Neat! I'm hyped for Marshal Firebrand.
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Guild Wars 2 - Path of Fire |OT| Mount and Shining Blade
- Thread starter Massicot
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Neat! I'm hyped for Marshal Firebrand.
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Like a couple hours ago I was happy to finally see a damage number above 20k on my ranger using soulbeast. I hate this.
Noisy Ninj4
Member
For starters, thieves are one of the squishier classes in the game. If you're running high offensive/low defense stats on them, pve content can be pretty punishing if you make any mistakes. They aren't bad, per se, but you need to be fast to really make use of them.
It may also be the traits or playstyle you're using. Are you running with a shortbow (good defensive weapon) or making use of blinding fields and dodges?
You only get shortbow + dagger / dagger with the boost, so running that at the moment. The problem with shortbow is that its not that high damage.
I think some of it is just getting used to the class (going from 20 to 80 is a big jump) and the gear provided making things tricky, along with the lack of an elite spec.
I had a look for a good Solo pve build but couldnt find one - if anyone has any suggestions for a thief Id be most grateful!
Loads of people moaning about no metas. Jesus christ this community is a fussy bunch of bitches. Wahhhhh pof maps are boring no meta just bounties. Wahhhh.
Funny thing is these bounties and just exploring give so much materials and loot it beats tarrir in some cases. Ive got over 400 blue unidentified items ready to be opened and 100 of the yellow ones. Just by doing events and bounties and picking up sand n bleached skulls etc and ooening the key chests
Funny thing is these bounties and just exploring give so much materials and loot it beats tarrir in some cases. Ive got over 400 blue unidentified items ready to be opened and 100 of the yellow ones. Just by doing events and bounties and picking up sand n bleached skulls etc and ooening the key chests
Isaac Otherworld
Member
So story stuff but has anyone figured out how to change
Amnoon's Allegiance after you've picked? It doesn't just let you replay the story and make a different choice.
It seems similar to HoT's backpack choice, and there you had to play through the story with three different characters to complete each one. I'm assuming it's the same case here.
The conversion traits got changed recently and I'm not sure if it's intentional or not. That's why firebrand and weaver are posting such high numbers
Durrzerker
Banned
I'm actually looking at Spellbreaker.
That said, Sword/Axe Revenant certainly seems to have the constant aggression I liked. I'm all over people.
If there's no meta then there's less reason to go back to them after you've "finished" the content.
They probs skipped meta because there content is more lined up. Few weeks for people to finish story etc theb halloween. Few more weeks tying loose ends then wintersday then rolls into season 4. Season 4 is free with oath of fire but we arent waiting a year like with hot. Hot needed those metas are those maps woulda been barren..im.guessing its fine here cos season 4 is round corner
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Try Berserker- You don't have to use the Tourch. The berserker mode has synergy with regardless of build or weapons you use.
So does Spellbreaker, but Spellbreaker is slower, and it's more about waiting to use the counter.
You could also try a Staff/Shortbow Daredevil. I find the playstyle very aggressive. With a infitinite-dodge type build, you're dodging (3 dodges for daredevil) almost constantly. Because Daredevil are not high on hp, they require really marticulous aggressive and razor sharp attacks, followed by dodging out of harms way, and quickly in again.
Using Sigils that recover endurance, or weapon swap, helps with the shortbow which is excellent at manipulating distance. The Staff has a good AOE spread, no GDC.
Thief, like Assassin in GW1, rewards high level play but punishes mistakes. You die more, but if you're really fast, they are super rewarding.
Ele Dagger/Dagger also is very aggressive and highly mobile. They are not easy to play well, as they are short-medium ranged psuedo melee type affair. Your success is highly determined on being able to swap the four actionbars in junction and use the movement skills to get you in and out of trouble.
Reaper, is not "berserker fast" but it hits like a truck, has a lot of high level of self heals, and survivability. It's Reaper Shroud mode is very aggressive with a spin-to-win, and helicopter dick charge skill. You have a warrior-adrenaline type thing mechanic, where being in the thick of things allow you to charge the shroud effectively and get back into reaper mode and go bananas.
