Poker Face
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they're obsessed. it's kind of sad
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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they're obsessed. it's kind of sad
The Lamonster
Member
still looking for this information if anyone has it
I went and read Fyre's posts. His major argument is that the collection has to "stand for something more." And it does - he even mentioned some of the things it stands for. A unified UI, having everything in one place, etc. Even further, it represents a game company recognizing its rabid and (tough) loving fanbase, and catering to them in many ways with this love letter of a collection. They're taking feedback gracefully and implementing it. That alone is priceless. It shows 343's dedication to a franchise that I care about. It shows they've learned from their past mistakes.
But that kind of stuff you can't put on the box. MS has to sell this game too, and slapping superlative after superlative under a bulletpoint list of all the stuff in this collection, underscoring it with "all for 60 dollars! pls buy now," is how they're going to do it. That's marketing, but communities such as this can read between the lines and still find value. But people are going to constantly bring up its pricepoint to content ratio - that's important to a lot of people. That's why people are throwing around terms like "unprecedented;" I can't think of a game collection that is as well modernized with the standard accouterments of the day as MCC.
But that kind of stuff you can't put on the box. MS has to sell this game too, and slapping superlative after superlative under a bulletpoint list of all the stuff in this collection, underscoring it with "all for 60 dollars! pls buy now," is how they're going to do it. That's marketing, but communities such as this can read between the lines and still find value. But people are going to constantly bring up its pricepoint to content ratio - that's important to a lot of people. That's why people are throwing around terms like "unprecedented;" I can't think of a game collection that is as well modernized with the standard accouterments of the day as MCC.
Steelyuhas
Member
Same size. Physical version is patched to match the digital one (so there's only ever a single "version" of the game).
The Lamonster
Member
Great, thanks! So that leads me to wonder...why would anyone buy physical besides the tinfoil hat guys thinking MS is going to take their digital games away from them?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
lol And Patroclos slides by.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Maybe he requested a Ban from the mods to cool off?
Deputy Moonman
Member
Yeah I just went back and looked and I'm still somewhat baffled by what he is saying. Bringing Halo 1 (whether you appreciate it being the pc port or not) and Halo 2 back to xbox live is a big deal alone. Making everything 1080p / 60fps is a pretty big deal on top of that. 343 is injecting juice back into halo matchmaking. Plus you've got re-imagined Halo 2 multiplayer maps and H2A campaign. Sure you can buy all the games separately - possibly for a cheaper price, but that's like purposefully ignoring the fact that you'd have to dig out your og xbox or 360 to play them and then what kind of player population are you going to have? They've combined all 4 games into a single game, which should hugely benefit player population. I fail to see where he's coming from with the game not being a good value. That's not excusing any of the problems with each of the games that may or may not have been fixed, but come on...
Again, go ahead and buy all the games separately for cheaper than 60 bucks. Then tell me how much you enjoy playing by yourself with no matchmaking and with non 1080p/60fps versions. That alone to most people is worth 60 bucks, not to mention the newly redone H2 multiplayer maps and H2A campaign. Some peopel have a warped sense of value.
And ugh I'm tired of hearing about the "14 Day Buy and Play" thing. It was a mistake which players knowingly took advantage of and then wanted to castrate MS for rectifying the mistake. A bunch of butt hurt fans freaking out cuz they didn't something free that was never supposed to be free. Welcome to the real world.
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
just got 3 forerunner crystals, bah.
btw Halo: The Master Chief Collection |OT| Where Second Accounts are Made
Don't think you guys should dicuss bans, IMO, PM a mod to take a look at it. Honestly, I'm confused as to why one is free and the other is banned too but, best to take it to PMs with a mod.
As to the person who said "why would anyone buy physical" (too lazy to quote
), I will buy physical despite its inconvenience because I have all the original game cases for every Halo game I bought and I want to keep that tradition/collection alive
As to the person who said "why would anyone buy physical" (too lazy to quote
), I will buy physical despite its inconvenience because I have all the original game cases for every Halo game I bought and I want to keep that tradition/collection alive I think the issue that most gamers (GAFfers) were "butt hurt" about was the Microsoft PR Lie Machine. Just admit there was a mistake and own up to it. Don't try to spin it as a feature called "14 Day Buy and Play"
I will say they kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one. I did download. I did get the achievements. I did hate the maps. Framerate on those was just abysmal. If I hadn't played them for free I'm 90% sure I would have bought them (something in my needs the bleep-bloop; I'm trying to excise this from my personality when I jump to Xbox One).
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Edit - On the Physical v Digital debate.
Physical means I can both buy and sell used games. This helps me fund future gaming purchases (or just get some money back if the game is bad). Digital is much more convenient and is probably the way I would go with games I "know" I will play forever (MCC, yes).
