Guerrilla: GG's new IP won't be at E3 - not ready to show yet

Do people even care about FF that much anymore? I think I'd rather see FF15 more than FF7.

FF7 means a lot to a ton of people.
For the majority of FF fans in the West, FF7 was their first. For some it wasn't just their first FF, but their first JRPG.
The amount of nostalgia for that game is insane- and I firmly believe it's one of the very few games that could get a full remake and pull ridiculous sales figures.

The game was an event in 1997 and was a major key, worldwide, to upstart Sony owning that next two generations with the Playstation brand.

How many games could you simply dim the lights of a conference, play the opening notes of an opening theme, show a future date, and have the place go ape shit?
I can only think of a handful, to be honest, and FF7 is one of them.

People would care- and with the game's 20 year anniversary coming up in 2017, you never know. It would be an intimidating project for sure- but with the right amount of help I can definitely see it happening. If GAF's own Verendus is to be believed, it is happening.
 
I think this conference will just be Uncharted 4, The Order, Project Beasts and The Last Guardian. That is still not a bad line up. On paper that sounds bad, but I bet each individual game will blow people away, for example Uncharted 4 isn't getting much hype, but I bet the Gameplay reveal will get GAF talking.

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I think this conference will just be Uncharted 4, The Order, Project Beasts and The Last Guardian. That is still not a bad line up. On paper that sounds bad, but I bet each individual game will blow people away, for example Uncharted 4 isn't getting much hype, but I bet the Gameplay reveal will get GAF talking.

Yes, that is horrible on paper.

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I disagree halo 5 and uncharted 4 are megatons.
A big game you are excited for =/= megaton. Just like Uncharted 5 and Halo 6, 7, 8, 9 aren't megatons because I am already aware of and expect their announcement. Now if either of those had some kind of twist or something -- that's different.
You literally just proved my point. Beast isn't a megaton to me.
That doesn't matter. Water can be seven parts hydrogen and four parts oxygen to you if you want, but that doesn't make it true. There needs to be an element of, I don't know, subversiveness (the right word isn't coming to mind) about certain game reveals. Maybe a betrayal, a money-hat -- something that isn't intuitive or blatantly obvious. I haven't played DS or DS, but the PB is still a big deal even if it isn't for you. We have 400 pages from low-res screenshots and .gifs. The Uncharted 4 |OT| might not be that long. I could give a fuck about JRPGs, but a FFVII remake would also be a big deal. I'm not arguing for an objective definition of a megaton, but we could probably reach one that is operational and works within the context of NeoGAF's demographic. RDR2 or BC3 would probably be the biggest reveals ever for me, but RDR2 is only a matter of time. BC3 I think has a bit more weight even if it is less relevant because fans of the franchise no longer believe it'll happen.
 
By definition, you're not supposed to know what the showstoppers or megatons are...

My point is more that right now you can't even speculate that much as to what they'll have, because a number of 1st party development teams have already bowed out. I suppose it's possible that they might announce a big 3rd party exclusive.

Everquest Next for PS4 might be an interesting thing to focus on - particularly if they do a big info dump about the game's more tantalizing features.
 
I think this conference will just be Uncharted 4, The Order, Project Beasts and The Last Guardian. That is still not a bad line up. On paper that sounds bad, but I bet each individual game will blow people away, for example Uncharted 4 isn't getting much hype, but I bet the Gameplay reveal will get GAF talking.

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My point is more that right now you can't even speculate that much as to what they'll have, because a number of 1st party development teams have already bowed out. I suppose it's possible that they might announce a big 3rd party exclusive.

Everquest Next for PS4 might be an interesting thing to focus on - particularly if they do a big info dump about the game's more tantalizing features.
A megaton, by definition, isn't predicted, so looking at Sony's studios and saying "Well, we know GoW4, GT7, Entwined and GG's RPG can't be there" just means those things can't be megatons anyway.

