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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
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GymWolf
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Women have more perfect skin than men, asian women even more, that's probably why she look undetailed.
same engine, same face scanning tech, same game, 2 real actors
one look like a vg character, the other look like a real dude.
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Represent.
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There is a 100% chance TLOU 3 will top everything. Its TLOU, everything is top quality throughout the franchise. It wont come out looking last gen, too important of a name
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GymWolf
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sncvsrtoip
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Xtib81
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At this point I feel like it's ps6 territory, at least before it becomes somewhat standard.
Side note : lip Sync still looks off in this video.
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Kaiserstark
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This short film was made by 3Lateral and you will find the exact same tech in HFW and DS2 because they were are also working on these games.
Luipadre
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Yeah probably around september is my guess
GymWolf
Gold Member
Yeah but that character still looks better, don't you think? so games still haven't catch up yet with the best that metahuman can offer, my bad if i said ue5.
Yeah but do we know if ND is still the old ND?
Kaiserstark
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We already know that PlayStation will not release any big games for this fiscal year but expect to release several of them for the next two fiscal years.
Yotei could release in the summer like the first one, DS2 will probably release after the TGS of next year.
Sony also appears to still have at least one big unannounced game for next year that will likely be revealed in a future State of Play.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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You mean like LoU Part 1 "built from the ground up on Playstation 5" Remake? That project has to make you wonder just a little bit about what we should expect from ND in the future. Druckman and his cohorts were all top happy to lie their faces off to us about that game. I don't care if it started out by Bend and was finished by ND or if it was not an "important" release. It was sold to us as if it was a full blown Last of Us game, at full price. At the very least that tells me we're dealing with a different Naughty Dog today as they used to have more pride than that.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Has anyone here picked up FC 25 and can report on how it looks with the new RT lighting?
Represent.
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That project was made by a small team of new hires, not the whole team. has nothing to do with the quality output. Also, the game looked amazing for what it was.
Watch the GROUNDED TLOU2 documentary, it’s clear they take their reputation seriously and want b anything ND/TLOU related to be best-in-class.
Not worried about their next project at all
Audiophile
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My only issue with DS2 (mentioned this before...); is the accuracy of the DoF (Depth of Field). The characters all still have that glaring bloom/glow around them here -- particularly on hair and faces -- and it completely breaks an otherwise great looking image.
Hopefully with the Pro they can use that extra bandwidth and GPU cache to ~double the accuracy and minimise this. I'm pretty sure a couple devs showing of Pro upgrades for their titles have mentioned doing this sorta thing. So fingers-crossed...
Hopefully with the Pro they can use that extra bandwidth and GPU cache to ~double the accuracy and minimise this. I'm pretty sure a couple devs showing of Pro upgrades for their titles have mentioned doing this sorta thing. So fingers-crossed...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
GG working on a GaaS. Horizon 3 is likely a PS6 cross gen game at this point.
What a disaster.
What a disaster.
Kaiserstark
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Horizon Online has its own team, they have been working on it for several years already. Guerrilla has increase its workforce to be able to work on two projects at the same time.
With current development times and the fact that HFW was released in 2022, there is no world that exists where the game could be released before 2027 even if their multiplayer game did not exist that would not change the problem.
Even for CD Projekt, the next The Witcher is still not in full production, so that means it won't be released at least before 2027.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Thats what they said about Naughty Dog. Factions had its own team. TLOU1 remake was made by interns. Their next game is deep in development blah blah blah. We are 4.5 years in and still not a single screenshot for their next game.
A 100 person team from Sucker Punch released a trailer before they did.
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Msamy
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Sony mangers and ahead of them that cunt hirman hulst searching everyday about how they fuck themselves and playstation brand alongside them, fuck those cunts
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
2025? Dude all these games are getting delayed to 2026. GTA, Ghost of Yotei, Death Stranding 2. Everyone of these games has a AC shadows and Kingdom come delay written all over them.
Open world games need like 6-12 months of QA time AFTER they have been finished. Zelda and FF16 devs talked about how they got the games done almost a year ahead of time and just spent the rest of time fixing bugs and polishing the game. They might be done with dev by 2025 but just like with AC shadows, they will realize that its not enough.
Is this what you hoping for?
The new engine update on the pro is tailored make for Kojima. It might be the best looking game cutscene wise at 30fps. At 60 fps gameplay, I think it will be one of the best looking one.
Msamy
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As you said, pretty sure ds2 and ghost 2 will delayed to early-mid 2026,, also for gta vi there is a strong possibility
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Mobilemofo
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I can't help shake the feeling that GoY is a sort of dlc add on rather than a full on sequel. Regardless, it looks beautiful in motion. Someone mentioned the horses looking robotic? 
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Lol Stellar Blade devs added boob simulation. They no longer clip and have accurate simulation when touching arms and squeezing them together.
