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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo

Daigoro

Member
sorry if this has been discussed, but is there a $60 digital version to buy, or just $70? im only seeing the $70 one up for sale on xbox.com, but i haven't checked via the console itself yet.
 

Mix

Member
sorry if this has been discussed, but is there a $60 digital version to buy, or just $70? im only seeing the $70 one up for sale on xbox.com, but i haven't checked via the console itself yet.

I'm not sure what you're seeing bud, but it's showing 60 for me
Rgjyn5h.png
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I may need to look into doing that. How's the connection quality?

I haven't used that Netgear model, but I've used similar ones. The connection quality is surprisingly good, but it really depends on how the electric wiring in your house is routed. Basically the sender has to go to the breaker box and from there to the receiver. If they are both far from the breaker box, the signal will be iffy. Also, they need to be plugged directly into the wall, no surge protectors or power strips.

That said, they can work really well. I used one to stream Netflix/Amazon in HD, but I never did much gaming on it to test that aspect.
 

Daigoro

Member
I'm not sure what you're seeing bud, but it's showing 60 for me
https://i.imgur.com/Rgjyn5h.png[/IM][/QUOTE]

huh. i just looked at my URL and it looks like my ISP at work is sending me to xbox CA. that must be it because im seeing the same image as the one you posted, but for 69.99 instead.

should be fine when i get home. guess im going digital with this one. i need a damn external drive for this sucker though, damn xbone HD is full. feels good to be excited about Halo again!

ok, thanks!
 

Booshka

Member
So how many years until it takes Microsoft to release MCC as a PC game? Over/Under is two years.

Gonna bet the over myself.
 

Grexeno

Member
Just play Halo CE if you want a badass Pistol.

BTW, if you have 3 or more upload, you should be streaming. You can hit 2K bitrate at 720p streaming with 3 upload easy. Get some sort of capture device, or OBS on PC and stream. HaloGAF will prolly watch.
So I guess this would be good:

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RowdyReverb

Member
So how many years until it takes Microsoft to release MCC as a PC game? Over/Under is two years.

Gonna bet the over myself.

I don't think it will happen. I'd be glad to eat those words, but I just don't see them being motivated enough to do it. MS Game Studios rarely makes PC games. Only recent one I can think of is Spartan Assault. Were there other ones in the past few years?
 

Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Oddly enough, even though my XBL Gamertag was linked to that BNet account, I was allowed to create a new account with the same Tag linked in the leadup to Destiny.

I guess their Halo-related forum database was basically wiped during the transition to all things Destiny.

Current trending topics in the BNet "OffTopic" Forum:

"So I found out that I'm adopted"
"I Think a Girl Might Finally Like Me !"
"Not sure why I am so emotional today but...thought I'd share."
"I am growing facial hair !"
"How do super religious people handle their sexual frustrations?"
Where is this thread so I can tell them about mormon porn.
 

AlStrong

Member
I don't think it will happen. I'd be glad to eat those words, but I just don't see them being motivated enough to do it.

I don't see why not, especially if it's 1 year away or more. PC-centric gamers have waited since Halo 2 Vista.

They've just done the bulk of the legwork for Halo 3/4 in particular, considering the Xbox One's architecture. What's left is ripping out XBL connection and making use of Steam features.
 

Cow

Member
Xbox one november update: Achievement images can be used as custom background. Can't wait to use some of those awesome achievement images from MCC.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Xbox one november update: Achievement images can be used as custom background. Can't wait to use some of those awesome achievement images from MCC.
Seriously. I'm honestly shocked that MS is giving us hundreds of free backgrounds, lol. I expected them to be $1 each.
 

Madness

Member
Good thing about my Internet setup now, while I no longer have a 50+ download speed, I still get like 22-25 but because it's part of my fiber optic television connection, it's unlimited data. So it's a good compromise. I've never tried to do as much as ExWife though. Don't think I've ever gone above 200gb or something.
 
Although being able to set unlocked achievements as Home background is cool, you'll also be able to apply any custom pic as a background.
 

JDHarbs

Member
They're really just pics though, not themes. Seems redundant to charge for something that anyone could download from the internet to set as their background.
 
They're really just pics though, not themes. Seems redundant to charge for something that anyone could download from the internet to set as their background.

Achievement backgrounds only (lock it or something),
15$ to unlock and use whatever.
Problem solved.
 
Xbox one november update: Achievement images can be used as custom background. Can't wait to use some of those awesome achievement images from MCC.

This is actually really cool. It could give people an incentive other than large amounts of gamerscore to get harder achievements. Getting a hard achievement might give you a rare, cool background.
 
This is actually really cool. It could give people an incentive other than large amounts of gamerscore to get harder achievements. Getting a hard achievement might give you a rare, cool background.

Except the vast majority of games use the same achievement tile for most, if not all, achievements, or just a selection of a handful of tiles for all of them.

It's a rare game that has different tiles for every achievement.

TBH I don't even bother looking at them anymore because I got so fed up with how long it takes the 'achievements app' to load. When I popped an achievement on 360, I could just hit the guide button and immediately see it. When I pop on on XB1 I have to hold the guide button for a couple seconds, then sit and wait while that white loading circle spins. It's incredibly annoying when you're someone who's been chasing gamerscore as long as I have, and one of a multitude of reasons I'm mostly abandoning the gamerscore train once I pass 400,000. It's just not worth the time investment anymore.

I haven't looked at the Halo:MCC tiles (if they've even been revealed), but I hope at least this collection is inventive with some of the harder ones. I'd hate to see the same tile repeated 50-100 times and only a selection of 5 or 10 tiles in total.
 

