unfuckingbelievable
So the kid went under this metal railing with "securtiy ropes", through the bushes and fell into the fake river.
Jesus chirst, how was this allowed in the first place?
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Gorilla killed after dragging child at Cincinnati Zoo
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Jesus chirst, how was this allowed in the first place?
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
Im also on the "fuck the parents" side..
Sorry but going into a zoo, the parents have to step it up a notch with the observation of the child. In that environment, you should NOT take your eyes from your child..
Unfortunately, this is what I am seeing so much nowadays, parents focusing on their mobile phones and just letting their child run along.. no matter in what situation.
Yeah, so fuck the parents
Sorry but going into a zoo, the parents have to step it up a notch with the observation of the child. In that environment, you should NOT take your eyes from your child..
Unfortunately, this is what I am seeing so much nowadays, parents focusing on their mobile phones and just letting their child run along.. no matter in what situation.
Yeah, so fuck the parents
Messofanego
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Of all the places to put a leash on a kid, this would have been it.
TheRedSnifit
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That's definitely a poorly-designed enclosure. The Toledo Zoo has gorillas behind plexiglass, and it doesn't effect the quality of the exhibit at all.
Boozeroony
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Wait... the kid didn't carry a gun?
Asking for trouble.
Asking for trouble.
Yup, leash them up.Of all the places to put a leash on a kid, this would have been it.
nelsonroyale
Member
Doesn't that depend? In the eyes of the law, sure. Let's be honest here though, if this was a gorilla I had brought up, then my emotional attatchment would likely be more than than with a child I didn't know. Added to that, this is in the context of a zoo. Humans have massacred wild populations of these things. This is in the context of the zoo, the animals are a paramount in a zoo. This kind of situation absolutely should not happen. Both the family and the zoo should be fined...heavily. I am sad for the families loss for sure, but it was for people to avoid, not the animal. Personally, I think this situation was sad whatever the outcome. One lives one dies, it is a fuck up either way.
Zoos shouldn't exist at all. How about them apples? Fuck zoos.
Screw anyone who blames the parents, or even the kid.
Mega Caprison
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stupid parenting
utterly stupid to let go off your sight
hope that parent learn their lesson
for the gorrila sake
stupid parent
utterly stupid to let go off your sight
hope that parent learn their lesson
for the gorrila sake
stupid parent
Messofanego
Banned
Why not blame the parent? The mother let her kid go over the railing and fall from a great height. He could have just died from the fall.
Yeah watched the video too and it seemed like... he wanted to even help at first? He protected the kid. Didn't help that everyone screams, but I don't it meant harm and even realized what was happening? Wouldn't surprise me. Even more sad that they had to shoot him because it was too dangerous.
Yup. Fuck zoos indeed.
Bad situation all around, but I won't blame the parent. Parents are still just humans after all and if you have two kids to watch over, one tug on the shoulder from kid no. 2 would be enough to lose track of kid no. 1 for a second or two. Which is all the time kid no. 1 needs since this "enclosure" consists solely of hopes and dreams. Chest high fence or plexiglass and we wouldn't have this thread right now.
This right here, but at the same time how would you go about closing them? Aren't most animals at zoo's animals that couldn't survive in the wild and were rescued somehow? How would one go about closing Zoo's with animals who aren't capable of surviving outside of that environment?
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I wouldn't blame the parents. My mother was an absolutely fantastic parent who did a great job with me, and she still tells me about the time when I was 4 and we were at a crowded fair and she lost track of me - four year olds are surprisingly fast and small and if its a busy day, you can't always keep track. Even if you manage 99% of the time, if you take your kid on 100 trips to busy places in two years, you'd expect one mishap. That's just how it works, and I feel like the people in this thread who don't understand that probably have no parenting experience.
The most at blame here is the zoo itself. That 'security' fence is a disgrace, I'm actually surprised this didn't happen earlier.
