The Librarian
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What was wrong with it in CEA again?
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What was wrong with it in CEA again?
RowdyReverb
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Can't you see you're interrupting an important debate about grenades and HUD indicators?
jk, but you're going to have to explain what you're talking about, because I don't follow
I feel hit markers and stuff are unnecessary as well.
We don't need weapon hit markers - that's what shield flare is for.
Same with grenade hit markers and indicators - we have visual and audio cues for incoming grenades. Seems like more features to babysit the player. Awareness of what's happening on your screen should be enough indication.
I can see grenade hit markers ruining the stealth aspect of some Halo matches. They could be used to feel around corners and ultimately ruin any sneaky plays.
At least these are only in H2A. Whatever. I'll still enjoy H2A a lot despite these tiny adjustments. I say tiny because we tend to blow things out of proportion without experiencing the gameplay ourselves first.
We don't need weapon hit markers - that's what shield flare is for.
Same with grenade hit markers and indicators - we have visual and audio cues for incoming grenades. Seems like more features to babysit the player. Awareness of what's happening on your screen should be enough indication.
I can see grenade hit markers ruining the stealth aspect of some Halo matches. They could be used to feel around corners and ultimately ruin any sneaky plays.
At least these are only in H2A. Whatever. I'll still enjoy H2A a lot despite these tiny adjustments. I say tiny because we tend to blow things out of proportion without experiencing the gameplay ourselves first.
I guess I can be happy as long as they are not Advanced Warefare grenade indicators. Those things tell you exactly where the grenade is, and how far away it is from you.
The Librarian
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It's one of the reason I don't mind them (and kinda like them). Like the radar in Halo 1/2/3.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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I find it funny there are people suggesting grenade spam isn't present whether hit markers are there or not. I have seen plenty of pros and online gamers grenade spam predicting or pre-empting where enemies will move, many times they shoot predictively too. This has been present since CE dropped and got played at LANs.
Anyone ever think hit markers can help combat things like active camo? It's not all negative. Also differing settings guys, some playlists can have em and some may not...
Now you're talking my language.
Anyone ever think hit markers can help combat things like active camo? It's not all negative. Also differing settings guys, some playlists can have em and some may not...
Now you're talking my language.
RowdyReverb
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Good point. I definitely think indicators should be limited to grenades that are near enough to lower shields. Otherwise, you can't really trick people into running over your grenade because they'll get a warning too far in advance and stop short. I just want enough to know where the grenade is by my feet without having to waste time looking down at my feet.
Prinz Eugn
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Tomorrow I will try to write up a decent post summarizing why grenade hit markers are not good for Halo ala my ADS post a while back.
But it's late and I have RL to L
But it's late and I have RL to L
Sooth them with promises of Halo 2 beta content. I'll add a Chipotle gift card to my offer of brownies.
Seriously though, is there any chance of cut/beta Halo 2 content making showing up as DLC? That would make for one hell of an anniversary treatment.
What?
RowdyReverb
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I feel like it would be ultimately disappointing and would take a lot of work for something that a small percentage of players will run through once or twice for shits and giggles. I think it's better to leave that part of Halo history where it is and experience it as E3 attendees did: through a carefully constructed demonstration.
It's crazy, I'm spending almost $400+ to play this damn game and I'm not alone. I know at least 5 people in real life doing the same. I don't even really want an Xbox One, or care a lot for the other titles right now. I figure the next game I'll probably buy will only be Halo 5 as well.
Der Flatulator
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Is this the RL?
Yup, it's insane but I don't really care. The PS3 was my first console in the last generation for two reasons;
1. Free online for MP games
2. Bluray player
In total I ended up with two games played on my PS3 at full price, MW2 and BF3. The rest were preowned, or were really cheap. I switched most of my gaming to Steam in the meanwhile.
Both reasons are no longer applicable. So while my Xbox One will likely just be for Halo, I have absolutely no issue with this choice. I spent most of my time playing one or two games on the PS3 anyway, I don't like most of the exclusives otherwise.
In fact, I think PC+Halo makes up 75% of my gaming time. I'm talking about thousands of hours here. To put this in perspective, I think I have 2000+ hours on Halo 2's campaign alone.
RowdyReverb
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Is anybody even arguing in favor of grenade hit markers? I feel like there's some shadow boxing going on here.
Yes? Reread Dax's posts. She says indicators, but context is pretty clear that it's markers since "it shows when she hits them".
It will probably be a while before it comes to Xbox One. Even then, I'll wait to see some reviews, see whether they fixed a lot of what people didn't like in Spartan Assault.
The Librarian
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I never said it was "acting as a radar" to imply that it's like having two. I said that it's vague enough, just like the radar from Halo 1/2/3, that I don't mind it being there.
Poodlestrike
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Honestly, the mere fact that they're axing microtransactions is a good sign in my eyes. A lot of Spartan Assault's problems could be attributed to the fact that they wanted you to pay for boosters and special weapon starts.
