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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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BronzeWolf said:
I haven't yet recovered from my last disaster for posting pics here, it really did affect my IRL. Now if there was a way to do it anonymously, I would do it, but certainly not here.
Has that got anything to do with the origin of your tag? :lol
 
siddx said:
Do not call her again. You already left her a message.
Your message was terrible btw. "Give me a call when you get this" makes it sound like you are sitting around waiting to hear from her and she needs to get cracking and call you up before you track her down and make a bag out of her face.
But here is a hint. If she's into you, she'll call you back, no matter how dorky or awkward your message was. If she isn't, she's going to ignore you. And she decided whether or not to call you back or answer your call the night she met you. Probably within a few minutes of meeting you.


edit: PXG's achievement list makes me feel like a whore. There is only one thing I haven't gotten yet.


Dont feel bad, there's only like 3 things i haven't gotten yet and 2 of those i think I have but cant remember.
 

Willectro

Banned
-PXG- said:
Well, here we are. A new thread. Give me suggestions as to what I should put in the OP. Pics? Quotes from the old thread?

Take Bdizzle out of the title. He gives shit advice, clearly makes shit up, and as revealed in the previous thread, he fucks fat chicks.
 
There should be a new Achievment.

Order Takeout [15 points] - Have someone travel more than 100 miles across state lines solely for sex with you.
 

CzarTim

Member
sooperkool said:
There should be a new Achievment.

Order Takeout [15 points] - Have someone travel more than 100 miles across state lines solely for sex with you.
Only 15? Think of the frequent flyer miles.
 
Here's a question. I am the typical "nice guy", and I am not really sure how to change that. I do nice things for girls because I like it. Being the nice guy has gotten me laid, actually, on more than one occasion, just not nearly as often as I'd like.

Problem being, my friends will tell me to stop being so nice/ be more of a dick, and I can't draw the line. When I try that, it never works, and I have actually made girls walk away crying just because of something I said. :lol

Usually, being the nice guy works out because I will land in the friend zone with a girl, but then end up sleeping with one of her friends/roommates/whatever. It would be nice to get the girl that I am really interested in, though.
 

siddx

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Full service [15 points]
I had the girl I am sleeping with now deliver me food and then give me a blowjob and clean my apartment the other day. It was like the best delivery service in the world. "Chicken and Head"

Hmmm she reads gaf, if I get a pissed off text later i'll know she came across this post :lol
 
Captain Howdy said:
Here's a question. I am the typical "nice guy", and I am not really sure how to change that. I do nice things for girls because I like it. Being the nice guy has gotten me laid, actually, on more than one occasion, just not nearly as often as I'd like.

Problem being, my friends will tell me to stop being so nice/ be more of a dick, and I can't draw the line. When I try that, it never works, and I have actually made girls walk away crying just because of something I said. :lol

Usually, being the nice guy works out because I will land in the friend zone with a girl, but then end up sleeping with one of her friends/roommates/whatever. It would be nice to get the girl that I am really interested in, though.

Well, there are different kinds of nice. Maybe telling us what nice things you have done for that one girl that got away would helps us pinpoint what you are doing wrong. Remember, there is such a thing as too nice
 

ggnoobIGN

Banned
Captain Howdy said:
Here's a question. I am the typical "nice guy", and I am not really sure how to change that. I do nice things for girls because I like it. Being the nice guy has gotten me laid, actually, on more than one occasion, just not nearly as often as I'd like.

Problem being, my friends will tell me to stop being so nice/ be more of a dick, and I can't draw the line. When I try that, it never works, and I have actually made girls walk away crying just because of something I said. :lol

Usually, being the nice guy works out because I will land in the friend zone with a girl, but then end up sleeping with one of her friends/roommates/whatever. It would be nice to get the girl that I am really interested in, though.
You do just the opposite. You make friends with her friends, be a dick to the girl you are interested in. She'll go crazy for you.

Being a dick doesn't have to mean making her cry. If you guys are out or something, make sure to talk to her, do all that good stuff. Maybe have a short little lame make-out session if the setting's appropriate (read:drunk at a bar). But then just never text her or call her and in the meanwhile always be texting her friends. They'll talk you up like "heyyyy xxx just texted me about this this and this" or whatever the fuck women talk about. The girl you're interested in will go crazy wondering why she isn't the one being contacted.
 
ggnoobIGN said:
You do just the opposite. You make friends with her friends, be a dick to the girl you are interested in. She'll go crazy for you.
This works

I've got another one

Back to full health [15 pts] - Pick up a girl that tends for you in a hospital/healing house/clinic

I picked up the girl that took my blood/pee samples when I was at the hospital. Obviously after I got out
 

siddx

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Captain Howdy said:
Here's a question. I am the typical "nice guy", and I am not really sure how to change that. I do nice things for girls because I like it. Being the nice guy has gotten me laid, actually, on more than one occasion, just not nearly as often as I'd like.

