I highly doubt they had planned to put BTB into the game until people spoke up a bit
I also doubt that the game was ready to launch last year and a lot of things had to be cut which is galrringly obvious via the content updates.
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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero
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Twilight Gap
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It's confirmed now that the file limit for Forge is 40 saved and 100 bookmarked. MCC was 50 saved (dunno how much bookmarked/fileshared). It's worth noting that since MCC, maps have been stored through the Cloud as opposed to locally.
And I have no idea why. Does the map itself load faster? We have bigass storage drives, so why not use them?
I remember having 700+ files in Reach (most of them backups because save gltiching was and still is a thing) and at least half of that in Halo 4. Granted, I don't miss waiting 5 minutes for my library to load, but I'd prefer the ability to save whenever over constantly worrying about having enough free space whenever I save a copy of a file. Very disappointing to see this limit still in effect, and it's worse now that people can more or less steal maps from each other. So there are like twenty copies of maps with different modifications done to them - none of which the original author is given credit for if another person saves it.
And I have no idea why. Does the map itself load faster? We have bigass storage drives, so why not use them?
I remember having 700+ files in Reach (most of them backups because save gltiching was and still is a thing) and at least half of that in Halo 4. Granted, I don't miss waiting 5 minutes for my library to load, but I'd prefer the ability to save whenever over constantly worrying about having enough free space whenever I save a copy of a file. Very disappointing to see this limit still in effect, and it's worse now that people can more or less steal maps from each other. So there are like twenty copies of maps with different modifications done to them - none of which the original author is given credit for if another person saves it.
343i's silence... Still not a fan of it.
Even a tweet like "Happy new year guys. More H5 news this/next week." would be more than enough. Removing Playlists and not saying anything is just not the way you should do this...
I hope all of this changes with the File Browser update. Otherwise, people will probably have to Forge with secret accounts, so that people can't steal their stuff.
Even a tweet like "Happy new year guys. More H5 news this/next week." would be more than enough. Removing Playlists and not saying anything is just not the way you should do this...
I hope all of this changes with the File Browser update. Otherwise, people will probably have to Forge with secret accounts, so that people can't steal their stuff.
Leyasu
Banned
It's a shame. And when you say that, it makes me wonder why they haven't contracted anyone else to work on maps. Whatever the they are planning, they need to beef up their staff for sure.
@Static jam. Yeah I wonder if BTB was not planned at all?
@ anybody, how do you quote more than one person???
Click the little + button besides each post you want to quote then click post reply, it'll auto quote them for you.
Certain affinity worked on some maps before, aren't they good?
I really dont think 343i worked on any BTB maps or PvE modes.
They bet everything on WZ. Which is great only if it had more maps and modes.
Some really needs BTB and BTB modes, like Strongholds, CTF and so on.
Whats also more annoying is there servers issue, Latency and lag.
Its really killing my and many's momentum and love for Halo. Sometimes it works like it should be, Which is not much. And most of the time, I swear to god its a living hell. When you shotgun someone closeup to you and you end up dying from a BR its not funny. Or two sniper shots in the head. Grenades and what not. Nothing seems to do the trick.
Its sad because, I really love Halo, And love Halo 5 MP. Even with all the problems I have I still support it and play it. Am rarely playing other games because Gaming is Halo to me and Halo is gaming. Been that since day one Halo CE.
I really hope, For the sake of Halo and many who experience my issue 343 will fix this.
I still got my first Halo CE,2 3 reach Wars Copies.
it did hurt when I got refunded for Halo MCC. I hate to even think about getting a refund for Halo 5. With the little gaming time we have in our lifes, I would like to use that in Halo.
And when it works, It feels so amazing. magic feeling.
Fun custom games yesterday Halo GAF. Really enjoyed my time with ya guys.
Never thought one could make so much in FORGE, I was simply amazed.
Thanks again Spartans for inviting me , looking forward for more
You are the BEST
I really dont think 343i worked on any BTB maps or PvE modes.
They bet everything on WZ. Which is great only if it had more maps and modes.
Some really needs BTB and BTB modes, like Strongholds, CTF and so on.
Whats also more annoying is there servers issue, Latency and lag.
Its really killing my and many's momentum and love for Halo. Sometimes it works like it should be, Which is not much. And most of the time, I swear to god its a living hell. When you shotgun someone closeup to you and you end up dying from a BR its not funny. Or two sniper shots in the head. Grenades and what not. Nothing seems to do the trick.
Its sad because, I really love Halo, And love Halo 5 MP. Even with all the problems I have I still support it and play it. Am rarely playing other games because Gaming is Halo to me and Halo is gaming. Been that since day one Halo CE.
I really hope, For the sake of Halo and many who experience my issue 343 will fix this.