One thing they need to do is drop the digital price points faster. When a used copy of Destiny is going for ~$35-$40 why would I ever buy the digital download for $60. The convenience of not swapping a disc isn't worth $20 to me.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
As to the person who said "why would anyone buy physical" (too lazy to quote
This is practically the only reason I'm doing it too! That and I want space on my hard drive for future indie games.
They literally lied about the 14 Day Buy and Play. There wasn't a single mention of it anywhere in the world, except later when Kotaku and IGN ran their PR piece.
Would have gone over much easier to just say, we messed up, this shouldn't have been free, we're going to lock it because it's not fair to those who paid, but please enjoy it for a week or two.
Would have gone over much easier to just say, we messed up, this shouldn't have been free, we're going to lock it because it's not fair to those who paid, but please enjoy it for a week or two.
Don't think you guys should dicuss bans,
As to the person who said "why would anyone buy physical" (too lazy to quote
Yeah, We should drop it.
@BigEvilTurtle I thnk the game will take the same amount of HDD space regardless of the media.
You know that physical and digital take as much space from the HDD?
I'm buying digital, but I would really like to have the case so I'm probably buying the physical version when it's under 10 euros.
Serious question - If you buy the physical copy of the MCC you still have to install it to your hard drive. You also need to download the day 1 20GB patch.
If you later uninstall the game from your drive (to make room for other games, etc.) will you be able to choose to leave the 20GB patch installed? Otherwise that'll be a bitch to juggle data down the road.
Should just be a user replaceable hard drive
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Wait, what?
Deputy Moonman
Member
Um how about fans admit that they tried to steal something that wasn't supposed to be free? Apparently only MS is guilty of doing anything wrong. I don't feel sorry for gamers that do this and actually find gamers more distrustful than the actual corporation that gamers decry as the big bad wolf. Gamers try and take advantage of every little thing and then play the blame game when it doesn't work. Well boo hoo. Someone cry me a river so I can ride on a boat to the land of butt hurt with a flag that says, "this is your own fault."
We are hardcore over here on GAF mang
Poodlestrike
Banned
We're a right bunch of bastards we are.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Something completely made up by MS, supported by 343,and then never seen again
I think it was a Halo 4 DLC that was put free by mistake in the MS store, and PR department said this was a 14 day trial , and not a mistake from their part.
II SHABUTIE II
Neo Member
I won't be home when IGN streams, but I bet I can predict what IGN will end up playing Phantom Pistols on Waterworks. People will also get upset when Ryan doesn't initially know what Phantom Pistols on Waterworks is.
hall of fame GAF post.
Best post, worst gif I've ever seen in my life
Zeouterlimits
Member
Please tell me Fyre is not perma'd.
Enough dead soldiers and all that.
Enough dead soldiers and all that.
Well, it was, just not after a certain point. Which I think made the problem worse in terms of how players reacted to it, making it feel less precise because when it would instantly hit versus when you needed to lead wasn't spelled out in-game.
Okay, why did this piss people off?
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Not sure what you mean. Here is the bungie weekly update that explained all of this clearly. Halo 3 BR is not a hitscan weapon:
http://halo.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?cid=14347
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Wow, that looks really, really good.
Call me crazy, but visually the colors are popping and everything looks way sharper than our first look before.
Damn I am excited for this... that suspected Lekgolo thing looks incredibly creepy. The entire production quality looks insane.
Nightfall trailer got me thinking.
Why has no developer used the Hunter Worms to do something more interesting. We got scarabs in H3 and thats about it. They can pretty much take any form.
Another note... Was the organic nature of the SpOps harvester ever explained. Is it a stylistic thing for the covenant?
This thing looks straight out of Gears of War. Even the inside was organic looking. It looked like it had a spine and skin.
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I always figured the Harvester was something they had bigger plans for from SP, but it got cut. I'm not super fond for how 'scary' it looks, which give it the GoW vibe, but I like the insect concept.
This gets my vote. Some the others were funny, but this is a huge package, and the title sums it up nicely.
Something like this would be awesome, but I also want to see the return of ODST style Firefight.
I believe because the DLC was part of the packaged "Season Pass" that people got when buying the Limited Edition, but was still available as a separate pre-order for others not long after. In general it was the first map pack DLC that was $9.99 retail (I believe) and folks were just getting it for free (due to a glitch) while there were people that had already PRE-PAID for it.
Oh that's not too bad. Still, wonder why he was banned...
Oh... it was only for 14 days though. Did that really bother people that much...
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Fyre says he's not perma'd.
btw, if I ever get perma'd hold my funeral on Halo 2 Sanctuary, please.
btw, if I ever get perma'd hold my funeral on Halo 2 Sanctuary, please.
Welfare
Member
Well, if Speedy was banned so he could "grow up", I guess he was banned for insanity. IDK
Halo 3 Narrows.
