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[fleck0]

This is super interesting, but so is Dave Lang yelling "YOU WANT TO HONE YOUR CRAFT!" in the background.

 

[Chuck]

OH NO AWKWARDNESS

*hides behind couch red steel style*

 

[snoopeasystreet]

I hate the way Paul Barnett sits.

 

[BUNTING1243]

Yo, HONE YOUR CRAP!
Am I the only one hearing this?

Pretty sure it's craft

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Frog Fractions guy is asking the tough questions

The gloves just came off.

Yo, HONE YOUR CRAP!
Am I the only one hearing this?

Dave Lang is in the building.

 

[Htown]

You don't get to go "it's not fair that they're mad simply because we made changes," when you invite the comparison by attempting to use the name of the old product to sell the new product.

 

[Askherserenity]

Ah this is going to get awkward. Poor Paul, but the game deserves the criticism.

 

[Mr. F]

Frog Fractions guy is asking the tough questions

This is amazing. I love him calling Paul out on pretending the issue people had was them doing a new Dungeon Keeper at all, not the way it was carried out. "For the benefit of the viewers at home, why monetization?" hahaha

 

[MKP64]

Will Smith yelling is more interesting than this awkward justification.

 

[Antiwhippy]

PANIC.

 

[Pudge]

I wish someone would ask him why EA feels like putting out a bigger Dungeon Keeper on actual game consoles and PC instead of phones is a horrible idea.

 

[JABEE]

How about you monetize ethically, not legally?

 

[Deleted member 22576]

See I don't think this is awkward at all. Where is the awkwardness?
This is really candid and down to earth.

 

[Mushroomer25]

Aaand the stream stops.

 

[Stimpack]

Yeah, the Frog Fractions guy is really something. A guy who actually speaks out about legitimate issues, I like it. Also the stream went down for me.

 

[MKP64]

EA ninjas

 

[Askherserenity]

Guys, I bet Lang had something to do with the stream dropping.

 

[mavs]

Moonves'd

 

[megalowho]

Do we have to pay to watch the rest

 

[vitaminwateryum]

Refresh the page. Stream went down for me and refreshing fixed it.

 

[Shingro]

Oh man this guy is real smart, and really honing the eye on microtransaction's problems, double thumbs up to him

 

[totowhoa]

Aaand the stream stops.

Fuuuuck. Was hoping it was just me :/

Refresh the page. Stream went down for me and refreshing fixed it.

Didn't work for me the first two times, but now it's working. Yay Fewer hours of sleep ensured!

 

[travislopes]

Stream is also live on Twitch.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Stream hasn't stopped on Twitch iOS.

 

[Antiwhippy]

See I don't think this is awkward at all. Where is the awkwardness?
This is really candid and down to earth.

Yeah, it turned into a really nice debate. VLambeer dude is pretty cool.

 

[Stimpack]

Refresh the page. Stream went down for me and refreshing fixed it.

Thanks!

 

[Zombie James]

Shit, what did I miss?

 

[Mr. F]

I'm sorry, "have patience, free to play will be good eventually" is probably the worst backpedal justification for negative reception ever.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Spitting mad truths here.

Liking this guy a lot.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Damn, this gentleman from Vlambeer is spot on.

 

[Askherserenity]

Great talk right now. Paul can't do anything but take the hits.

 

[gazele]

So basically indie guys get it, and big company guys don't (I'm sure Paul is a good dude and doesn't like what's happening, but it's also his job i guess)

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I'm glad there are levelheaded people here to refute the monetization bullshit. I could see something like this going the other way depending on the people.

 

[CB3]

Lol EA dude is getting shit on

 

[Deleted member 22576]

OMG, now that the stream stopped and the original is available to start from the beginning I can see the audience noise was deliberate. What an awesome awesome idea. I tuned in and was like "damn, GB is going down the tubes!!"

 

[rbanke]

Yeah, it turned into a really nice debate. VLambeer dude is pretty cool.

yea it can be talked about without being accusational or awkward. I hate microtransactions and the 'f2p' models but am able to stand back and realize thats kinda exactly what arcade games were with quarters. The differences being difficulty vs time meters and that sort of thing. It's not going away so its best to keep having conversations about it and push it towards a less gross solution.

 

[Shingro]

I'm sorry, "have patience, free to play will be good eventually" is probably the worst backpedal justification for negative reception ever.

The other guy wasn't even phased though, he's heard this stuff before, and he's really not letting up, this is great.

 

[JABEE]

He's 100% right.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

Rami just sold a load of copies of Luftrausers.

edit:

This segment has convinced me to buy Luftrausers. Paul Barnett trying to defend his bullshit was insufferable.

SEE!!!

 

[darkside31337]

This segment has convinced me to buy Luftrausers. Paul Barnett trying to defend his bullshit was insufferable.

 

[BanGy.nz]

Rami is the best isn't he?

 

[Archaix]

Yeah Barnett, it's a good thing the European Union is stepping in. It's a shame that you are forced to put that shit in your game until then, if only some government agency would step in and stop EA.

 

[Antiwhippy]

To be fair I think Paul is also at least able to take in the stuff the VLambeer dude is saying.

 

[fleck0]

Rami just sold a load of copies of Luftrausers.

yuuuuuup, I will also be subscribing to his newsletter (on twitter)

 

[rbanke]

stream dropped, didn't see Rami's point.

 

[Mr. F]

The other guy wasn't even phased though, he's heard this stuff before, and he's really not letting up, this is great.

Totally, he's been on point the entire segment. Definitely the highlight of the night, seems like a really intelligent dude.

 

[newjeruse]

I can't believe he's sitting like that.

 

[Chuck]

FOURTH SEGMENT

 

[Askherserenity]

Man, ANOTHER SEGMENT? Lang and Will Smith?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Oh wow, they're still going. I thought it was over.