserting sex/gender overtones, we only had 'generic' words like 'condescending' & 'patronizing'?
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viveks86
Member
Yes I realize that. But this debate on linguistics and etymology doesn't interest me. If you got the crux of what I said, as you seem to have and hence are taking this in an entirely different direction, I'm happy to concede that you have better diction and grasp of history.
Speak for yourself is all I'm saying. Enjoy your filet mignon while the rest of us settle for comfort food.
Are you mansplaning his mansplaning of your accusation of him mansplaning?
Am I now mansplaning your mansplaning of his mansplaning your accusation of him mansplaning?
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Gafapastismo1982
Neo Member
I'm glad it's a great game. I don't understand why people mix their ideologies in video games. I loved GoT and I hope I like this one too
semiconscious
Member
dude:
i've got nothing whatsoever against 'comfort food', & i'm not using it in a pejorative sense. everyone (self included) loves comfort food! not everyone enjoys the same comfort food, & no one's choice of comfort food is any better than anyone elses (because that's just a moronic/impossible concept). hell, i've gone through the original ratchet & clank trilogy, the uncharted trilogy, the arkham trilogy, the yakuza games, & all kinds of other iterative game series multiple times. & greatly enjoyed myself. my reference to yotei as comfort food was not intended as a put-down. it's an iterative sequel to an original game, which, as i said, i enjoyed. but, unlike, say ratchet & clank or uncharted, i'm not personally ready for another go-round. that's it. otoh, i can't wait to play resident evil requiem, because resident evil's one of my comfort food series...
my post wasn't intended as a put-down. you've simply misinterpreted it, because it truly wasn't my intent. sucker punch's giving fans of tsushima a sequel. i'm just obviously not as big a fan as you are, is all. enjoy your comfort food...
(btw, the infamous series is also one of my comfort food series...)
viveks86
Member
No you are missing my point. I said that as sarcasm. You have assumed this game is comfort food for everyone without even knowing the actual details of the narrative and the impact it may have on a fan. Your intention may not have been to put-down, but the premature conclusion that it is comfort food (and that all fans expect that) comes across that way. It may be comfort food for some. It may be narratively intense and thought provoking for others. We won't even know until we all play it and figure out what there is to internalize, which is subject to our own life experiences and biases.
Most condescension is not intentional when it's coming from well meaning people. Given your response now, you seem to be well meaning. But you have to be in the reader's shoes to realize what I'm trying to convey.
semiconscious
Member
Fbh
Member
To be fair though Steam reviews work more like Rotten Tomatoes, with an thumbs up/down system. Just because a game has a "Very positive" rating doesn't mean everyone thinks it's a 9/10 game.
There are games which I think are overrated that have 85-95 metascores and I think are more in the 7/10 range. But if I were reviewing them on Steam I'd still give them a thumbs up, because I still think they are good games.
viveks86
Member
Fair enough. I'll DM you a story in a short while, just so you know where I'm coming from, if that's of interest. Too personal to put it on public display.
Bojji
Gold Member
Yes. But what I meant is that you get "bonus points" for: woke, big franchise, Sony/Nintendo/MS published.
There are many examples of mid games getting high scores just because they meet some of that criteria. And yes, MS is also part of this (but they aren't treated as well as Sony and Nintendo), like
SlimySnake
mentioned - Halo Infinite never deserved such high scores. DA: V got some woke points, MH: Wilds looks like trash and yet 88 MC score...New Ip's like E33, Sword of the Sea or Blue Prince have the most "fair" scores this year. But of course all of this is just my opinion, some people got way too defensive, hahaha.
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Gambit2483
Member
NeoGAFers say the darndest things
Topher
Identifies as young
Yes. But what I meant is that you get "bonus points" for: woke, big franchise, Sony/Nintendo/MS published.
There are many examples of mid games getting high scores just because they meet some of that criteria. And yes, MS is also part of this (but they aren't treated as well as Sony and Nintendo), like
New Ip's like E33, Sword of the Sea or Blue Prince have the most "fair" scores this year. But of course all of this is just my opinion, some people got way too defensive, hahaha.
Ah....I follow. There is definitely a boost coming from the brand aligned sites out there. Possibly just some fanboy reviewers, but brand hater reviews as well possibly. Not saying that stuff isn't there. I think it gets over/under-stated based on whatever brand's game is being reviewed at the time. Hard to quantify what the actual impact in a metacritic score with 100 different reviewers.
Yeah.....opinions all around bro so don't sweat it. Just my observations as well.
BigBeauford
Member
He's around because he busted his ass and built a company with his bare hands and talent. Not one person in the industry or even his friend stood up for him when he was taking fire from everywhere over the most tame joke you could possibly imagine.
Greg Miller is a huge piece of shit.
Ashamam
Member
I'm just amazed at how much the concept of wokeness lives rent free in peoples heads.... I mean it can be annoying and in your face at times, but let me tell so can the opposite. I'm just going to sit on my fence and laugh at those with the mind virus on both sides. Join me on my fence... and stop prefacing every post with how woke something is. Its tiresome.
The world would be a better place if more people stood in the centre and stopped joining tribes. Well, apart from the gaming tribe, I'm all in on that one.
The world would be a better place if more people stood in the centre and stopped joining tribes. Well, apart from the gaming tribe, I'm all in on that one.
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Bernardougf
Member
Oh wow .. better reviewed than the first game..
Im shocked... shocked I'll say.