It's something we didn't see coming, that can be because Sony formed a studio in secret, built a second team within a studio in secret (like with TLoU), they're working with a third party we didn't know about (as Beast Souls would have been) or it's just a third party title.
 
My point is more that right now you can't even speculate that much as to what they'll have, because a number of 1st party development teams have already bowed out. I suppose it's possible that they might announce a big 3rd party exclusive.

Everquest Next for PS4 might be an interesting thing to focus on - particularly if they do a big info dump about the game's more tantalizing features.

Aside from not trusting anything ANY developer says at this point in time, there's only really two developers that have basically come out and said they aren't planning on showing anything, and GG's statement could easily be applied to BEFORE E3.

The way I see it, Sony has 1.5-2hrs of conference and they are live streaming it to theaters all around the country. Do you really think they don't have anything to show? Aside from the Project Beast leak, they've been incredibly tight-lipped. All we've heard are "insider" rumors.
 
I think this conference will just be Uncharted 4, The Order, Project Beasts and The Last Guardian. That is still not a bad line up. On paper that sounds bad, but I bet each individual game will blow people away, for example Uncharted 4 isn't getting much hype, but I bet the Gameplay reveal will get GAF talking.

Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,
 
I have no interest in DriveClub and at this point it is the only major 1st party PS4 release Sony has left. They should be happy it got delayed a year given how horrible their release schedule would look otherwise. I'm still looking forward to TLOU Remastered and the likely inFamous: Second Son DLC, but aside from that it will be a super disappointing Fall. (really thought The Order and perhaps Uncharted would have made it this year...)

As far as E3 is concerned, they better show Uncharted and Project Beast. (TLG might as well not exist for me at this point)
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,
What do you mean by 'needs'? Needs in order to do what?
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,
Sounds like your expectations are fucked. Then again, you're bound to be "disappointed" by anything Sony does. Any excuse to concern troll.
 
Holy shit some of the doom and gloom going on.
It's amazing the contrast between Sony and MS E3 threads around here recently:

Sony: "None of their studios are showing up. Project Beast has already leaked. Sony's cocky now. It's over. I might just go ahead and sell my PS4 now. Sony lost E3 before it has started."

MS: "Dude, it's going to be megaton after megaton. RE7. ME4. Fallout 4. Shenmue 3. Red Dead 2. BLINX: The Return. Vanquish 2. All exclusive. Phil Spencer gonna hand out free X1s to everyone! MS is back, baby!"

Monday's going to be fun- one way or another. :p

Yup, every year it's the same thing, dat infinite war-chest.

FF7 means a lot to a ton of people.
For the majority of FF fans in the West, FF7 was their first. For some it wasn't just their first FF, but their first JRPG.
The amount of nostalgia for that game is insane- and I firmly believe it's one of the very few games that could get a full remake and pull ridiculous sales figures.

The game was an event in 1997 and was a major key, worldwide, to upstart Sony owning that next two generations with the Playstation brand.

How many games could you simply dim the lights of a conference, play the opening notes of an opening theme, show a future date, and have the place go ape shit?
I can only think of a handful, to be honest, and FF7 is one of them.

People would care- and with the game's 20 year anniversary coming up in 2017, you never know. It would be an intimidating project for sure- but with the right amount of help I can definitely see it happening. If GAF's own Verendus is to be believed, it is happening.

This. Everything would be drowned out with just the first couple of notes of the opening, the amount of noise in such a room would probably be insane.
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,
Maybe I have really low expectations but that's a good exclusive line up IMO. Especially if those are all for 2015 with Rime and Shadow of the Beast included...
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,
The ... what?
 
Yup, every year it's the same thing, dat infinite war-chest.



This. Everything would be drowned out with just the first couple of notes of the opening, the amount of noise in such a room would probably be insane.

I didn't get the KH3 yelling and howling last year, so its probably not for me.
 
The way I see it, Sony has 1.5-2hrs of conference and they are live streaming it to theaters all around the country. Do you really think they don't have anything to show?

