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Guilty Gear Xrd PC |OT| Get down to 4k rock!
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EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, XRDs seems a lot more useful? Like it's a little nitpicky, but you need to do it 4/6 times usually- which is fairly relaxing considering you'd probably want like 99% to do this stuff in an actual match.
Some of it seems a bit arbitary, but it's a step beyond 'win a match only with overdrives'. I'm not even sure if overdrives are any good in XRD- it looks like most characters want to use tension on YRCs above all else? Don't really remember Reload though, to be fair.
The missions in Xrd are designed to actually teach you about How To Play Guilty Gear, rather than being goofy singleplayer challenges. I can understand why someone wanting the old-style silly missions would be upset, but I much prefer the new style, even if some of the actual Missions are pretty darn contrived situations.
Overdrives certainly aren't useless, especially at low life with the Hellfire buff, but as is usual for GG, a lot of characters get far more mileage out of RCs. Especially YRC for characters with projectiles. Ky, for example: Ride the Lightning isn't bad, but unless you're gonna kill by putting it on the end of a combo, you might want to use that Tension for Charged Stun Edge YRC oki, or Stun Edge YRC at neutral.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I guess it would be nice to have both the teaching missions and the single player challenge ones, don't get me wrong, but I feel like if it 'has' to be one or the other the teachings ones seem a lot better for a bad like myself.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I have no idea how to get started with combos beyond inefficient chains. Are the challenge combos useful for using or building off of? Even tutorial videos that are supposed to teach from the beginning glaze over it.
Phantasmal Repose
Member
Best way to get started with combos is to look at the Dustloop wiki and forums for your character. Most challenge combos are not really optimal and there just to test your execution.
Honestly, the way I learned was getting familiar with my buttons and the mechanics of the game / the ebb and flow of battle with my main and then watching match vids.
The challenge combos are horribly confusing and inefficient (in both damage and complexity).
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
So just like SFIV's.
Playing anything other than Street Fighter on a stick is still incredibly stiff.
Some top CoD performance by Elphelt from NEC2015 grand final:
http://webmshare.com/play/r66RJ
http://webmshare.com/play/r66RJ
Yeah, but there are actually things in Guilty Gear that are incredibly important that I prefer to do on pad over stick, such as instant air dashes. I find that there are actually a lot of pad GG players, and the guy who is probably the best player in America is a pad player (look up Zidane Leo).
It's all about finding a layout that's comfortable to you, whether you're using macros for stuff like roman cancel and faultless defense or doing a claw setup on your pad.
It took me a little longer when I first started playing Guilty Gear in GGAC to get a feel for the flow of battle. I've never really been able to explain it well in words, I do want to make some sort of flowchart for it so perhaps maybe someone else will pick it up quicker.
Skyfireblaze
Member
Hmm can someone help me out? A friend called me over earlier to play this in 4K (he only had the PS3 version before so he double dipped) and for my life of it I couldn't get this downsampled via GeDoSaTo o.o
I normally never have problems with using it but this time I'm COMPLETELY stumped.
I made a custom .ini for the game and put
inside as per guide, then I switched to 1280x720 in the settings and the game gets shows up huge in the window so far it works. Though when I press ALT+Enter to go back to fullscreen we were back at 1080p and GeDoSaTo's status display said Not Downsampling.
Can people who downsample with GeDoSaTo actually press Numpad+ and see if the game really downsamples and it isn't just a placebo effect?
Obviously I'm kidding here but is there maybe a step I'm missing? He has a GTX 960 and I never used GeDoSaTo with nVidia cards, are there any extra steps? o.o (actually I just remembered helping a friend with a GTX 660 downsampling Last Remnant before so it can't be that...)
I contemplated getting the game myself on Steam but I do have the PS4 version and if I can't go higher than 1080p I might aswell stick to it
I normally never have problems with using it but this time I'm COMPLETELY stumped.
I made a custom .ini for the game and put
Code:
forceAlwaysDownsamplingRes true
overrideWidth 1280
overrideHeight 720inside as per guide, then I switched to 1280x720 in the settings and the game gets shows up huge in the window so far it works. Though when I press ALT+Enter to go back to fullscreen we were back at 1080p and GeDoSaTo's status display said Not Downsampling.
Can people who downsample with GeDoSaTo actually press Numpad+ and see if the game really downsamples and it isn't just a placebo effect?
Obviously I'm kidding here but is there maybe a step I'm missing? He has a GTX 960 and I never used GeDoSaTo with nVidia cards, are there any extra steps? o.o (actually I just remembered helping a friend with a GTX 660 downsampling Last Remnant before so it can't be that...)
I contemplated getting the game myself on Steam but I do have the PS4 version and if I can't go higher than 1080p I might aswell stick to it
You don't make a custom ini, you update the settings in GeDoSToHmm can someone help me out? A friend called me over earlier to play this in 4K (he only had the PS3 version before so he double dipped) and for my life of it I couldn't get this downsampled via GeDoSaTo o.o
I normally never have problems with using it but this time I'm COMPLETELY stumped.