Im shocked... shocked I'll say.
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Danny22
Member
Nailed it. But this has more to say about how predictable review scores are.
Generic
Member
I will trust the totally non-biased user reviews who will totally not review bomb the game 5 minutes after its release.
AtomicStarving
Member
some people posted this online lol
Danny22
Member
It's more sekiro than 'traditional turn based' if that makes sense. Give it a shot. I never feel I'm playing turn based personally (which I don't like as well). I replay Simon (hardest boss) as much as I do Isshin.
Hype plays a major role in the scores of these games. About half of them read like an NPC saying '10 out of 10'. It gives so much power to that contrarian review that gives the game a 60 or 50.
Anyways point is less hyped games or new IPs scoring in the 90s means more. And because of this high scoring, it doesn't leave much space for games that truly excel, that actually deserve that 90 and are better than your spiderman 2s.
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kat_on_the_roof
Gold Member
I'm glad the game was well-reviewed. I'll definitely play it.
When I read the posts here (and in other threads), I get the feeling that many people just need an outlet for their frustration and anger. Sometimes the game itself seems almost secondary. The main thing is fighting the enemy. This bothers me because it severely impairs coexistence and, above all, the culture of discussion. I still believe that no idea, no ideology, should be so sacred that it cannot be questioned and criticized. This applies to both the left and the right.
When I read the posts here (and in other threads), I get the feeling that many people just need an outlet for their frustration and anger. Sometimes the game itself seems almost secondary. The main thing is fighting the enemy. This bothers me because it severely impairs coexistence and, above all, the culture of discussion. I still believe that no idea, no ideology, should be so sacred that it cannot be questioned and criticized. This applies to both the left and the right.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Lol that reminds me...
I tried my name and it fucking sucks, lol.
All the links it uses are posts by others talking about other things, not related to me.
Most of them are linked to icon-era where they absolutely love me as it is
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Look at how great SM2 sold and scored with everyday people.
bighugeguns
Gold Member
Concord is a dead giveaway that something is very fucking wrong with certain publishers and their marketing partners right now, this entire arrangement causes a lot of very serious problems, and it's not really the consumer paying the price, consumers have options, there's an absolute abundance of rapidly expanding options these days, the consequences of operational dishonesty goes straight up the chain instead of down, it's not 10 years ago anymore, shit's different.
Maybe nobody from Sony exec has a hand in this and this is all internal payback for treating staff like shit for years, they're "obligated" to pay bonusses for high Metacritic, why would they intentionally poison themselves to pay employees bonusses, there are some pretty out there extreme people down the chain in AAA game dev today, so who knows what they're willing to do to get even, are execs heads too buried in spreadsheets to notice what's happening? Marking up scores of mid shit today just outright hurts them, it's erosive as fuck, especially when the publishers doesn't have a stake in the big monster games taking more and more overall market share every time shit like this gets pulled.
This arrangement only kind of works until something like a GTA IIIIII rocks up and fucks over everything via pure merit. Then the market shrinking effect cycles tighter.
If I were Sony marketing I wouldn't engage in anonymous shilling when chilling effects are in play this badly (Another huge fucking problem right now), I think it might have the opposite effect because shills are very low skill and very obvious, it's legacy gutter marketing, but that's the least of their problems.
I'm sure all of this will probably(???) "make line go up", but for how long? Their market space keeps steadily shrinking as more options open up and the eternal (lifespans continuously expanding thanks to this fuckery) monster titles keep growing larger. This shit isn't sustainable, not these days. Is the answer to all this slapping everything they output with 90 Metacritic and paying or coercing actual retards / AI / whatever to drum up hype anonymously? The fuck kind of long-term strategy is that?
Maybe I'm putting way too much stock in Herman and friends strategic ability here, if you're fucking dumb and slow enough to allow Concord/Marathon/Fairgame$ to happen you're probably stupid enough to let staff/marketing/media completely run away with your shit like bandits.
Don't get me started with EA, that's absolute looney toons shit right now. These guys all need to catch a wakeup and seriously rethink how they do things, the way things are done right now just won't last, IMO.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hector Hall
Member
I suppose Eurogamer review should not enter the statistics and be considered a "fanatic rating", as with any other PlayStation exclusive.
kazuyamishima
Member
Eurogamer's score for Yotei is similar to what Tsushima got from them, so no surprises.
I'm still waiting for the 6/10 from Edge Magazine as well.
I'm still waiting for the 6/10 from Edge Magazine as well.
nemiroff
Member
Before: Everyone's a nazi
Now: Everyone's woke
Future: Everyone's a nazi
Then: Everyone's woke
It's all so tiring... Why not break the circle for once.
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archangelmorph
Gold Member
WTF is wrong with people like this?
I mean bro, what are you even here for at this point?
If you prefer being entertained fighting nonsense culture wars then why don't you focus your energies frequenting LGBTQ+ matcha bars in LA for fisticuffs brawls with purple-haired karens, and leave the rest of us to fuck all that BS nonesense off and just enjoy playing fun games made by extremely talented creative teams…?
Loboxxx
Member
IGN and Eurogamer have long made a living by attracting attention by bashing highly anticipated games in order to stir up progressive controversy and generate traffic. They're trash.
Nocty
Member
you must admit the era we are in right now is extremely woke.
Every single review has a dedicated section for feminism, gender identity, diversity and blablabla.
The vast majority of people don't give a fuck if you can play as a genderless blob person, they just want a good game.