The most at blame here is the zoo itself. That 'security' fence is a disgrace, I'm actually surprised this didn't happen earlier.
neoism
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unfuckingbelievable
So the kid went under this metal railing with "securtiy ropes", through the bushes and fell into the fake river.
yeah ive never been to a zoo but seriously
what the fuck is this...
i know gorillas can be chill mostly but ...��
Negligence on the parent's part. Sorry, but your child fell into a cage with a gorilla. You're at a zoo with animals that could snap a person in half. Pay attention. As for the zoo itself, those railings are pathetic. I don't believe the parents of the child deserve to sue, but something needs to happen there.
Poor gorilla. No reason that he had to die because of human negligence. I saw what footage and he really wasn't acting aggressive in the slightest. Suppose it could have happened after it was cut off, but eh.
Poor gorilla. No reason that he had to die because of human negligence. I saw what footage and he really wasn't acting aggressive in the slightest. Suppose it could have happened after it was cut off, but eh.
There was nothing graphic in the video i watched. Maybed they removed the bad stuff?
The thing is though, the gorilla was likely dragging the child thinking it had the strength of a baby gorila. Could they not have put the gorilla to sleep with a dart rather than killing the thing? It's very sad all around, because with proper precautions by the zoo and the parents none of this would've happened.
CrazedProfessional
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The bad stuff is the that Gorilla tried dragging the kid by the leg and was then shot. Certain places have a full video.
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The thing is though, the gorilla was likely dragging the child thinking it had the strength of a baby gorila. Could they not have put the gorilla to sleep with a dart rather than killing the thing? It's very sad all around, because with proper precautions by the zoo and the parents none of this would've happened.
Tranquilizers are very difficult to do right. Even if judged perfectly, they take about 10-15 seconds to take effect, and understandably animals can become pretty agitated in that time. Even judged wrong, they can either kill the animal or have no real effect other than agitation, both of which are bad. You can use tranquilizers if your staff respond essentially immediately and it is unlikely that the animal in question can reach the person in time, but given this gorilla already had the child, that wasn't really an option.
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I remember this happened in the UK and a female gorilla protected the little boy from the male. She was cradling him and everything.
This is just so sad and avoidable. The zoo are fucking idiots for having this kind of set up and the parent is a moron for not watching their kid. I know it's easy to look away for 10 seconds, but if there was ever a place you would be watching your child like hawk then this is it.
This is just so sad and avoidable. The zoo are fucking idiots for having this kind of set up and the parent is a moron for not watching their kid. I know it's easy to look away for 10 seconds, but if there was ever a place you would be watching your child like hawk then this is it.
crisdecuba
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Nah, nevermind.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Well that kid's got a story to tell.
Yes, sure, but I'm being somewhat realistic.
Jack The Nipper
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I guess it's hard to say how the kids was handled from the video. There is nothing at all in the way of harm that I saw but I'm on my old. After the first part of didn't even see either of them again
In thought it must have been bad from people saying they stopped it but there was nothing at all.
So I guess the boy wanted to go see him?
Maybe they need a nice solid glass wall somewhere between the fence and edge of the enclosure?
Obviously you don't usually expect someone to try and climb on but you have to be ready for that.
In thought it must have been bad from people saying they stopped it but there was nothing at all.
So I guess the boy wanted to go see him?
Maybe they need a nice solid glass wall somewhere between the fence and edge of the enclosure?
Obviously you don't usually expect someone to try and climb on but you have to be ready for that.
LoveCake
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As soon as I heard this today I immediately thought of an incident that happened here in the UK (On searching it was on the Island of Jersey) it was a huge story at the time.
In 1986 five year old Levan Merritt fell into the gorilla enclosure and lost consciousness. Jambo stood guard over the boy when he was unconscious, placing himself between the boy and other gorillas in what ethologists analyse as a protective gesture. He later stroked the unconscious boy. When the boy regained consciousness and started to cry, Jambo and the other gorillas retreated, and an ambulance-men and two keepers rescued the boy.
Video of what happened
In 1996 there was the incident at Brookfield Zoo, A three-year-old boy climbed the wall around the gorilla exhibit and fell 18 feet into the gorilla enclosure below, suffering a broken hand and a large gash on the side of his face. Binti walked towards the unconscious boy while helpless spectators screamed, certain that the gorillas would harm him. Instead, Binti protected the child. Binti gently cradled the child and laid him down when she heard her shift door open to her downstairs enclosure.