This in the same update that added skirt physics for it to blow in the wind exposing her panties.
Game still looks like a souped up PS3 era game but priorities....
This in the same update that added skirt physics for it to blow in the wind exposing her panties.
Game still looks like a souped up PS3 era game but priorities....
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
One good thing about Ghost Of Yotei is that the image quality isnt a pristine native 4k.
I can see a lot of artifacts in this official shot especially on the protagonist. That means its probably being reconstructed somehow and the era of native 4k sony exclusives is over. And we can finally get them to utilize the full GPU power on visual fidelity instead of just rendering 8 million pixels.
The other screenshots look really clean so i might be wrong and seeing things. Did DF say what resolution this thing was running on?
I can see a lot of artifacts in this official shot especially on the protagonist. That means its probably being reconstructed somehow and the era of native 4k sony exclusives is over. And we can finally get them to utilize the full GPU power on visual fidelity instead of just rendering 8 million pixels.
The other screenshots look really clean so i might be wrong and seeing things. Did DF say what resolution this thing was running on?
Xtib81
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I'm quite confident DS2 will release in 2025. It will have been 6 years of development. Unless it's very different from DS1, the game doesn't have a lot of complex systems.
Msamy
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Radical_3d
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I should call Callisto Protocol.Women have more perfect skin than men, asian women even more, that's probably why she look undetailed.
same engine, same face scanning tech, same game, 2 real actors
one look like a vg character, the other look like a real dude.
Audiophile
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I love this brief overexposed effect in Star wars as you exit interiors into mid day conditions.
Honestly, if GoT can have this level of asset fidelity and material work in their towns, i will be happy. It looks so dense and full of detail, im honestly blown away by it despite it not looking as good as black myth or hellblade or the matrix awakens. It's a clear leap in visual fidelity thanks to the lighting, materials, and model work, and im hopeful Ghost of Yotei can come close to this.
Honestly, if GoT can have this level of asset fidelity and material work in their towns, i will be happy. It looks so dense and full of detail, im honestly blown away by it despite it not looking as good as black myth or hellblade or the matrix awakens. It's a clear leap in visual fidelity thanks to the lighting, materials, and model work, and im hopeful Ghost of Yotei can come close to this.
Yup, that's the stuff!
Looks so much better.
Hopefully it carries over to DS2.
Sepparation looks pretty clean in DS2. Maybe it's affected by some other factors in some scenes.
Luipadre
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I love this brief overexposed effect in Star wars as you exit interiors into mid day conditions.
Honestly, if GoT can have this level of asset fidelity and material work in their towns, i will be happy. It looks so dense and full of detail, im honestly blown away by it despite it not looking as good as black myth or hellblade or the matrix awakens. It's a clear leap in visual fidelity thanks to the lighting, materials, and model work, and im hopeful Ghost of Yotei can come close to this.
Gonna play this in november on the Pro. Should look great
I love this brief overexposed effect in Star wars as you exit interiors into mid day conditions.
Honestly, if GoT can have this level of asset fidelity and material work in their towns, i will be happy. It looks so dense and full of detail, im honestly blown away by it despite it not looking as good as black myth or hellblade or the matrix awakens. It's a clear leap in visual fidelity thanks to the lighting, materials, and model work, and im hopeful Ghost of Yotei can come close to this.
Best open world environment i've seen in a game, hands down.
AW_CL
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One good thing about Ghost Of Yotei is that the image quality isnt a pristine native 4k.
I can see a lot of artifacts in this official shot especially on the protagonist. That means its probably being reconstructed somehow and the era of native 4k sony exclusives is over. And we can finally get them to utilize the full GPU power on visual fidelity instead of just rendering 8 million pixels.
The other screenshots look really clean so i might be wrong and seeing things. Did DF say what resolution this thing was running on?
The level of detail in the distance is impressive.
hinch7
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I don't think we need to worry. Rockstar don't do bullshots and bs target renders for their reveals and games. We usually get what is advertised - like in their GTA 4 and 5 trailers.
And same. Forget about targeting 60fps for the weak specs in consoles. Go all out on physics, density and fidelity.
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Trilobit
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The level of detail in the distance is impressive.
I first thought that was a shot of the fuckin' yellow bird that ruined exploration. I really hope they fed it to the foxes.
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vivftp
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The level of detail in the distance is impressive.
Quite impressive, especially on base PS5. That one official screenshot of Atsu staring at the landscape from near the end of the trailer is full of so much detail when you zoom in. You can see hidden structures in the trees, waterfalls in the distance.... it all looks so good!
I also played around with Google street view and they happened to have an angle that roughly matched that one angle from the trailer with the horses. The sense of scale and the draw distance are amazing. I'm VERY excited to play this on the Pro.
During ship scene in Death Stranding 2, there is something off with character lighting.