I made a custom .ini for the game and put
Code:forceAlwaysDownsamplingRes true overrideWidth 1280 overrideHeight 720
inside as per guide, then I switched to 1280x720 in the settings and the game gets shows up huge in the window so far it works. Though when I press ALT+Enter to go back to fullscreen we were back at 1080p and GeDoSaTo's status display said Not Downsampling.
Can people who downsample with GeDoSaTo actually press Numpad+ and see if the game really downsamples and it isn't just a placebo effect?
Obviously I'm kidding here but is there maybe a step I'm missing? He has a GTX 960 and I never used GeDoSaTo with nVidia cards, are there any extra steps? o.o
I contemplated getting the game myself on Steam but I do have the PS4 version and if I can't go higher than 1080p I might aswell stick to it
I believe the problem here is the "overrideWidth/overrideHeight." When you specify those, GeDoSaTo only triggers when the game requests that specific resolution. That sounds fine, except Xrd's full-screen mode ignores what setting you picked in the menu. So what I'd do is remove the overrideWidth/overrideHeight params entirely, leaving just forceAlwaysDownsamplingRes, and then go into fullscreen mode and it should work. That's what I'm doing. It breaks Windowed mode, though. Alternatively, set the overrides to 1080p if that's what fullscreen mode is requesting.Hmm can someone help me out? A friend called me over earlier to play this in 4K (he only had the PS3 version before so he double dipped) and for my life of it I couldn't get this downsampled via GeDoSaTo o.o
I normally never have problems with using it but this time I'm COMPLETELY stumped.
I made a custom .ini for the game and put
Code:forceAlwaysDownsamplingRes true overrideWidth 1280 overrideHeight 720
inside as per guide, then I switched to 1280x720 in the settings and the game gets shows up huge in the window so far it works. Though when I press ALT+Enter to go back to fullscreen we were back at 1080p and GeDoSaTo's status display said Not Downsampling.
Can people who downsample with GeDoSaTo actually press Numpad+ and see if the game really downsamples and it isn't just a placebo effect?
Obviously I'm kidding here but is there maybe a step I'm missing? He has a GTX 960 and I never used GeDoSaTo with nVidia cards, are there any extra steps? o.o (actually I just remembered helping a friend with a GTX 660 downsampling Last Remnant before so it can't be that...)
I contemplated getting the game myself on Steam but I do have the PS4 version and if I can't go higher than 1080p I might aswell stick to it
Skyfireblaze
Member
But aren't game-specific GeDoSaTo configs supposed to superseding the main-config? Either way I'll try that tomorrow, thanks!
Thanks what I figured too from observing its behavior but alright thanks! I'll try that tomorrow and report back as it's almost 8pm now so I won't run back to his house
Can people who downsample with GeDoSaTo actually press Numpad+ and see if the game really downsamples and it isn't just a placebo effect?
I know you're kidding, but I figured I'd post some comparison pics anyway so people don't think we're going crazy.
Pardon the Steam screenshot compression.
Edit: Got some uncompressed screens.
4K Downsampled:
1080p Native:
Skyfireblaze
Member
I'm debating if I should pick this up or not. I've never played a GG game before, and none of my friends are interested in buying it, so I'd be on my own with randoms online. I've played a ton of SF4 and have a stick and all that.
It just looks amazing graphically. I can't get enough of looking at all the downsampled screenshots in this thread.
I'm worried that I'd get frustrated learning the way GG works or that the number of online players would dwindle quickly.
It just looks amazing graphically. I can't get enough of looking at all the downsampled screenshots in this thread.
I'm worried that I'd get frustrated learning the way GG works or that the number of online players would dwindle quickly.
...It's $25. It's the start of the third GG series. You're basically starting at a good point. Get it.
It's a memory leak, unplug your USN device and restart
Uh, you mean the controller? I've already tried restarting, but if I need to have the controller unplugged while I'm doing that, I'll try again.
EDIT: It worked! Hopefully that's fixed soon.
It will be in the first update
The Yo Tornado
Member
Little late, but if you're still on I'll play. If not if anyone else wants to play my Steam ID is the same as my GAF one.
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So the number isn't updated just yet, but the sales according to SteamSpy are at 23,450.
Few things here, first is that this is the fastest selling Guilty Gear to date, already outselling Accent Core's total sales. And if we assume that everyone bought it for $24(we know thats no the case) they would have made almost $400k taking into account the 30% cut from Valve.
So yeah I think we are going to see more Guilty Gear on Steam if it keeps its pace, which it probably will do very well for the first month and during sales.
Few things here, first is that this is the fastest selling Guilty Gear to date, already outselling Accent Core's total sales. And if we assume that everyone bought it for $24(we know thats no the case) they would have made almost $400k taking into account the 30% cut from Valve.
So yeah I think we are going to see more Guilty Gear on Steam if it keeps its pace, which it probably will do very well for the first month and during sales.
I just need Revelator around launch. Don't make us wait forever for it. ASW plz
Well sales for this are probably already satisfactory, so if it is a delayed launch it will probably be by a few months, so around Summer.
Though again this is doing pretty well so they could always push it back to late Spring for a simultaneous launch since we haven't gotten an exact date yet.
