Bojji
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Reflections are low res cube maps (with SSR?).
If someone told me it was from PC version of GOT I would believe him, very small upgrade (based on one trailer).
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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
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Reflections are low res cube maps (with SSR?).
If someone told me it was from PC version of GOT I would believe him, very small upgrade (based on one trailer).
GymWolf
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Noted, still not impressed.
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Msamy
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Maybe you are right but lighting is clearly rt and for me reflection not ssr either maybe use same method as gow ragnorok rt reflection in ps5 that it's developers mentioned in some interviewReflections are low res cube maps (with SSR?).
If someone told me it was from PC version of GOT I would believe him, very small upgrade (based on one trailer).
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GymWolf
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My filthy asshole look crazy on a small screen\gif, watch it on a proper oled tv in 4k.
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KXVXII9X
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Ghost of Tsushima was the game where I realized how much good art style/direction matters. Ghost of Yotei may not have the highest visual fidelity of all time, but I prefer it above the rest in terms of presentation due to the art direction.
arkhamguy123
Member
Because the world and characters look a Gen better…?
Please tell me how sushi2 is a generational leap over fucking days gone.
Msamy
Member
Compare it to the most upcoming current gen game with close settings which is shadows and you will see how much it looks better than shadows.
Please tell me how sushi2 is a generational leap over fucking days gone.
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GymWolf
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Btw I'm just gonna bring days gone on the table again, ground texturesReflections are low res cube maps (with SSR?).
If someone told me it was from PC version of GOT I would believe him, very small upgrade (based on one trailer).
I'm sorry, you can have pixar level of rtx, but you also must upgrade your fucking assets, one thing can't cover for both.
Bojji
Member
GOW used cube maps combined with some RT (hardware or software, IDK) in few places in GOW, this is just plain - ugly low res cube map. Looks like shit.
Can't say anything about RTGI or RTAO, I have no idea if this game show any signs of it.
Btw I'm just gonna bring days gone on the table again, ground textures
I'm sorry, you can have pixar level of rtx, but you also must upgrade your fucking assets, one thing can't cover for both.
Days Gone looks really good, even on PS5. Looks like sucker punch forgot that they have 13GB of RAM now for textures, lol. GoT looks really good overall but that's mostly thanks to art, assets and textures were low quality - looks like a small jump for the sequel.
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GymWolf
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Ok, pretty shadows, no offese, but who gives a damn?
As you reading in this very topic, majority of people are disappointed, slightly more accurate shadows are not gonna change that.
A game like days gone should look nowhere near a full nextgen project, it sure as hell doesn't look nowhere near wukong, and that one has some absolutely gigantic areas without loadings, the open world excuse is not that good anymore, at least this is what i was told by the experts.
This is sp2 all over again, some imprevements, better lights and shadows, old gen assets and characters.
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Bojji
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GymWolf
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Sure thing
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ChiefDada
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As someone who thought GoT was overrated from a visuals standpoint, this is probably the most impressive looking PS5 game I've seen.
What they're doing with shadows, bounced lighting/RTGI and depth of field is nothing short of impressive. SP already had the art down, now it looks like they are allowing the tech to catch up.
Notice no trace of shadow aliasing below and look at the shades of yellow from her clothing bouncing back on her face. This is stunning. M Musilla please provide gifs of this scene and one for right after showing the wolf paws as it's walking through forest.
What they're doing with shadows, bounced lighting/RTGI and depth of field is nothing short of impressive. SP already had the art down, now it looks like they are allowing the tech to catch up.
Notice no trace of shadow aliasing below and look at the shades of yellow from her clothing bouncing back on her face. This is stunning. M Musilla please provide gifs of this scene and one for right after showing the wolf paws as it's walking through forest.
RodriGames40
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It certainly looks better already but the film-esque letterboxing they used is not helping. We should wait for a proper vertical slice for the micro stuff.
Please tell me how sushi2 is a generational leap over fucking days gone.
arkhamguy123
Member
Okay Mr Astro bot has bad physicsSure thing
GymWolf
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I think that even if i'm too negative, youtube is not the right source to judge microdetails, we have to wait to play the damn game on our consoles.
Msamy
Member
I have many opposite opinions with you in the past, but I am 100% with you on this one, this trailer is amazingAs someone who thought GoT was overrated from a visuals standpoint, this is probably the most impressive looking PS5 game I've seen.
What they're doing with shadows, bounced lighting/RTGI and depth of field is nothing short of impressive. SP already had the art down, now it looks like they are allowing the tech to catch up.
Notice no trace of shadow aliasing below and look at the shades of yellow from her clothing bouncing back on her face. This is stunning. M Musilla please provide gifs of this scene and one for right after showing the wolf paws as it's walking through forest.
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GymWolf
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Never said that it has bad physics, but ok mr gta5 was not a regression compared to gta4Okay Mr Astro bot has bad physics
let's be happy that sony actually fucking showed something.
Maybe the new protagonist is not gonna be a dull ass like jin
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RodriGames40
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True, that's the absolute best choice. Also, it must be the strong compression as well but the framerate seems kinda low. This trailer was encoded strangely.
mrqs
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Most game studios should switch to Unreal 5. Or they should've used Decima or something.