Problem being, my friends will tell me to stop being so nice/ be more of a dick, and I can't draw the line. When I try that, it never works, and I have actually made girls walk away crying just because of something I said. :lol

Usually, being the nice guy works out because I will land in the friend zone with a girl, but then end up sleeping with one of her friends/roommates/whatever. It would be nice to get the girl that I am really interested in, though.

It's more about acting like you don't care all that much, not kicking her in the cunt and calling her mother a whore. It's this fine line you straddle between "yeah I am interested in you, but no I don't really care that much about you." If you drool over her and are clearly into her, buying her drinks and complimenting her and just giving her loads of attention, she's getting all she needs from you and has all the power. Why sleep with you when you are already making her feel like a little princess. Plus you come off as pathetic, girls don't respect the guy who is tripping over his feet to look like prince charming.

If you are looking for a serious long term loving relationship, you are better off just doing what you are doing though. You don't want to try and form a lasting relationship with a girl who fell for you because you kept making jokes about her having a smelly twat.

also as someone else said, be kind of a dink to her, make fun of her, tease her, but be nice to her friends.
 

Shanadeus

Banned
You really should rename the thread into "How to get laid-age" because that seems to be the overall goal judging by the "achievements" and posts.
 

Enco

Member
Shanadeus said:
You really should rename the thread into "How to get laid-age" because that seems to be the overall goal judging by the "achievements" and posts.
I agree :lol

Being a 'dick' isn't the way to get a long lasting relationship. Don't drool over her but you have to be nice. If you just wanna get laid then things may be different though.
 
Good luck to you all. You are fortunate to have GAF here to help you. Each of us has been in your position at some point.

Listen and learn. No retreat, no surrender!

Two strategies I use to great success:

1) Make a show of pretending to be a jerk. I will actually say something like, "If I was an asshole, I'd do this ____." Then I do ____. Then I say, "Of course, I'm a very nice person and I wouldn't really do that."

2) Make outrageous boasts about your strength, appearance, sexual prowess or intelligence. I mean like totally ridiculous shit along the lines of, "Sometimes it hurts knowing that other humans will never have the joy of having just one day to be as beautiful as me." Then say, "However, I am most proud of my humble nature."

Both tactics require dead-pan delivery with a touch of eye-twinkle at the end.

EDIT - Bonus advice:

Keep compliments specific. Refer to a specific action or attribute. Nothing general or vague.
 

siddx

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Enco said:
I agree :lol

Being a 'dick' isn't the way to get a long lasting relationship. Don't drool over her but you have to be nice. If you just wanna get laid then things may be different though.

Hence


siddx said:
If you are looking for a serious long term loving relationship, you are better off just doing what you are doing though. You don't want to try and form a lasting relationship with a girl who fell for you because you kept making jokes about her having a smelly twat.

I always assumed this thread and the prior one was to help gaf get laid, not get love.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
Count Dookkake said:
Good luck to you all. You are fortunate to have GAF here to help you. Each of us has been in your position at some point.

Listen and learn. No retreat, no surrender!

Two strategies I use to great success:

1) Make a show of pretending to be a jerk. I will actually say something like, "If I was an asshole, I'd do this ____." Then I do ____. Then I say, "Of course, I'm a very nice person and I wouldn't really do that."

2) Make outrageous boasts about your strength, appearance, sexual prowess or intelligence. I mean like totally ridiculous shit along the lines of, "Sometimes it hurts knowing that other humans will never have the joy of having just one day to be as beautiful as me." Then say, "However, I am most proud of my humble nature."

Both tactics require dead-pan delivery with a touch of eye-twinkle at the end.

EDIT - Bonus advice:

Keep compliments specific. Refer to a specific action or attribute. Nothing general or vague.
First strategy I'm interested in seeing in action. It seems counter-productive, but you seem to have great success with it so who knows.
Second strategy is obviously a winner. Girls eat that shit up. Be confident when you say it and even though you're trying to be funny, make her believe you actually believe what you're saying. If you come off TOO jokingly, it'll be seen as a sign of weakness and she'll be like "wow he must have low self esteem!"