I still got my first Halo CE,2 3 reach Wars Copies.
it did hurt when I got refunded for Halo MCC. I hate to even think about getting a refund for Halo 5. With the little gaming time we have in our lifes, I would like to use that in Halo.
And when it works, It feels so amazing. magic feeling.
Fun custom games yesterday Halo GAF. Really enjoyed my time with ya guys.
Never thought one could make so much in FORGE, I was simply amazed.
Thanks again Spartans for inviting me , looking forward for more
You are the BEST
I numbered the things, so it's easier to read.
1. Certain Affinity should stay where they are and that's doing the Doom MP. Only their Reach maps where truly good and after that the quality dropped significantly. Just look at their H2A maps... Stupid lighting, overuse of color filters and basically 2 colors for a map.
2. They worked on BTB maps, but that was with well known Forgers. Now, I don't remember what date it said on The Sprint episodes, but it was after Gamescom when they said that BTB will come after launch. By that time, nobody expected it to be only Forge maps, though.
As for PvE modes. They never mentioned these, so it probably was never in development or they cut it in an early prototype stage. Some people still have hopes for a Firefight Content Update, where you can use REQ's, but good luck with that.
3. Warzone is pretty okay in it's concept, but 12v12 seems really small for maps like Battle of Noctus and sometimes even on the other maps like Raid on Apex 7. I think the biggest misstep was Breakout. There seems to be only a smart percentage of the population that really likes it.
Leyasu
Banned
Thanks Jem
Halo 4 has two of my favourite Halo maps: Haven and Monolith.
Other than that I found they were all pretty meh.
Yes, both great playing maps. Adrift was a personal favorite of mine as well. As mentioned earlier, the key aspect of Halo 5 maps that I don't like is the lack of proper art direction and personality.
Yeah, I thought of those reach Maps. Sad, I really think they were talented.
Exactly, Forge maps. Not real maps if you know what I mean. Which got me thinking that they placed every bet on WZ to capture the fans.
You dont think we will get some sort of PvE modes? * heartbroken * : (
I mean these modes are crucial to Halo. Every Halo iteration ads more contents, not taking out. It should be like that IMO.
Real BTB Maps, Slayer and objective
PvE ( Firefight at night )
king of the hill
Infection
Assault
Territories
Headhunter
Thats my dream. Really hope they can pull that off. They got the the people, Resources and talent.
I really like Skyline, Daybreak, Abandon, and Meltdown.
SmartWaffles
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https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/...oryMatchIndex=0&gameHistoryGameModeFilter=All
Could matchmaking be more shit than this?
Could matchmaking be more shit than this?
Oh yeah Skyline is really good as well and Meltdown was pretty fun.
Never was particularly keen on Abandon.
I haven't played Daybreak.
Samurai G0SU
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Wow, that map looks like it would be REALLY fun to play on. Each section has great characteristics. High and low.
To me, each mp map in Halo had a backstory. Even in Halo 4. With halo 5, it's all about Spartans on the Infinity competing against eachother. Sure it's cool to have some maps created around a competitive layout, but not every damn map.
We need some fun maps that reflect these artist's creativity. That theme of every map needs to be perfect for arena competitive play is hogwash. We don't need all the arena maps to be competitive. Just a few. 343i plz?
maybe it's all ONI propoganda and were all effed.
Where my voice-over announcer customization though?
VincentMatts
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Well they need to look at what Disney is doing with SW. Theyre not trying to be creative with it or putting their spin on it, theyre giving the people exactly what they want which is what Lucas wasnt doing. Look how it payed off.
We dont want 343s vision of Halo, we want what Halo has always been. Its not fucking complicated. Stop removing shit thats always been there and is expected in every game. Wheres assault, wheres juggernaut etc..
As for the content updates, i feel like this was their way of keeping people interested in the game long term. It gives people a reason to log in every month to check out the new content.
jizzlobber
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That's the reason why I haven't bothered with it.
I had an idea for a map but the lack of any kind of preview was enough to make me quit right away... There is no way I'm going to build a map like that, it would take way too long to almost blindly open and delete items over and over.
Plus the controls are strange, should mirror the actual game as much as possible.
I had an idea for a map but the lack of any kind of preview was enough to make me quit right away... There is no way I'm going to build a map like that, it would take way too long to almost blindly open and delete items over and over.
Plus the controls are strange, should mirror the actual game as much as possible.
SmartWaffles
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Yeah I like Skyline, but playing 5v5 in MCC on it (and probably all the Halo 4 maps) isn't the most pleasant experience.
This is a disappointing aspect of Halo as a Service. A lot of this comes from using dedicated servers as its base. I'm in the same boat of wanting more. I'd be fine with a Bungie Pro system where I pay for a year of extra space.