For the players who want the apeshit insane experience, Reaper is really hard to beat. Its downed skills are also powerful. It always feels like that being a Reaper is rewarding even when you buy more than you can chew. So you can play ballsy and still get away with it a lot of the time. If you try that shit on a greatsword ranger or thief, you're fucked.
I hope there will be meta maps in Season 4. Thankfully Season 4 is relatively soon. After Season 3, I am very excited.
I am okay with PoF not having meta maps though. It offers something different from HoT without invalidating it. I don't want HoT to be abandoned, and I still wanna run the HoT metas.
If they just made carbon copy maps with a different theme, it would impact HoT negatively. It shouldn't be that way. Both expansions should exist together, each giving a unique flair. Sort of like how Factions and Nightfall also had very different focuses and gave a unique spin on the core experience.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Do people not realize no meta means no schedule/time table? Meaning people can literally pick up and play. And you can get meta-like rewards for doing events anyway.
Durrzerker
Banned
Yup and ur not blocked out from parts of maps etc or skill points because a meta is happening
Or u wernt in map early enough so u miss out.
Really dont understand this rage over no meta.
human onion
Banned
The problem with meta maps is that the more that are added, the less chance of one in particular being done. All HOT maps, dry top and silverwastes, vanilla world bosses and Orr to some extent add to a lot of timers. That being said, I wish there were at least one new one. And hopefully we hear about raids and fractals for season 4 soon.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Yeah- If you think about it, Dragons Stand, as good as it is, is like wasted when the event is not going on. You have this entire zone, with a 2 hour down timer.
Something I'd like to see is an Event Combo Counter- Something like, the more events you complete on a map (gold rating) in a row, the higher the multiplier goes, and so does your reward.
So if a guild could go in and just say- they'll do rotations on the entire map and try to do as many events on the map as possible, that would reward knowing when, where and which events are going on. So if you could get 150-events done in 2 hours with effective coordination, you might get some extra spicy rewards.
Something I'd like to see is an Event Combo Counter- Something like, the more events you complete on a map (gold rating) in a row, the higher the multiplier goes, and so does your reward.
So if a guild could go in and just say- they'll do rotations on the entire map and try to do as many events on the map as possible, that would reward knowing when, where and which events are going on. So if you could get 150-events done in 2 hours with effective coordination, you might get some extra spicy rewards.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Dragon Stand didn't need two spit fire encounters and HoT just didn't' have the level of content to justify one entire map being a a massive event. If there was a Dragon Stand style map on top of what we already have for PoF I'd love it.
Why is it ? Its actually fun n different from oh noes a boss or commune.
Most people seem to be forgetting turning interactables in aswell.
I'd argue PoF is the only campaign that caters to fans of the original Guild Wars. Also, bonus points for each mount feeling very different, never had this much fun exploring maps since launch in 2012. Absolutely beautiful, lots of npc voice lines, and there's a ton of history and lore everywhere you look. ArenaNet has outdone themselves IMHO, my main concern is the endgame currently, what will I do after I complete the story and explore the maps..?
I bought both. Have barely checked out HoT. PoF has been pretty great. It's also kicked my ass several times as there's a big jump in difficulty between vanilla zones and PoF or HoT zones. I haven't even completed the personal story, so I'm completely lost on the story in PoF, but it's still somewhat interesting. I expect I'll be able to fill in the story holes by going back after I'm done with PoF, if I can remember all these names being thrown at me. I'm really liking the mounts and their added mobility. The new specialization (really enjoying Holosmith for Engineer) has been good too. You'll have to do the story to progress to new zones, but if you really enjoy exploring stuff, you may like PoF. Just be prepared for that difficulty spike.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Sniper (not mine) is a lot of fun. I didn't think I would like it, but I really do. Skill 5 makes you stationary and gives you a bunch of new specific skills. The damage is really good, but you cannot move while in this mode. When you're just running around shooting it feels more like a single-target warrior Rifle user.
They did a good job with it as its very different from anything else. I like how dodges turn into roll/evades when your stationary.