That's what seems so puzzling to me. They've hyped this whole event up so much, and done many things to promote it. But there's also every outward indication that their first party studios are in a bit of disarray.

There's always the possibility that they're just vastly overestimating the appeal of something like a God of War teaser (or a teaser for any far-off game). After last year, I think people tend to forget that Sony fumbles with press conferences about as often as they knock it out of the park. It was only about 13 months ago that they thought a Media Molecule puppet show was an appropriate use of time for an event garnering massive mainstream attention.

I'm certainly hoping that it's some kind of insane 3rd party thing, if there is a truly mindblowing announcement to be made.
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,

You would be disappointed even if they show Half Life 3,TLG,FF7 remake and Crash Bandicoot reboot.
 
I think this conference will just be Uncharted 4, The Order, Project Beasts and The Last Guardian. That is still not a bad line up. On paper that sounds bad, but I bet each individual game will blow people away, for example Uncharted 4 isn't getting much hype, but I bet the Gameplay reveal will get GAF talking.
I'm laughing my ass off here.
Yeah, "not bad". Sounds totally "bad on paper".
lmao
 
What setbacks are those?

Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015. I wouldn't say that's a "myriad" of setbacks mind you, but it has certainly cast some doubt on prospects for this year.
 
Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015.

Talent leave companies, especially at the turn of a new gen. They also join new companies. It happened during the ps2-3 transition too..look how horrible Naughty Dog ended up because of it!

Projects get cancelled. If the rumors are true the game was a mess. it's a set back for sure but nothing unique to a single company.

Sony and delaying games is like me eating breakfast. Nothing unusual nor something that will severely harm them.
 
You would be disappointed even if they show Half Life 3,TLG,FF7 remake and Crash Bandicoot reboot.

LOL. Shit, so would I. Not everyone plays the same games. Only game in a list like that which catches my eye is FF7. I really want TLG to come out mainly so I can stop hearing people ask for it.

So yeah, sounds like I'm back to the usual--E3 impresses a ton of people and bores the shit out of me. >_<

Talent leave companies, especially at the turn of a new gen. They also join new companies. It happened during the ps2-3 transition too..look how horrible Naughty Dog ended up because of it!

Projects get cancelled. If the rumors are true the game was a mess. it's a set back for sure but nothing unique to a single company.

Sony and delaying games is like me eating breakfast. Nothing unusual nor something that will severely harm them.

Having an explanation for setbacks does not mean they didn't happen. Though the ND thing is blown out of proportion, that's true.
 
Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015.
Cancelling a game they think is bad, essentially firing Amy Hennig and giving UC4 to TLoU directors, and delaying The Order a few months doesn't seem like a concerning series of setbacks. I can't imagine Sony is sweating any of those things. The SSM thing was a moneypit, and they won't be happy about that, but it's not going to affect their portfolio for the audience, SSM have only put out GoW games for years, and they will still ship GoW4.
Stig's game is only notable because we heard about it, otherwise nothing would have been lost and no one would have known about it, certainly the vast majority of the PlayStation audience have no idea that project existed.
 
Dude, that would be a fairly meager lineup.

Sony, needs a lot more than that after the myriad of setbacks they've recently suffered.

Not to mention, not one of those games is a "new" announcement.

3 out of 4 were officially announced already and Project Beast has been leaked to hell and back,

can we have one thread without your concern trolling? it's like every thread on upcoming sony is tainted with this rubbish
 
Okay so that's now Media Molecule and Guerrilla Games saying they won't be at E3. Coincidentally both are based in the EU so we'll see them at Gamescom instead.

I don't think GG's new IP will be playable or have a major presence on the showfloor. I think we'll probably get a trailer that probably isn't going to be gameplay and it'll be just a "Well we're doing this" kind of trailer similar to Mortal Kombat X's trailer earlier this week.
 
Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015.
DOOMED. Games have never been delayed, people have never moved around in the industry, and games have CERTAINLY never been cancelled.