EDIT: I think if you're in a situation where you can't find love, you should at least try to get laid first for multiple obvious reasons. In modern society it usually goes sex -> love -> marriage not love -> marriage -> sex. If you're sleeping with someone, things can always escalate to love. If you're looking for love, you're likely to get friendzoned fast.
 

dvolovets

Member
Went on a date with a girl from my class and thought it went well. It wasn't very long because she had a class right after, but it was good for what it was. Didn't make any "moves" per say, but I did make her laugh a bunch of times. Making a move after only 50 minutes of talking just didn't feel right to me. We were talking about going out someplace again and she was really receptive. Here's my question -- do I call/text her now inviting her to dinner and saying something like "enjoyed talking to you yesterday but I'd like to get to know you more", or do I just say it on Wednesday after class?
 

-PXG-

Member
Slayer-33 said:
Whoever came up with the achievements list :lol you sob :D

I was really bored and had nothing to do (well, not entirely true) yesterday morning. Just something for shits and giggles, not to take seriously at all.

But hey, if you've accomplished some, most or all of those, congrats. I guess. Oh, I PM'd a mod to get the thread title changed. There's so much stuff I'd love to put in the OP (like general advice) but there is just so much of it.
 
ggnoobIGN said:
You do just the opposite. You make friends with her friends, be a dick to the girl you are interested in. She'll go crazy for you.

You know what (and I'm being totally honest), this never even occurred to me.
 

Enco

Member
-PXG- said:
I was really bored and had nothing to do (well, not entirely true) yesterday morning. Just something for shits and giggles, not to take seriously at all.

But hey, if you've accomplished some, most or all of those, congrats. I guess. Oh, I PM'd a mod to get the thread title changed. There's so much stuff I'd love to put in the OP (like general advice) but there is just so much of it.
The most important thing you can put is..

How to Spot a Psycho:
1. Talking about hating men or how they're useless.
2. Talking about anything depressive such as suicide or torture (as a serious matter).
3. etc

Then everyone here can add something to the list so that people avoid the mistake (as much as possible).

So what are the signs of a crazy ass girl? It's not always so obvious.
 
woah, woah, woah.....stop the fucking presses!!!

This info. is just to get laid?

I thought this was to get a lasting relationship!?!?

: /
 

Enco

Member
And another thing to add:

Things That Should Trigger Red Lights
  • She's going into a relationship even though she still isn't over a previous breakup
  • She's trying to move things along too quickly
  • She only having guy friends
  • She talks about previous boyfriends to you (more than once)
  • She talks to previous boyfriends (a lot)
  • She is acts depressive
  • She acts crazy
  • She acts spoilt
  • She acts and expects to be treated like a 'princess'
  • She always wants to be with you and gets upset when you can't see her
  • She's always calling you and is upset and angry when you don't answer once
  • She's obsessed with you
  • She can't take a joke
  • She acts like she's the hottest girl in town
  • She hates your friends
  • She hates your family
  • She's insecure (always saying she's ugly)
  • She argues with you in public
  • She doesn't trust you - The GOLDEN one
  • She always complains
  • She thinks/speaks negatively about her friends/family

Just a quick list :lol

EraldoCoil said:
woah, woah, woah.....stop the fucking presses!!!

This info. is just to get laid?

I thought this was to get a lasting relationship!?!?

: /
Sarcasm? It's hard to tell :lol

There's some good general information in these threads but be careful. Hopefully in time the OP will have plenty of info for all scenarios.

edit(s): Adding more info to the list
 

siddx

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dvolovets said:
Went on a date with a girl from my class and thought it went well. It wasn't very long because she had a class right after, but it was good for what it was. Didn't make any "moves" per say, but I did make her laugh a bunch of times. Making a move after only 50 minutes of talking just didn't feel right to me. We were talking about going out someplace again and she was really receptive. Here's my question -- do I call/text her now inviting her to dinner and saying something like "enjoyed talking to you yesterday but I'd like to get to know you more", or do I just say it on Wednesday after class?

Don't be so meek/ass kissy. Just give her a call and say "hey, do you want to get something to eat? Let's go to Jerry's house of bearded clams tomorrow night."

Short simple and direct. The less you say the less chance you will say something stupid and get your dick banned from her vagina.
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
my advices for the OP are to

-take your achievement list out as it doesn't really help anyone. not trying to hate but people have already called it "daunting" - we should be making this thread MORE accessible, not less.

-maybe add in bits of good info at each part of "meeting a girl"

open
-make note of her body language, ie a woman touching her hair while you are chatting her up is a pretty universal sign of subconcious interest

mid
-always be looking for small ways to engage in light physical intimacy, ie touching her arm while laughing at her joke

close

EraldoCoil said:
nope, it was legit post.

gotta crawl before you can walk
 

dvolovets

Member
siddx said:
Don't be so meek/ass kissy. Just give her a call and say "hey, do you want to get something to eat? Let's go to Jerry's house of bearded clams tomorrow night."