What am I reading?
Haven was alright, for a halo 4 map. It looked pretty but suffered from poor gameplay art. You could never tell what side you were on or call out a side. Same thing with adrift, which was also too much narrow hallways. The flow of adrift was terrible. It's like overgrowth meets the rig.
Yeah it's probably akin to a lot of CE maps in that doubles is its core experience, and then 4v4 CTF.
Honestly when it comes to maps the only antipathy I have is to Reach. Every other game I've liked the maps fine, although when it comes to porting the maps out of their original games you can run into some serious problems (with CEA showing the weaknesses of CE's maps, for example. Crazy power weapon placements aside CA's updated versions were superior to the originals.)
I am a sucker for interesting aesthetics. Adrift was fun in FFA. It's not like Halo 4 was super competitive anyways.
backflip10019
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Remake The Pit for Halo 5.
Remake The Pit for every subsequent Halo game ever. It's the best map in existence. I need it in Halo 5.
Remake The Pit for every subsequent Halo game ever. It's the best map in existence. I need it in Halo 5.
I'm shocked we got a good looking version of Swordbase in forge over Hang Em High
link1201
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It'd be nice if they started having a core amount of legacy maps. They might have to be spiritual successors due to changes in movement but I'd love to see the best maps from the past be present day one in new games.
Samurai G0SU
Member
I want that Ivory Tower in a playlist dangit!
Samurai G0SU
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FTFY and no.... I'll pass.
Samurai G0SU
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It really looks great. If campaign had theatre, half my play time would probably be spent in there. Would love some multiplayer maps on Sanghelios and Genesis. My only complaint is as always, the helmet as a non-toggleable part of the hud. Feels so damn claustrophobic, doesn't immerse me in the slightest.
VincentMatts
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I honestly think H5 has my favourite art direction in the series when it comes to the environmental art:
It's so damn gorgeous.
And yet, the MP maps are so boring. How is the SP so fucking beautiful, and the MP maps so blah...
Yeah, I can't work it out either. To me it seems like the spartan abilities have to work seemlessly with maps, with clean edges to clamber onto etc, so the easiest thing is to make loads of sharp, straight edges, so we end up with the damn human metal aesthetic for way too many maps. That and they've done a bad job working individual aesthetics into the maps. What little there is, is on the outside of maps where you're never looking. Case in point, The Rig. The only reason it looks different from Empire or Eden is because the lightning palette is orange, not blue. And this only applies to Arena. Warzone maps are great and totally different from one another.
Samurai G0SU
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But those bases in WZ though...... =/
Nah, they always planned to have BTB... It just appears that they'd planned launch it with Forge maps for sometime. We see that in the vidocs...
Whether or not that was a direct result of not having time, or whether it was always their plan we'll never no...
I honestly think H5 has my favourite art direction in the series when it comes to the environmental art:
It's so damn gorgeous.
Simply amazing.
Just hoped we could have explored them more.
Like with the arbiter world. Instead of just firefighting throu it , we could have had something like the silent cartographer.
Or Genesis. Great art.
I feel the exact opposite... I feel like this is the most easy to use forge in the series... Works just like a Windows program, really...
Hah yeah, I hope going forward they find ways to implement the maps into becoming the bases, rather then copy and pasting more metal rooms. Way too much of the action happens in those same rooms, negating whatever map you happen to be on.
ZeezbruhTV
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All I want is to play a bunch of BTB, still cant find a game. I wish I was bad at halo, then I could actually play.
Hidden ranks are preventing matchmaking?
Yea they do :/
Social playlists need to just take out hidden ranks or at least have a much much bigger range of skill levels for matches. But I guess just hiding the ranks was the quickest way to get social playlists in... of course it may be intentional too.
To me connection should really be the only thing that matters for social though. If I want close and intense matches I'll go play ranked. *shrug*
Samurai G0SU
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Yeah, so much potentail to have covie, forerunner or even flood themed bases!
343i plz
gimmie those farting gas gyser bases. all hail the overmind.
Campaign versus multiplayer assets. There's nothing happening really in those shots. Whereas you have to account for 8-24 players in multiplayer, a myriad of weapons and vehicles and maintaining 60fps.
Just imagine though, what campaign spaces could have looked like, had they said we should stick to 60fps for multiplayer, but do locked 30fps for campaign.
I do think the dev maps look really good though. I mean Overgrowth is definitely a looker, maps like Plaza definitely ooze visual appeal. The only issue is we haven't really gotten any dev created outdoors spaces aside from Forge or Warzone. I want a map using the colors and look of Reunion/Genesis etc. I need that water, that skybox, the visual art in an arena map.
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