Pretty much.
Don't forget doing ray tracing (extremely expensive on AMD GPUs) at that 60fps you mentioned, in an open world game no less.
The consoles can do a generational leap though. But yes devs have rested on 60fps shiny PS4 games so we’re kinda fucked.
Ah yes, i forgot the low ass res bugged(?) reflections that suck a good 30% of the rendering budget.
There’s no fucking way bro
I trust my eyes. When I saw that there was indeed a massive difference from the first game, yes I changed my tune. Im still not letting the poor character models or the lack of a generational upgrade on buildings slide, so its not like im straight up sucking their dick.
Never underestimate the power of playstation (fanboys) semi-cit.
I'm not seeing anything in those screens that constitutes generational leap or anything even close to that. To each their own I guess. To me they look like a difference between low and high settings, not games on different console generations.I trust my eyes. When I saw that there was indeed a massive difference from the first game, yes I changed my tune. Im still not letting the poor character models or the lack of a generational upgrade on buildings slide, so its not like im straight up sucking their dick.
I don't consider that enough of a nextgen jump and you know those spidey pics are shit, go into the reeee photo topic for the first game to see how it really looks (since in here people think that photomode pics is how the game actually look).I trust my eyes. When I saw that there was indeed a massive difference from the first game, yes I changed my tune. Im still not letting the poor character models or the lack of a generational upgrade on buildings slide, so its not like im straight up sucking their dick.
you do realize we got PC versions of Spiderman 1 and Miles and we never got anything even remotely close to this? We also got PS5 remasters with enhanced traffic and pedestrian density and it was not even close to this.
Spider-Man 2 killed all my hype for Wolverine. I just did a quest:
- collect 3 plants
- do a 'puzzle' (heh) to combine them
- patch few water pipe leaks with your webs
That's it. That's the entire activity. What. The. Hell. This is Bethesda level of quests where all you do is collect a beverage and deliver it to the other side of the universe.
More next-gen water:
I dont know about Space Marine devs, but Remedy has 360 employees according to their website. Insomniac has 550 but they split it into three teams. One making spiderman, the other wolverine and the last one a gaas superhero game like suicide squad. So i wouldnt be surprised if this team is actually smaller than Remedy's main team.
I remember you used to write pieces like these to dismiss the game, now you writing them in defense of it. You're free to change your mind of course.
FFS I legit laughed out loud here! OMG
Are you saying the baked lighting in SM2 is better than PT Cyberpunk?
Of course not, that would be a major difference
SlimySnake
: "No!"
SlimySnake
: "lol no............"
It really does feel like we’re never going to get the UE5 reveal demo/matrix demo level fidelity this whole gen… we’re coming up on halfway through and garbage like Spider-Man 2 is our current AAA blockbuster release. The shining examples of graphics 3 years in is a cross gen game and a launch title. Like wtfGaf: "Do you think SM2 looks last gen?"
Gaf: "No????"
Literally demon souls the launch title mops the floor with Spider-Man 2Btw i watched the AW2 nvidia trailer.
What do you people want me to say exactly? nice lights? nice shadows? nice reflections? you got it.
It doesn't exactly make my panties wet but it looks good, it looks better than spidey 2, i give you that
No. This is a callback to the conversation we are having earlier about Alan wake 2 only looking next Gen on $2000 gpus running path tracing. I pointed out that the game will look next Gen even on consoles without path tracing because the game has static time of day so the path tracing GI wont impact the fidelity as much. Hell even horizon fw which does have dynamic time of day has better lighting than most games. The only difference is that it switches between different bakes a little more abruptly than say a game with rtgi, lumen or pt.
Both girls looks butt ugly, so they have that in common.Alright boys who wins, 2 main characters from an early 2015 PS4 game, or 2 main characters from a PS5 only late 2023 game
Vs
Oh right. One has a film grain filter. Completely incomparable. Cmon insomniac doesn’t need you to coddle them. You know which of them looks much better.
Yeah. I’ve already lowered my expectations. But not a single game has blown me away graphically this generation. I’ve had moments of “that looks great” - but nothing the level of say seeing LOU 2 or Uncharted 4 or the Order for the first time
Demon Souls had a few moments that blew me away. The CGI level clouds of burning shores really impressed me as well. As far the horizon goes, only space marines 2 has been like “holy shit that looks next Gen” to me. But I’m curious to see more of avatar and Alan wake when they release. They look really really good.
The best part of the ue5 demo was the flying scene at the end. That’s when everyone lost their shit. You get that in Spider-Man 2.
And where exactly i was cuddling insomniac? i was just pointing out how the 2 games are at the 2 opposite extreme iq wise
The mountain demo? WHAT?
Lighting and asset quality are way better than what that demo was doing.
lol dude. Only in speed. The gulf in fidelity is generational. SM2 is laughable side by side visually speaking. Everyone went nuts because of the speed and graphics presentation. If I made a game with Uncharted 2 level graphics and flew through the world at super super super high speeds would that be impressive? No.
I disagree the best part of the demo was the sheer fidelity on display, the insane quality of assets, density of geometry and amazing lighting blew everyone away I didnt really care about the flying and the second demo after that didnt even have that, it doubled down on the display of lumen and nanite and spiderman2 is nowhere near outside traversal.
The lighting quality is good but hardly way better than lumen thats serious hyprbole, and what assets are you seeing in alan wake 2 that eclipse the demo?! They literally zoomed 20x into the assets and they were flawless and consistent throughout.
The scale of the waves are wrong.Water looks fantastic in this game. no idea whats wrong with it.
What happened
Standards have changed. UE5 demo was 3.5 years ago and people arent going to be wow'd like they were back in the day. You'd need to eclipse the matrix demo and thats not happening until next next gen. Just look at the downplaying of Avatar in this thread every time i bring it up.
Dont you remember the shitstorm that part of the demo started? Everyone kept saying that the ps5 ssd enabled the final flying sequence and that it wouldnt be possible on the xbox consoles. it was by far the most talked about moment from the video.
Have you lost your mind?
See above. You guys need to go watch the ue5 demo again. it aint the graphical showpiece it was 3 years ago. i just watched it five seconds ago and Alan Wake 2 clearly looks better.
You were one of the best slimy but they broke you.
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We didnt hold the line....and it appears some of us here looked into the abyss.
Where are you getting that from? What photo? The silhouettes arent that complex at all? Infact the asset quality is the thing its noticable lacking.