Short simple and direct. The less you say the less chance you will say something stupid and get your dick banned from her vagina.
How is it "meek" to say "i'd like to get to know you more"? but considering the date was yesterday, should i call today or just tell her in person tomorrow?
 

siddx

Magnificent Eager Mighty Brilliantly Erect Registereduser
jon bones said:
my advices for the OP are to

-take your achievement list out as it doesn't really help anyone. not trying to hate but people have already called it "daunting" - we should be making this thread MORE accessible, not less.

-maybe add in bits of good info at each part of "meeting a girl"

open
-make note of her body language, ie a woman touching her hair while you are chatting her up is a pretty universal sign of subconcious interest

mid, close, etc

Also a woman touching you period (as in putting her hand on your arm while talking) is pretty good indication of interest. As is steady eye contact, lip biting, and looking "up" at you with her head tilted down when she talks or listens to you talk.
 

Enco

Member
EraldoCoil said:
nope, it was legit post.
You just have to be careful.

As I said before, there's a lot of good advice but don't listen to some stuff like 'be a dick' or 'ignore her for x number of days'.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
If you have low self esteem and a girl shows a LOT of interest in you and even asks you out, there's a high probability it's not gonna be a good relationship for you.
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
guy with pedobear avatar is projecting

dvolovets said:
How is it "meek" to say "i'd like to get to know you more"? but considering the date was yesterday, should i call today or just tell her in person tomorrow?

because it's too "heavy" - you want to keep it light. saying "let's hang out at this spot at this time" already says "i want to know you more" but without being so blatant about it
 

siddx

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dvolovets said:
How is it "meek" to say "i'd like to get to know you more"? but considering the date was yesterday, should i call today or just tell her in person tomorrow?

"Do you want" = meek part
State what you want. There is nothing wrong with saying straight up what you want. "Let's go get something to eat."
I know it sounds ridiculous but language is far more influential than we realize. Especially if it's a text message that she can read and re-read and is forced to apply her own tone to. Neither of you have the benefit of your body language, tone, inflection etc... to help put things in context.
A statement as simple as "You are great" can have 80 different meanings to her depending on what mood she is in.
Which is why I always recommend quick and simple and to the point language on the phone and in text. Too many potential miss-communications.

Keep it simple:
"I want to you take you out to eat, how about Big Sidd's house of tits, shits and grits?"
 

Enco

Member
How to Know When It's Time to End It
  • You don't enjoy being around her
  • You don't feel comfortable around her
  • You don't feel happy around her
  • You can't imagine living with her
  • Refer to 'Things That Should Trigger Red Lights'
  • The only reason you can think of for why you are still together is you love her. This isn't a chick flick, love is not all you need.
  • Your family are totally against each other and hate each other
  • There's no trust - The GOLDEN one
  • You argue more times than you joke and have a happy time
  • You're upset with her more than you are happy

Some more suggestions. It's not always that easy to know when to end it and it's easier said than done.
 
The general advice that helped me the most from the previous girl-age threads is: when in doubt, man up. That means that you must be confident, you must not behave like you are unworthy of her, and you must NOT try to get her just by being nice. You have to be aggressive (NOT creepy or assholeish, mind), have to know what you want and have to actively pursue it in such a way that she knows your intentions from the get-go. It sounds crass and might go against your nice guy instincts, but the right thing to do is evolutionarily imprinted in us.
 

siddx

Magnificent Eager Mighty Brilliantly Erect Registereduser
Enco said:
How to Know When It's Time to End It
  • You don't enjoy being around her
  • You don't feel comfortable around her
  • You don't feel happy around her
  • You can't imagine living with her
  • Refer to 'Things That Should Trigger Red Lights'

Some more suggestions. It's not always that easy to know when to end it and it's easier said than done.

I know some people won't agree but i'll add

  • The only reason you can think of for why you are still together is you love her. This isn't a chick flick, love is not all you need.
 

Enco

Member
siddx said:
I know some people won't agree but i'll add

  • The only reason you can think of for why you are still together is you love her. This isn't a chick flick, love is not all you need.
Completely agree.

Obviously love is important but if everything else is against you, you should move on.
 

Aesius

Member
SmokeMaxX said:
If you have low self esteem and a girl shows a LOT of interest in you and even asks you out, there's a high probability it's not gonna be a good relationship for you.

Not true at all. Counterproductive advice for this thread as well.
 