InFamous Second Son was one of the most striking games of the PS4 launch window, it still looks dope to this day.
I'm still hopeful for Naughty Dog / Santa Monica's Cory game, but damn, what a shame.
InFamous Second Son was one of the most striking games of the PS4 launch window, it still looks dope to this day.
I'm still hopeful for Naughty Dog / Santa Monica's Cory game, but damn, what a shame.
GymWolf
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But then again, if we can't discuss anything until the game is out, the topic would be dead.
And in the past we pretty much nailed everything, from sp2 being nothing much to wukong being promising so...
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GymWolf
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Don't forget bend and bluepoint, if bend didn't bleeded all the talent like slimy said, they are gonna surpass both insomniac and sucker punch in a single sweep, a man can hope.
They are probably using ue5 since their last game was on ue4.
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RodriGames40
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I think I'm the only one here so far but I'm actually more impressed by the work they made for the HZD remaster. There's a significant upgrade there, only held back by the originally more limited cutscenes of the original.
GymWolf
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You are not the only one buddy.
Msamy
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100% sure they are using it and other rt features , in coming days in DF analysis they will confirm that.
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RodriGames40
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Someone had to show Naughty Dog how it's done for once. Guerrilla/Nixxes never misses.
Msamy
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I hope that they implement some rt features on it
GymWolf
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They said they reached FW quality so in theory no, but maybe the pro is gonna have something to say about it.
ChiefDada
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I mean, they're definitely simulating bounced lighting (look at the leaves color bouncing on the horse) all over the place to the point where I find it hard to see how it's anything other than real time system,. But yeah, we'll wait for confirmation.
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I finally watched in 4K. This game is going to look stunning in motion on TV.
This will be a looker.
Also, this was captured on the PS5, not even the PRO. Expecting even better on PRO
This will be a looker.
Also, this was captured on the PS5, not even the PRO. Expecting even better on PRO
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
GoT confirms my suspicions about sony studios just kind of phoning in this gen. It looks like a HZD to HFW and spiderman 1 to spiderman 2 esque leap. No UE5 caliber leap here.
Pros
- Great draw distance. finally.
- Gorgeous snow effects
- Lots of horses
- Decent fur effects on horses and wolves
- same great cinematography
Cons
- Same plastic character models. i swear Delsin in Infamous Second son had better face shaders
- Fairly similar lighting to the first
- Same janky animations
- Same cartoony art style.
- same last gen esque NPC models
- same last gen geometry
Sony studios shouldve adopted UE5. They have been clearly left behind. This wasnt just Insomniac being insomniac or ND phoning in the remake or astrobot devs not giving a shit about graphics. this is clearly the standard to expect from sony this gen.
Pros
- Great draw distance. finally.
- Gorgeous snow effects
- Lots of horses
- Decent fur effects on horses and wolves
- same great cinematography
Cons
- Same plastic character models. i swear Delsin in Infamous Second son had better face shaders
- Fairly similar lighting to the first
- Same janky animations
- Same cartoony art style.
- same last gen esque NPC models
- same last gen geometry
Sony studios shouldve adopted UE5. They have been clearly left behind. This wasnt just Insomniac being insomniac or ND phoning in the remake or astrobot devs not giving a shit about graphics. this is clearly the standard to expect from sony this gen.
Bojji
Member
I mean, they're definitely simulating bounced lighting (look at the leaves color bouncing on the horse) all over the place to the point where I find it hard to see how it's anything other than real time system,. But yeah, we'll wait for confirmation.
It could be it, yeah. I can tell you everything about reflections quality in games but when it comes to GI sometimes I can't fucking tell (the best way is to play game and compare).
KXVXII9X
Member
One of the most beautiful visuals I have seen in gaming. My jaw dropped at this part.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is Delsin from Sucker Punch's first game 10 whole years ago.
Please tell me how sushi2 is a generational leap over fucking days gone.
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ResetEraVetVIP
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I’m referring to the multiplayer actually…
Radical_3d
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To me RT is the emperor’s clothes. It’s always better to invest in IQ and assets.
mrqs
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Hard to read, but it’s true. Hopefully, Microsoft and third-party developers will fortunately continue to push the boundaries. It’s strange to think that the most striking games of this generation won’t most likely be from PlayStation’s first-party studios.
RodriGames40
Member
Decent leap, but no UE5. I think that sums up Sony's efforts so far this gen very well and further proves it's all about RTGI this time around, any other improvements are an afterthought this generation.
GymWolf
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This is Delsin from Sucker Punch's first game 10 whole years ago.
And it clearly looks worse than deacon in that pic, and days gone is a much larger game with a way larger cast of characters.
I was at least expecting metahuman level of characters in a fully nextgen game from a first party sony, especially after hfw used them almost 3 years ago in a damn crossgen game, we should have even better stuff than that, don't you think?
And it's not just the characters, the overall texture work is just not enough of a jump, i know you care more about rtx stuff, but look at it from the point of view of people with different priorities when it comes to graphic.
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GymWolf
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Balducci30
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Yeah I’m not seeing the huge leap, looks around spider man 2 level to me - is this supposed to be running on the pro?The generational difference
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RodriGames40
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Regular PS5. It's said when the trailer just starts.