Video of what happened
Gorilla's are not dumb animals of course each is different and some will of course be more aggressive than others, but they must have known the temperament of this gorilla and from the video it doesn't look like the gorilla is attacking the child, the opposite in fact, furthermore what was wrong with a tranquillizer dart?
In 1986 five year old Levan Merritt fell into the gorilla enclosure and lost consciousness. Jambo stood guard over the boy when he was unconscious, placing himself between the boy and other gorillas in what ethologists analyse as a protective gesture. He later stroked the unconscious boy. When the boy regained consciousness and started to cry, Jambo and the other gorillas retreated, and an ambulance-men and two keepers rescued the boy.
Video of what happened
In 1996 there was the incident at Brookfield Zoo, A three-year-old boy climbed the wall around the gorilla exhibit and fell 18 feet into the gorilla enclosure below, suffering a broken hand and a large gash on the side of his face. Binti walked towards the unconscious boy while helpless spectators screamed, certain that the gorillas would harm him. Instead, Binti protected the child. Binti gently cradled the child and laid him down when she heard her shift door open to her downstairs enclosure.
Video of what happened
Gorilla's are not dumb animals of course each is different and some will of course be more aggressive than others, but they must have known the temperament of this gorilla and from the video it doesn't look like the gorilla is attacking the child, the opposite in fact, furthermore what was wrong with a tranquillizer dart?
quickwhips
Member
Glad the kiddos ok as at three it isn't his fault. But if his parents or guardian were watching better the gorilla would still be alive.
Yes I'm sure the gorilla's life is the mother's biggest concern right now.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I would assume they could have gotten a tranquilizer but maybe time only gave them a gun? No idea there but with the way police shoot dogs maybe they just shoot everything now.
To be fair slate I don't think most would say the mother should care for the gorilla bit the zoo should have had a way to keep both of them safe in such a situation.
To be fair slate I don't think most would say the mother should care for the gorilla bit the zoo should have had a way to keep both of them safe in such a situation.
Fuck the zoo's safety measures, what kind of cage a 4 years old can break into?!
Mechanized
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Zoos really shouldn't exist in 2016. But more to the actual point, how the fuck was that fencing an acceptable design? That's fucking nuts.
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I don't like zoos either, but we live in a world where people still believe in dumb ass medicines that mean animals are killed daily for things like horns. The world is a shitty place and we will sadly get to the point where the only animals from a species left alive are not in the wild but in captivity in a zoo. Zoos are shit, but they are a product of an even shittier reality.
Fbh
Member
Man that's sad.
Hopefully this forces the Zoo to put up better security measures.
The parents are idiots too for sure, but there should be enough security around dangerous animals that even an unsupervised 4 years old kid can't get into the cage with them
Yeah, I bet if this happened to you or your family/friends and they let the gorilla kill the kid you'd be totally fine with the Zoo and authorities telling you "Well sir, we have massacred wild populations of gorillas so bad luck I guess". Even more so here when the person in question is 4 years old and obviously has no idea of what he has doing
Hopefully this forces the Zoo to put up better security measures.
The parents are idiots too for sure, but there should be enough security around dangerous animals that even an unsupervised 4 years old kid can't get into the cage with them
Yeah, I bet if this happened to you or your family/friends and they let the gorilla kill the kid you'd be totally fine with the Zoo and authorities telling you "Well sir, we have massacred wild populations of gorillas so bad luck I guess". Even more so here when the person in question is 4 years old and obviously has no idea of what he has doing
quickwhips
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The kid sure wasn't.
The thing with the visitors and that it's like an exhibition is what's especially bothering me....if enough people will support "zoos without visitors" financially, it'll be fine. Anyway a safari is better than a zoo so that's a more realistic option
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Comments like these are disturbingly ignorant.
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No' tranquilizers take time to have an effect.
maquiladora
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Zoos shouldn't have existed beyond the Victorian era. We don't have freakshows anymore, we shouldn't have enclosures where people come to stare at "exotic" animals in captivity either.
TatteredHat
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Those railings are a complete joke, you can do open air exhibits in zoos while still taking proper precautions to make sure both humans and animals remain unharmed.
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