Schedules can always change
Sadly I don't think it's going to match console date. They already announced their full up-to-summer-2016 PC fighter lineup (scrunching all these already-released fighters together might have a dampening effect on sales) and I think we're probably going to get Revelator at Fall 2016 at the earliest.
That being said this release of Xrd has confirmed for me that there is no need to own a console for a fighter ever and I really don't mind waiting until fall as not only will I have Melty Blood to play in the meanwhile, but Elphelt has hardly changed between releases so there's no reason not to practice her now in SIGN. heh
I hate Elphie. Not the character aesthetic but my friend is too good at using her various tools against my lumbering Potemkin :|
Is the game very demanding to downsample from 4k? I have a single 970.
I'll never give up consoles, just too convenient, but it is nice to have so many good fighters on a platform I'll never have to worry about sticks. I'd be fine with Fall for Revelator.
Just need Namco to hop on board the PC train. TTT2 is begging for a PC release. The IQ on consoles is just so bad.
God damn I need to get back into this.
Consoles are where the main fighting playerbase is at :O.
I'm never going to be able to pull off air dash cancelling. Maybe its just me playing with a stick but I dunno. Comboing can be painful.
Still love the game. Like all fighters I'm pretty terrible at them, especially ArcSys ones, but I'm enjoying it strongly. Millia is still my go to GG character.
Also, is there any reason to downsample even if your resolution is 1080p? Not sure if I can really get the visual fidelity much higher.
Still love the game. Like all fighters I'm pretty terrible at them, especially ArcSys ones, but I'm enjoying it strongly. Millia is still my go to GG character.
Also, is there any reason to downsample even if your resolution is 1080p? Not sure if I can really get the visual fidelity much higher.
I don't really care about who has the biggest population numbers as long as I can find good matches. Plus niche games always reduce in size to small numbers on both console and PC, believe me, P4AU's rank matches died out in less than a month.
For me though, I don't ever want to pay for online and cloud saves ever again, so for that I really look forward to any excuse to avoid it, even if I have to wait several months after console release for Revelator I really don't mind (agreeing with you on that part).
I really like the look and style of Melty Blood gameplay so I'm sure that will be a nice stopgap while we wait for ASW to drop Revelator. Thankfully ASW is getting experience porting titles right now and since Revelator is the same game as SIGN with an updated UI and characters porting it should be 100x easier after porting SIGN. If they do delay Revelator into fall or past that it will be for business reasons, not technical ones... and obviously they won't announce Revelator's release date and timing so close to SIGN's release if you want people to buy SIGN. So we could be waiting a while.
tl;dr not going to bother with console since ASW's PC support is robust (though technically flawed in some areas) even if Revelator comes late
I use downsampling with gedosato following a tutorial and it does work in cleaning up the last of the fuzzies on characters and the background. That being said the terrible UI is the real dealbreaker and that has to be fixed by ASW; poor pixelated Elphelt face in lobbies lol
Even the character art in the select screen is fuzzy and not high quality...
I'm not sure I will ever fully understand this game.
Nope, that's the card I have.
I don't think we have much to go on about if/when Relevator will come to PC. This is the first time ASW have released a game on PC in a series that's still on-going, barring GGXX Reloaded (which ASW was apparently not involved with on PC, and didn't even come out in the US on PC until 2014) and Arcana Heart 3 (which they didn't develop).
Though honestly, seeing how fast this managed to sell despite no fucks being given in promoting it, I'd like to think they're considering it.
Though honestly, seeing how fast this managed to sell despite no fucks being given in promoting it, I'd like to think they're considering it.
With a ± 4,169 margin of error. But It's looking good for the 5th day. There will probably be a big influx in sales on the last day for people trying to catch the discount.
Week one JP Sales:
[PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} - 27,278 / NEW
[PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} - 12,638 / NEW
It was able to pull 100,000 in Japan by September.
Wonder what it is for worldwide numbers.
Bit the bullet, set up GeDoSaTo and played through the tutorial and a few challenges. It looks very nice.
I have a question about GeDoSaTo overrideWidth and overrideHeight - are these the resolution that the UI renders at? I have the rest of the game rendering at '4480x2520@60' and it looks amazing, except the character health bars and their avatars next to them. If I increase the overrides will that improve that?
Also, does any character here play like Hazama from BB? Also I played Bison in SF4 series, so if there's any similar characters please let me know. Right now I think I'll try to complete 15 challenges for each character and then pick the one I liked the best.
I have a question about GeDoSaTo overrideWidth and overrideHeight - are these the resolution that the UI renders at? I have the rest of the game rendering at '4480x2520@60' and it looks amazing, except the character health bars and their avatars next to them. If I increase the overrides will that improve that?
Also, does any character here play like Hazama from BB? Also I played Bison in SF4 series, so if there's any similar characters please let me know. Right now I think I'll try to complete 15 challenges for each character and then pick the one I liked the best.
I love he lobby system, especially when you've got lots of people waiting. Always getting games in, or just chill and watch people play. It's the best.
Yeah... I've gotten used to the lobby thing and really like how it's set up. Other than the hiccups that is.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Damn, it passed XXAC+r, I can't wait to see numbers after the winter sale ends.
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