The class reminds me so much of SWTORs sniper
It's the most difficult MMO bar none. Most PvE content in the base game is super easy like in other MMOs, but the story missions- particularly getting all the bonus objectives and achievements is craazzzy difficult.
When GW2 came out, the dungeons were really bad because it was just a bunch of sponges. It's not fun to just wack on hp sponge mobs. So they've intensified how hard the mobs hit, making it really really hard. It shocks a lot of people once they get into HoT. You really have to fight for your life.
I remember going into Verdant Brink for the first time and getting ganged up by this pack of tiny "pocket" raptors in a few seconds.
Really loving how this expansion looks but I was a bit burned by Guild Wars 2 as a diehard Guild Wars 1 fan. Didn't finish the main story, didn't touch any of the Living World stuff and didn't even bother with Heart of Thorns. Is this just going to be more Guild Wars 2 or has the game experienced any major overhauls or retooling since 2013/2014? If I do end up getting it, can I just start the Path of Fire campaign if I already have level 80 characters?
Here is the thing. Most people like having structure. It's in our nature really. Meta events offered structure. It was a big fat green arrow saying 'hey you, do this thing here'.
From my early impressions of doing bounties and events in the new maps so far, I think they will end up being more lucrative and rewarding to do than the HoT meta events, outside of doing the HoT metas for legendary mats. However, it requires the players coming up with their own goals and their own structure.
That's a lot to summarize in one post. But I'll give you the incredibly short version.
The game still largely feels the same. I'm not going to tell you it feels or plays like GW1 because it doesnt.
Traits are the largest "overhaul". There have also been major QoL changes wrt inventory and wallet and such, but it's still 5 weapon skills 5 selectable skills tab targeting etc. .
There is now a lot more build variety and trinity-like play in instanced content.
Yes you can start Path of Fire if you're level 80.
TharpDaddy
Member
You can re-download the base game and see if it catches you. All the QoL and system changes will be present in that, just minus the new profession and specializations.
I'm in the same boat as you and played through HoT, but I still have the same issues with it I had at launch, it's not the sequel to Guild Wars 1 I wanted. I've just had to accept GW2 isn't a game that i'll ever like.
What Massicot said but if you're a fan of the GW1 lore/story, then PoF has plenty of that nostalgia for you. As a huge GW1 fan, I've had a smile on my face throughout it.
Of course if you haven't done the previous story content, you might be a bit lost but if you're okay with that (or with reading a story summary on youtube) then you can easily pick it up, and bring a level 80 into PoF.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Finished Holosmith. Finished Firebrand but I got all the HP with Dragonhunter. Will test later.
Working on Deadeye but I'm heading to work now so it will come later.
I must say, the Crystal Desert is WAY harder than my initial impressions of it. My Spellbreaker mostly steamrolled everything I came across. Even though none of the Hero Points summon Champions, most of them are as hard or harder than most Champion HoT hero points to me.
Back in the Demo I blew up everything I came across with 0 effort so it's nice to see enemies present a challenge. On par with HoT enemies, maybe harder. The Forged dogs that will stun you at range and blink to you are monsters.
Working on Deadeye but I'm heading to work now so it will come later.
I must say, the Crystal Desert is WAY harder than my initial impressions of it. My Spellbreaker mostly steamrolled everything I came across. Even though none of the Hero Points summon Champions, most of them are as hard or harder than most Champion HoT hero points to me.
Back in the Demo I blew up everything I came across with 0 effort so it's nice to see enemies present a challenge. On par with HoT enemies, maybe harder. The Forged dogs that will stun you at range and blink to you are monsters.
That is true, Path of Fire is like a GW1 (especially Nightfall) love letter when it comes to familiar names and places.
On this point, I did fight one HP in Crystal Oasis (the one to the north in the cave area) with my Mesmer and my partners thief and I was quite surprised at how tough it was since it wasn't listed as a group event. Easier than most of the group event HPs in HoT (since I didn't need to wait on anyone to do it with just us two) but it was tougher than expected.
Was about to leave then I saw someone go past us to do it so I went "Might as well help him out" so we 3-man'd it as well XD.
Nemesis121
Member
Slow going for me, trying not to rush the expansion, still haven't done the second story mission, no map completion, just doing Events and exploring got to Highlands got Springer mount, need more mastery points..