The Librarian
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To be fair, all I said was that I liked indicators. I never said or made the point that they should absolutely be in the game or shouldn't be removed.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Guys pliss. If you have the ability to hold 8 grenades (Halo 2 Anniversary) and the ability for those grenades to tell you where people are located (Halo 2 Anniversary) and you have a motion tracker that spans the entire length of Sanctuary (just about, Halo 2 Anniversary) and a motion tracker that tells you elevation (Halo 2 Anniversary) and a motion tracker that tells you vehicles (Halo 2 Anniversary) and a motion tracker that does your homework, pays your bills, feeds your kids, mows the lawn, walks the dog, and just generally gives you too much information and you know.. your got damn EYEBALLS, EARS and HUMAN BRAIN............... don't you think that maybe grenade indicators/hitmarkers are a little overkill?
My baby jesus.
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My baby jesus.
Someone hold me.
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But 8 grenades and your eyeballs lol. Plus, are they really attracting that many people or keeping them around if grenade markers are in the game? People say this a lot, to appeal to the modern FPS fan, but where's the proof? ;'[
RowdyReverb
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Oh, my mistake. Carry on then.
Grenade hit markers are unnecessary, but I can bear them if it means playing H2A. I guess they have to make at least some concession to the modern FPS fan.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Doesn't pinpoint them nor allow you to flush them out. I know in Halo 4 where possible I would take cover and throw a grenade or two, call out to teammates and flush them out. Generally I spot camo quite well at close to mid range but you'd even pop off some bullet fire to expose them as well. I'd do the same reaction/strategy with or without hit markers but they do enable me to be more solo-reliant in matchmaking. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing as plenty of gamers are searching in 1s or 2s in place of a full party.
As for fishing around throwing grenades on a map think about larger maps than just MLG/AGL style play, it's not something so damaging to the game it has to be removed at all costs. I'd even hazard a guess fishing for grenade damage indication would leave you down a shot or two and could even be used against you in many encounters.
After all we've had incoming bullet damage indicators on the left and right of the HUD since forever, should we remove that too?
rhetorical
'Sall good. Im feeling like 6 maps would burn me out after awhile, so I'll probably be sticking to the first 3. Wish we could just make 0 concessions for a change, oh well. Still pumped after everything today.
The wave texture wasn't filtered correctly in CEA. Even zoomed in with the pistol, the distant water looks flat and unanimated. All you see is the very low-res cubemap.
In the original game, the wave texture is filtered with a LOD bias to cause the water to glitter in the distance. It's a tacky effect, but it makes the skybox look much more alive, and it has the pleasant "side" effect of breaking up* the low-res cubemap, making it look like a decent reflection of the sky.
I unfortunately don't have any good captures to show the difference; if you squint just right, you can sort of see it in this.
Anyway, if you look at the image I put in my post, it seems like high-frequency waves are being represented on the far-off water surface.
*I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the game might actually be using the wave texture as a normal map for the sky reflection.
Yes. Based on reasons.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Here's a question I'd love to get an answer to prior to launch of MCC -
Australia Azure datacentres are in private test mode and are the first Aussie cloud centres with IRAP certification (govt. data security stuff). With that MS still aren't providing a firm date for both Sydney and Melbourne Azure datacentres being opened for live public use. Aussie distributors of MS licensing and Azure tokens as well as developers (like me) are guesstimating before XMAS to be open live for both centres.
Now can we confirm or debunk that Australia will have local Aussie MCC servers like Titanfall did? Or Destiny does? It's the difference between being routed to Singapore (110ms) vs. Sydney/Melbourne (10-25ms).
Australia Azure datacentres are in private test mode and are the first Aussie cloud centres with IRAP certification (govt. data security stuff). With that MS still aren't providing a firm date for both Sydney and Melbourne Azure datacentres being opened for live public use. Aussie distributors of MS licensing and Azure tokens as well as developers (like me) are guesstimating before XMAS to be open live for both centres.
Now can we confirm or debunk that Australia will have local Aussie MCC servers like Titanfall did? Or Destiny does? It's the difference between being routed to Singapore (110ms) vs. Sydney/Melbourne (10-25ms).
I'll brie honest, if you have to axe, wail, then you probably lived here but you never gruyere.
NobleGundam
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I think a "Universal" theater would be appropriate to this collection. Call it the "Master" theater mode, huehuehue
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Is it too late for a launch MCC bundle to be announced?
Not too clued in to bundles
Not too clued in to bundles
xbox can auto generate clips right? that would be nice for theatre mode....
Yeah, it auto records last 5 minutes (not nearly long enough, IMO. Needs to be at least 10. 15 would be ideal. No idea why there's a limit)
Not very good for screenshots and stuff though
Reagan's BR
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Regardless of how anyone feels about hit markers (I don't like them in Halo). I find it ironic that 343 went to such huge lengths to make MP cannon and explain why the Reds and Blues are fighting only to add hit markers which don't have any canonical basis.
Not supposed to be a dig at 343. Just something I've found funny.
Not supposed to be a dig at 343. Just something I've found funny.
maneil99
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Any news on Split Screen Framerates
The canonization of multiplayer seemed to focus more on the context, as opposed to the details. As far as I know gameplay isn't canon for various important reasons, so hitmarkers don't really need to have a canonical basis.
It would be nice to have a canon difficulty in the campaign/canon gametype though.
BigEvilTurtle
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Not every addition was made on the basis of canon. I don't get how that's ironic at all.
YourExWife
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Go home, Barlow, you're drunk.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Spitballing...couldn't Spartan augmentations with MJOLNIR radar and audio abilities combine to deliver basic grenade hit detection?
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