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Giant Bomb #6 | You'd be hard pressed to find 10 better threads this year.
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
The SF model is to make a product that people might want and hope someone bigger buys you out. lol
Although I feel like GamePro and CBSi were probably stopgap jobs for him. He probably saw the writing on the wall at both places.
razgriz417
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woohoo!
Of course some console warrior gets angry that I didn't prostrate myself before the might of his favorite game machine that happens to be less powerful than my mildly outdated PC. Sorry that saying the PS4 version is the one to get, but also being realistic about its shortcomings, wasn't enough for you?
The game is nowhere near a steady 60fps (it rarely is when there's any real action or background complexity from what I've played, and the DF numbers bear this out) and the hard swings can be distracting. If you want to get on a high horse about frame rates and resolutions, you're backing the wrong horse.
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FWIW, I read the DF article and was legitimately shocked neither version was a constant 60fps. I don't know what type of wizardry or psionics makes a videogame go, but I don't see how anyone would be anything other than disappointed to mildly-offended their newfangled console doesn't play a last gen game at 60fps. I just think thats bananas. To be fair it seems like the issue is the port and not which console is more powerful. But still.
Patrick triumphantly tweeting about his response to a random troll Tumblr question is a bit bizarre.
http://patrickklepek.tumblr.com/pos...oving-how-you-manage-to-keep-finding-the-very
It's like when people retweet and argue with a Twitter account named Jimmies R Rustled or some shit. Ignore the trolls.
http://patrickklepek.tumblr.com/pos...oving-how-you-manage-to-keep-finding-the-very
It's like when people retweet and argue with a Twitter account named Jimmies R Rustled or some shit. Ignore the trolls.
To be be fair, it's pretty much the PC version (which is tough to get constant 60) on ultra with some tweaked Tressfx.
Chance Hale
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The trees move though! Hopefully that and the various Lara improvements come to the PC in a few months(or less).
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Deleted member 22576
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Hmm. Does the PC version really have a reputation for framerate problems? I was actually contemplating picking this game up soon.
I have a pretty beefy rig so I'm not too worried.
I have a pretty beefy rig so I'm not too worried.
Chance Hale
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Tressfx isn't very well optimized for Nvidia cards. I have a GTX670 and i53570K and with Tressfx on and with everything else(including tessellation) at max I get about 50 FPS on average. Steady 60 FPS with the hair turned off. It seems the console versions have slightly less stands but it still looks nice.
Edit: Keep in mind that's with FXAA, not SSAA
By answering and then posting about answering, he's still giving the trolls a soapbox to rely upon, which is counterproductive to his intentions
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Ahh, its the fancy hair problem! I wasn't gonna turn that on anyway.
I've got a 3770k and a gtx680.
I've got a 3770k and a gtx680.
Chance Hale
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It looks nice so there's no reason not to at least try it and see how it runs.
I don't think the minor graphical improvements on the PS4 version are worth shelling out 60 bucks. The PC version is fine. It's not the most optimized game out there but it gets the job done. You can find it for under 10 bucks I'm sure so there's not much to lose.
He's been taking a stance on not ignoring trolls for quite a while, as he believes it's the equivalent of ignoring a problem hoping it'll go away. His TEDx talk was heavily focused on it.
Definitely appreciate the sentiment, but I think it's important to differentiate worthwhile targets like the couple who were jailed for rape threats or industry discrimination/harassment (IndieStatik etc), compared to idiotic, anonymous posts who's sole purpose is to get attention and aggravate.
I love Patrick to death, but I feel he engages the trolls a little too often. I sent him a tumblr comment a while back asking him to highlight the purely positive tumblr comments/questions as much as the ridiculous negative ones.
My logic is that if you reward positivity as much as negativity, people won't feel the need to be jerks in order to get attention.
Oh well, he is still a great dude!
I'm getting an average of 55 frames per second using the benchmark. Each visual settings have varying levels and I have everything at their absolute highest except for anti-aliasing. I used FXAA rather than super sampling. With each level of SSAA, it brings down the average by 10 frames. Lowest going to 35. Without TressFX, the game is no problem at all.
I've heard the definitive edition uses FXAA, a lesser form of TressFX, does not have tessellation, and uses a low setting for AO and shadows. Taking that in mind and applying it to my settings gets me 60, though I obviously can't lower the TressFX setting. It's all or nothing on the PC version. Maybe when they eventually bring DE to the PC at the end of the year or the next we'll see the tweaked version as an option.
3570k @ 4.6GHz 7970GE 1135/1600 for perspective.
Incandenza
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Appropriate that Jeff is on tumblr just before opening this:
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/giant-bomb-mailbag-what-the-hell/2300-8425/
Also includes Vinny's anti-ASMR performance.
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/giant-bomb-mailbag-what-the-hell/2300-8425/
Also includes Vinny's anti-ASMR performance.
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What brand hoody is jeff wearing in the thumbnail for that new mailbag vid?
It looks like it has zippered pockets and two distinct accent colors. Looks really nice.
It looks like it has zippered pockets and two distinct accent colors. Looks really nice.
It's probably one of those fancy Will Smith 100$ hoodie or whatever.
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I know. It looks it. I'm all about the 150$ hoodie.
Twin Tails
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"I'm GIANT BOMB" cracked me up
Twin Tails
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lol
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
There's something weirdly annoying, yet charming, about patrick trying to be an e-sports bro.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
This was in the comments. So silly.
Laaaate.
Laaaate.
SuperSonic1305
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You're complaining about something that is prevalent in nearly all PC games (unlocked framerates with "hard swings"). Also, nice job pulling the old "console warrior" deflection and then getting all passive-agressive pc elitist on us.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait, we're complaining about how brad talked about the TR stuff now?
All he did was say that PS4 had better framerate with slight dips, and 30fps is still playable, which is not exactly a controversial position.
All he did was say that PS4 had better framerate with slight dips, and 30fps is still playable, which is not exactly a controversial position.
Typographenia
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I've never been more afraid and amused at the same time before.
Jimmyfenix
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Now you just opened another can of worms. This war will continue till the end of mankind!
MrTroubleMaker
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lol that helmet is great!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Risible
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Brad, you know better than to get your jimmies rustled by these guys
. When it comes to machine power comparisons people get fucking bonkers, just ignore them.In lighter news, thanks as always for the Bombcast, always makes my week.
edit: Derp, just read further and saw the dude got banned already.
Risible
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There are so many great GB gifs, and this might be in the top 5. sogood.gif
symphonask
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I thought the TR quick look did a good job showing how the framerate dropped on the PS4 version when there was a lot of geometry on screen. Just goes to show that neither version is perfect.
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Whatever, that sweatshirt has too many seams anyway.
You would needed to have had a very low level of technical knowledge to have expected more power in a $400 box than what Sony delivered with the PS4.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
I wasn't a fan of the digital-camo thing it had going on.
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