SOONY IS DOOMED.
 
Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015. I wouldn't say that's a "myriad" of setbacks mind you, but it has certainly cast some doubt on prospects for this year.

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Having to cancel the massive Sony Santa Monica game that had been in production for years, losing a lot of top talent at Naughty Dog, delaying The Order into 2015.

That doesn't sound like a myriad of setbacks to me, and it's not something uncommon in the industry. Whatever project Black Tusk was working on got canned when they took over Gears, there have been a number of high profile departures from 343, Quantum Break got delayed to 2015...
 
I think taking note of the question in which the developer was answering is very important.

The Question: Any chance we get a glimpse into your new IP 'BEFORE' E3

Answer: ''No, we won't be showing it right now. Simple reason: we are confident enough in the game, but it's not something we can show and expect reasonable feedback. There is simply a lot of work that we need to do before we show it to our fans''.

The question was never, ''are you showing it at E3?''
 
Guys, c'mon. I'm a Sony fan too, but if that SSM game was really scheduled for this fall and it got canceled, that's definitely a set back. That was pretty much the kind of thing you hope for--it gets announced at E3, and then it hits in the holiday after a very short hype cycle. Sony sunk millions into that project with the intent of having it pay off this fall, and now it's gone? Yeah. That's a problem.
 
Having an explanation for setbacks does not mean they didn't happen. Though the ND thing is blown out of proportion, that's true.

I don't think you understand my point. I'm not trying to 'explain' any setback..I'm saying these aren't setbacks of any importance or setbacks at all in the grand scheme of things. Only thing that can be considered a setback of any significance is the stig's game getting cancelled but since we had no idea what the hell it was the fans won't be affected by it.

Tell me this...you think Naughty Dog suffered last gen? Because major talent left the studio at the start of it too. A studio of that caliber doesn't have any trouble acquiring new talent. A good example is Corrine Yu. Besides UC4 is in the hands of TLOU leads. My hopes and expectations for the game hasn't been unsettled one bit.
 
Guys, c'mon. I'm a Sony fan too, but if that SSM game was really scheduled for this fall and it got canceled, that's definitely a set back. That was pretty much the kind of thing you hope for--it gets announced at E3, and then it hits in the holiday after a very short hype cycle. Sony sunk millions into that project with the intent of having it pay off this fall, and now it's gone? Yeah. That's a problem.
What says it was ever destined for this fall? The rumor seems to be it was never any good, it never got the okay to even be announced, there's no reason to think it was ever shipping this year.
 
FF7 means a lot to a ton of people.
For the majority of FF fans in the West, FF7 was their first. For some it wasn't just their first FF, but their first JRPG.
The amount of nostalgia for that game is insane- and I firmly believe it's one of the very few games that could get a full remake and pull ridiculous sales figures.

The game was an event in 1997 and was a major key, worldwide, to upstart Sony owning that next two generations with the Playstation brand.

How many games could you simply dim the lights of a conference, play the opening notes of an opening theme, show a future date, and have the place go ape shit?
I can only think of a handful, to be honest, and FF7 is one of them.

People would care- and with the game's 20 year anniversary coming up in 2017, you never know. It would be an intimidating project for sure- but with the right amount of help I can definitely see it happening. If GAF's own Verendus is to be believed, it is happening.

Perfectly summed up, FF7 was my first FF game, And from then i never looked back with JRPG games. FF7 will always be the best game ever for me, So a remake would just be insane.
 
Damn. If the trailer is ready GG might still show it. Lets see...

Unless Sony wants to avoid another situation like The Order, and personally I would rather them hold off. We know it exists, we know it's coming, who cares if they show the trailer at E3 two or three years before the game comes out? I say wait until they have a concrete release window (i.e. the game is far enough along that it will be ready for release in Q3 2016) then show the trailer and officially announce the game when they know that. Not showing some incredibly early footage because it will help to generate console sales numbers.
 
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