I only completed it after I had 3 different ingredients repeated 3 times in a row.
Just got my spinger mount, fluffy bunny so cute!
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I just bought Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire. I haven't played since the vanilla version since before it went F2P. So I'm really lost with the revamped traits and specializations system and generally where and how to get the latest greatest armor and weapons. I have a level 80 Mesmer and Engineer. My mesmer build was illusion shatter based if and my engi was flamethrower based. Now I'm completely lost as to how to play them because it's been so long and so much seems to have changed. The deadeye specialization for thief looks really cool and I'm thinking of using one of my level boosters to max out Thief.
tl;dr I'm returning to GW2 after a huge hiatus and am lost as to how to proceed/gear up/build my stats and I need help being pointed in the right direction. Is Lion's Arch still the place to be to get the latest gear?
tl;dr I'm returning to GW2 after a huge hiatus and am lost as to how to proceed/gear up/build my stats and I need help being pointed in the right direction. Is Lion's Arch still the place to be to get the latest gear?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I actually got it in my second try lol
the secret is knowing where the ingredients are, always moving, and throw when the chef has stopped
I'm definitely reaching the limit for a Dualshock 4 controller user since I've decided to see if I can fit the individual mount keybinds onto the controller (so I don't need to keep going into pointer mode to change it).
So far, I've got R1 + Share and R1 + Options. and I may change the autorun and walk buttons when I get the other mounts.
Despite there being 5 mounts, I only need 4 and the default mount button since the default mount doesn't change even if you use the keybinds to mount one of your other mounts.
Hope they don't add anymore new things to keybinds after this >_<.
On the bright side IF you use a controller and don't want to do this but still want to be able to summon your mounts quickly, just set up an easy keybind that you can reach while holding the controller. I just did this as I prefer to have my most used functions on my controller. (I can always use walk/autorun with the KB so I don't mind taking them off the controller since I don't use them much).
Oh and my keybinds for my skimmer/springer mounts (not got the others yet) are Shift + F6/F7
So far, I've got R1 + Share and R1 + Options. and I may change the autorun and walk buttons when I get the other mounts.
Despite there being 5 mounts, I only need 4 and the default mount button since the default mount doesn't change even if you use the keybinds to mount one of your other mounts.
Hope they don't add anymore new things to keybinds after this >_<.
On the bright side IF you use a controller and don't want to do this but still want to be able to summon your mounts quickly, just set up an easy keybind that you can reach while holding the controller. I just did this as I prefer to have my most used functions on my controller. (I can always use walk/autorun with the KB so I don't mind taking them off the controller since I don't use them much).
Oh and my keybinds for my skimmer/springer mounts (not got the others yet) are Shift + F6/F7
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
On a random note, I hate the second map (the highlands), primarily because it made me think there are important stuff in the mines involving the rune puzzles even though I only went there for one PoI/Vista/Mastery/HP. Turns out you don't need to do the runes >_>
Wasted a huge amount of time there.
Wasted a huge amount of time there.
I think doing stuff with the runes can net you a unique staff and axe.
It's not about having a shedule, Metas, or organized events or World-Bosses just are more engaging, mechanically interesting and have a more epic feeling than your run of the mill event or event chain.
They made alot of them on fixed timers (and I agree that's annoying as hell) but something like the Silverwastes wasn't and works too.
HoT metas were annoying cause they were everything on the map on every map and left nothing else to do, but they had the opportunity to mix things this time around, especially with how big the maps are, and they didn't and made almost a complete 180.
I mean they already did less intrusive metas with LS3 maps, here there is almost nothing.
I played one of the so called 'metas' of this expansion today, it's basically a very condensed version of the Balthazar temple event in Orr, and the rewards were shit ... save for a few tokens of a currency that I don't know how to use cause I don't find an NPC that would take it at the location they give you.
Popular theory is that they didn't include such things in the base maps but will in LS4 since it's around the corner we'll have to see, but a balanced mix would have been preferable.
May I ask why you are saving those unidentified items? Is there a strategy in opening them?