Gravity Falls S2 |OT| Mysteries, tall gingers & endless sweaters (series finale 2/15)
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I imagine they're not going to say as Standards & Practices won't allow it.
She underwent a violent Pavlovian conditioning. I imagine she hears the bell, then she would get hit. This would keep happening to the point that she would cower every time the bell rang.
jediyoshi
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All headcanon. There's a million ways conditioning could play out, and a million more that don't involve actively affecting the thing in question.
Baron von Loathsome
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Yeah, but with that kind of reaction,
I can't imagine the associated punishment not being something traumatic.
Admiral Woofington
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It seems more like she was simply obedient as when she heard the bell in front of Dipper she blushed. It's Pavlovian but traumatic? Seems like a bit of a stretch for a kid's show
Baron von Loathsome
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To be fair, it's also a stretch for a kid's show to show blood dripping in large quantities from the displayed heads of dead animals.
Pop-O-Matic
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This is the same kids show that, in just this episode alone, featured
blood pouring from taxidermy animal heads
a man getting his head spit open by an axe
Admiral Woofington
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Yes and kid shows have long since proven that they can get away with violence and related topics if done right.
Psychological torturing your child and leaving her with traumatic issues due to violence
SigmasonicX
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Can we agree that Pacifica got some sort of conditioning, violent or not, that hints at uncomfortable things about her upbringing?
And the episode has aired, I don't think we need spoiler bars.
And the episode has aired, I don't think we need spoiler bars.
Baron von Loathsome
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Likewise, there's a difference between showing a character bleeding as a natural result of some sort injury and showing blood utilized in a supernatural horror-style fashion without some sort of "it's ketchup!" justification. I haven never seen the latter in any other kids' show.
Traumatic abuse
Admiral Woofington
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We'll have to agree to disagree as the blood is pretty extreme but since it came from furniture/decorations and it came from a horror place that's probably how they got past the censors. I can't see him having Pacifica being straight up tortured/physically hurt.
Whether the conditioning is physical or not is beside the point to me. The horror of this is that they are treating their own daughter inhumanely, cultivating a response that causes her evident discomfort just so they have a way to suppress her will. Physical torture might have been more visually horrific, but the extreme dehumanization that was shown here to their own daughter is the same kind that would be on display had Pacifica been physically punished as part of the conditioning. The point is they terrorize their child into obedience. They made her into their slave. It's disgusting no matter which way you cut it.
Admiral Woofington
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Yeah I really do hope Pacifica continues being friends with Dipper. He doesn't really have a friend his own age and Mabel has 2. Give poor ol dipper a friend/possible ship
That's both adorable and completely messed up.
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I haven't looked into it but apparently the "whisper" at the end is saying something different? Was this ever confirmed or just wishful thinking from peeps wanting the shortened intro to mean something?
That's both adorable and completely messed up.
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I haven't looked into it but apparently the "whisper" at the end is saying something different? Was this ever confirmed or just wishful thinking from peeps wanting the shortened intro to mean something?
Hmm i'm not sure if it actually made more room for commercials though as the episode is around the same length as the previous nine at around 22 minutes long. So more room for content maybe.
Alex Hirsch on the shortened theme this week.
"We shortened the theme this week to make the ep longer. We wont always do that but when we do expect a bigger episode!"
"We shortened the theme this week to make the ep longer. We wont always do that but when we do expect a bigger episode!"
TheGreatDirector
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Yeah it makes sense. In one episode we saw what we thought was a relatively flat character given a ton of depth and a redemption arc not to mention all of the stuff at the end.
Tizoc
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Fair enough then.
THIS EPISODE WAS AWESOME
THAT ENDING WAS AWESOME
I love how this episode builds on so many of the previous developments of the show. Dipper is finally becoming an actual expert on the supernatural after reading the book so much. The absence of the Society of the Blind Eye means supernatural events show up in the news now. Dipper references the Northwest family history lie in passing. Pacifica has mellowed out towards the Pines a lot after Golf War.
This continuity doesn't make the show too confusing, it just gives it a sense of life and place because the events of previous episodes aren't outright ignored.
THAT ENDING WAS AWESOME
I love how this episode builds on so many of the previous developments of the show. Dipper is finally becoming an actual expert on the supernatural after reading the book so much. The absence of the Society of the Blind Eye means supernatural events show up in the news now. Dipper references the Northwest family history lie in passing. Pacifica has mellowed out towards the Pines a lot after Golf War.
McGuckett fixes the broken laptop.
This continuity doesn't make the show too confusing, it just gives it a sense of life and place because the events of previous episodes aren't outright ignored.
HP_Wuvcraft
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IT'S GOING DOWN.
Are you talking about on the Bill Cipher wheel? How so?
picture in the hidden space was of a lama
Admiral Woofington
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Not quite STAT, but better late than never, right?
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thank you lol
MasterOfPastures
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That's both adorable and completely messed up.
A good gif when someone on the gaming side is starting to... disingenuously wander off topic.
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Admiral Woofington
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I'm sure it has been posted ages ago but just in case have you guys seen Graweedy Falls?
Why is it on Disney XD? Why are any new animated shows on there?
Why do they keep killing shows by feeding them to XD just to struggle to justify having a premium cable network?
TheGreatDirector
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Admiral Woofington
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Ultimadrago
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Mabel plot aside, it was an enjoyable episode. I wish we didn't have to wait so long for it, but ah well, at least it came. The
in the beginning was certainly another "THIS IS ON DISNEY?!" moment for me. Good stuff.
animal scene
Where is Disney XD an premium channel?
bitesnintendog
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It's usually placed in a higher package than basic cable.
HP_Wuvcraft
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It's a fucking cartoon.
Emperor_Uriel
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More cartoons should aspire to be this subversive, to push this many boundaries. Every episode further cements this, along with Over the Garden Wall, as one of the very few essential cartoons of the 2010s.
Not all rich people. All really rich people.
Not all rich people. All really rich people.
#NotAllRichPeople
Who the hell goes out to defend rich people? They don't need a spokesman, they can stuff their ears with gold laden ear plugs and pretend the world outside their bubble doesn't exist as usual.
GRAVITY FALLS IS EEEEVIL!
Alex posted this on Twitter. He followed up saying that Gideon will grow up into that guy.
Alex posted this on Twitter. He followed up saying that Gideon will grow up into that guy.
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