Ri'Orius

Member
EraldoCoil said:
woah, woah, woah.....stop the fucking presses!!!

This info. is just to get laid?

I thought this was to get a lasting relationship!?!?

: /

I think it started out that way, but then (d)evolved into more PUA-like how-to-fuck-women advice. But I stopped following the last thread when I got that vibe, so maybe I'm mistaken

Also, wasn't there an explicit thread at one point for getting laid? I seem to recall the thread title ended with something like "the DEATH OF VIRGIN-AGE!!"?
 

Enco

Member
INFO FOR OP SO FAR

-take your achievement list out as it doesn't really help anyone. not trying to hate but people have already called it "daunting" - we should be making this thread MORE accessible, not less.

-maybe add in bits of good info at each part of "meeting a girl"

open
-make note of her body language, ie a woman touching her hair while you are chatting her up is a pretty universal sign of subconcious interest

mid
-always be looking for small ways to engage in light physical intimacy, ie touching her arm while laughing at her joke

close

-

(jon bones -all of the above)

Things That Should Trigger Red Lights
  • She's going into a relationship even though she still isn't over a previous breakup
  • She's trying to move things along too quickly
  • She only having guy friends
  • She talks about previous boyfriends to you (more than once)
  • She talks to previous boyfriends (a lot)
  • She is acts depressive
  • She acts crazy
  • She acts spoilt
  • She acts and expects to be treated like a 'princess'
  • She always wants to be with you and gets upset when you can't see her
  • She's always calling you and is upset and angry when you don't answer once
  • She's obsessed with you
  • She wants constant attention
  • She can't take a joke
  • She acts like she's the hottest girl in town
  • She hates your friends
  • She hates your family
  • She's insecure (always saying she's ugly)
  • She argues with you in public
  • She doesn't trust you - The GOLDEN one
  • She always complains
  • She thinks/speaks negatively about her friends/family
  • She's violent
  • She's delusional. If she starts seeing ridiculous things in small events such as a girl saying happy birthday to you and she thinks you're cheating
  • She's always jealous/makes paranoid assumptions. If she gets annoyed when you smile at another girl that's not a good sign.
  • She's emotionally unstable. Crying all the time about small things and not getting what she wants
  • She's a compulsive liar

How to Know When It's Time to End It
  • You don't enjoy being around her
  • You don't feel comfortable around her
  • You don't feel happy around her
  • You can't imagine living with her
  • Refer to 'Things That Should Trigger Red Lights'
  • The only reason you can think of for why you are still together is you love her. This isn't a chick flick, love is not all you need.
  • Your families are totally against each other and hate each other
  • There's no trust - The GOLDEN one
  • You argue more times than you joke and have a happy time
  • You're upset with her more than you are happy


What To Do on a (First) Date
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What NOT To Do on a (First) Date
  • Act rude. Don't fart
  • Be rude. Don't tell her she's ugly or fat
  • Ask her to pay (if it's a restaurant etc.)
  • Talk only about yourself
  • Tell her about how you think another girl is hot and how you want her

Bad Signs on a First Date
  • She's late
  • She doesn't show up
  • She eats like a pig (restaurant etc.)
  • She only talks about herself
  • She is loud and obnoxious

Not all mine (siddx and jon bones too). Just thought it would be easier for the op to include things if they're more bunched together!
 
This thread is an all-purpose girl-age thread. If somebody has trouble getting laid, they can get help; if somebody is trying to start a relationship and encounters trouble, they can get help. Given that this forum primarily targets younger folks, there will probably be more of the former, but really, the advice for both is derived from similar base principles relating to psychology and biology, making a lot of the advice "cross streams" so to speak.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Urgh, I have pretty good people skills but I'm still having trouble getting out and meeting people. I've got friends, but I don't have a "group" I hang out with and I don't really go to parties or anything, so I have like no chances to actually talk to any nice girls.
 

dvolovets

Member
siddx said:
"Do you want" = meek part
State what you want. There is nothing wrong with saying straight up what you want. "Let's go get something to eat."
I know it sounds ridiculous but language is far more influential than we realize. Especially if it's a text message that she can read and re-read and is forced to apply her own tone to. Neither of you have the benefit of your body language, tone, inflection etc... to help put things in context.
A statement as simple as "You are great" can have 80 different meanings to her depending on what mood she is in.
Which is why I always recommend quick and simple and to the point language on the phone and in text. Too many potential miss-communications.

Keep it simple:
"I want to you take you out to eat, how about Big Sidd's house of tits, shits and grits?"
OK, but I think I should at least reference yesterday. Something like "it was great seeing you yesterday" can't hurt...
 
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