While the ship itself is having kinda greenish tint, the characters are blue/grey. They looks like theire copy-pasted to location with diffetent lighting temperature. Also those cool caustics, you can see on the walls, dont seem to affect characters at all.
While the ship itself is having kinda greenish tint, the characters are blue/grey. They looks like theire copy-pasted to location with diffetent lighting temperature. Also those cool caustics, you can see on the walls, dont seem to affect characters at all.
vivftp
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That's the effect when they're on the beach. The ship can travel between the normal world and the beach. People appear blue when on the other side
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Bojji
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They even showed RDR2 on PS4 pro with that dog shit reconstruction while they could have used pristine 4k Xbox one x version.
They are surprisingly honest so far.
Bitstream
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Such depth. Such beauty.
This immediately reminded me of the HD demo footage you see walking past a wall of tvs at the store.
Lethal01
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Quite impressive, especially on base PS5. That one official screenshot of Atsu staring at the landscape from near the end of the trailer is full of so much detail when you zoom in. You can see hidden structures in the trees, waterfalls in the distance.... it all looks so good!
I also played around with Google street view and they happened to have an angle that roughly matched that one angle from the trailer with the horses. The sense of scale and the draw distance are amazing. I'm VERY excited to play this on the Pro.
As long as you dont aim for realism, making a game look better than real life is easy.
Bitstream
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Shouldn't that be appreciated though? Let video games take you some place you can't otherwise go.
Lethal01
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???
You say that like I was joking or being sarcastic when I've already stated that I like the look of Zelda more than Wukong.
Bitstream
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Ah, I see, Im' with you. A style and a vibe matter more than just going for realism all the time.
JCreasy
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Women have more perfect skin than men, asian women even more, that's probably why she look undetailed.
same engine, same face scanning tech, same game, 2 real actors
one look like a vg character, the other look like a real dude.
Callisto Protocol looked SO GOOD!
Are shadows playing a role here?
Revisiting the 1943 reveal trailer. Why do the faces look THIS good? The female character here has an equally blemishless face, but somehow it ends up looking almost photorealistic. Could it possibly be self-shadowing? Is Lumen helping the skin materials look more realistic?
I hope Guerrilla is prioritizing lighting in their Decima upgrade.
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Hawking Radiation
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I think Horizon Zero Dawn was initially developed to have some sort of multiplayer component. Just makes no sense for them to take this long to release one since the initial concept was meant to include it.
Either way Sony 1st Party output this gen is dog shit. I have no hope for anything substantial to drop in 2025.
Also fuck Herman Hulst.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I went back to watch the DF video on the PS5 version of GoT and while it looks great most of the time, this draw distance made me laugh.
Just fixing this with higher fidelity trees and foliage should go a long way towards a more next gen presentation.
The lighting style is also much more cartoony in the game. Much more than i remember. Yotei is a substantial leap in comparison.
Yes, these games arent a massive leap like we anticipated but they will look substantially different when put side by side.
Just fixing this with higher fidelity trees and foliage should go a long way towards a more next gen presentation.
The lighting style is also much more cartoony in the game. Much more than i remember. Yotei is a substantial leap in comparison.
Yes, these games arent a massive leap like we anticipated but they will look substantially different when put side by side.
ChiefDada
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I went back to watch the DF video on the PS5 version of GoT and while it looks great most of the time, this draw distance made me laugh.
Just fixing this with higher fidelity trees and foliage should go a long way towards a more next gen presentation.
The lighting style is also much more cartoony in the game. Much more than i remember. Yotei is a substantial leap in comparison.
Yes, these games arent a massive leap like we anticipated but they will look substantially different when put side by side.
Such harsh lighting in those PS4 shots where the landscape is either glowing or covered in the unnatural sharp shadows of the trees. Compare to Yotei with the soft. pleasant shadows. Reminds me a good deal of FFXVI best areas, although I pray Yotei is 1000x more consistent
Kaiserstark
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Sucker Punch is making sequel, Naughty Dog a new IP. With a new IP, there is always a factor of experimentation to take into account to find the right formula so it will always take more time.
Now for most of its games Sony seems to want to unveil them only a year before their release so it's not surprising that we haven't seen anything of the Naughty Dog game yet.
Six or seven years of development for a new IP is pretty much the norm so we could estimate that the ND game will be released in 2026-2027.
It's not exactly that when Guerrilla started prototyping for Horizon, they had an idea for co-op but they left that idea aside because Horizon was already an ambitious project for thème.
Which in itself is not very surprising because when you see Horizon, it's hard not to think of Monster Hunter and that a game in this genre could be successful if it's done well.
Guerrilla publicly stated in December 2022 that they had created a new team internally and are launching a major recruitment campaign for this team so we can assume that the release window for the game is probably something like late 2025-2026.