Booshka

Member
Chasing achievements has never been worth the time investment, outside of maybe Dead Rising 1 for Xbox 360. Even that could have been just cool shit you tried or competed with friends to do.

It was an interesting experiment in gaming psychology, but it failed halfway through the last-gen and the shitty remnants of it is relegated to Free to Play games.

Play the games the way you want to, ask your friends and the internet what they did with their games, and let that be your guide to doing goofy, asinine shit in video games. Achievements/Trophies is some shallow bullshit that is rarely done right.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Chasing achievements has never been worth the time investment, outside of maybe Dead Rising 1 for Xbox 360. Even that could have been just cool shit you tried or competed with friends to do.

It was an interesting experiment in gaming psychology, but it failed halfway through the last-gen and the shitty remnants of it is relegated to Free to Play games.

Play the games the way you want to, ask your friends and the internet what they did with their games, and let that be your guide to doing goofy, asinine shit in video games. Achievements/Trophies is some shallow bullshit that is rarely done right.
Eh, there's nothing wrong with people enjoying them. I don't get it either and I ignore them 99% of the time, but I don't get to define fun for people.
 
Since powerline ethernet came up, anyone know if you can use them as more of a network, rather than just point to point? That is one in one room connected to the router and two+ in other rooms feeding from it?
 
Except the vast majority of games use the same achievement tile for most, if not all, achievements, or just a selection of a handful of tiles for all of them.

It's a rare game that has different tiles for every achievement.

TBH I don't even bother looking at them anymore because I got so fed up with how long it takes the 'achievements app' to load. When I popped an achievement on 360, I could just hit the guide button and immediately see it. When I pop on on XB1 I have to hold the guide button for a couple seconds, then sit and wait while that white loading circle spins. It's incredibly annoying when you're someone who's been chasing gamerscore as long as I have, and one of a multitude of reasons I'm mostly abandoning the gamerscore train once I pass 400,000. It's just not worth the time investment anymore.

I haven't looked at the Halo:MCC tiles (if they've even been revealed), but I hope at least this collection is inventive with some of the harder ones. I'd hate to see the same tile repeated 50-100 times and only a selection of 5 or 10 tiles in total.

There are definitely some games (destiny) which use the same art for multiple achievements, but a lot of the games I have come with a lot of achievement art. Maybe this will give developers an incentive to include cool art for future games. I think its a safe bet to assume that future first party titles will take advantage of this.
 
Chasing achievements has never been worth the time investment, outside of maybe Dead Rising 1 for Xbox 360. Even that could have been just cool shit you tried or competed with friends to do.

It was an interesting experiment in gaming psychology, but it failed halfway through the last-gen and the shitty remnants of it is relegated to Free to Play games.

Play the games the way you want to, ask your friends and the internet what they did with their games, and let that be your guide to doing goofy, asinine shit in video games. Achievements/Trophies is some shallow bullshit that is rarely done right.

There are still a lot of games that have really great achievements. But they're drowned out by the sea of bullshit, movie spin-offs, shameless cash-grabs, etc.

Seems like almost every game apart from a select few these days has 'the usual suspects', aka:

1. Achievements for every level completion or sets of levels/game completion
2. Achievement for highest difficulty
3. Collectibles. Fucking. Damn. Collectibles.
4. More collectibles, sometimes of another type.
5. Multiplayer achievements to justify the multiplayer's existence, when it sucks (Tomb Raider Anniversary is a prime example)
6. Usually some sort of experience/levelling up
7. Maybe, just maybe, a unique/cool achievement that actually leads you to experience something fun in the game.


TL ; DR - companies should hire former or current achievement hunters to help them write their achievement lists. Of course then they couldn't use collectibles and other asinine shit to keep people playing even when a game has overstayed its welcome.

With Halo: MCC the achievement list is a little love/hate. I love all the easter egg achievements, because it will lead people to see some of these cool/weird things that the devs put into the game. I also like the LASO achievements, because I like a challenge.

I don't like that there are achievements for completing every level in every game, because come on. Just give me an achievement for beating each of the 4 titles, and another perhaps for beating them on legendary or even solo legendary. That's between 4 and 8 achievements rather than the 60+ achievements spread across the 4 titles for level completions and beating the games on all 4 difficulties. Not to mention 50/100/150/200/250...500 multiplayer wins. You could just have one for say, 50 wins and another for 500 and call it a day. Same goes for 1000..... 10,000 medals, and "X" kills up to 20,000 kills, "X" up to 500 missions/matches, etc.

All these achievements water down what would've otherwise been one of the greatest achievement lists ever made. I think the list could easily be paired down to around 150-200 achievements and still include all the great easter egg and challenge ones, without all the 'filler' ones.

I guess their thinking was that they want people regularly unlocking achievements as they play, without having to play a "specific" way or an achievement-oriented way, and the hope is that those periodic achievement unlocks will keep people coming back for more. It sounds great in theory, but I just feel like the sheer size of the list, being 400 achievements, is not only daunting for some players but just too much noise distracting from the really great ones they've put in there.
 

Madness

Member
Chasing achievements has never been worth the time investment, outside of maybe Dead Rising 1 for Xbox 360. Even that could have been just cool shit you tried or competed with friends to do.

It was an interesting experiment in gaming psychology, but it failed halfway through the last-gen and the shitty remnants of it is relegated to Free to Play games.

Play the games the way you want to, ask your friends and the internet what they did with their games, and let that be your guide to doing goofy, asinine shit in video games. Achievements/Trophies is some shallow bullshit that is rarely done right.

Yup, I'm so over achievements I wish I could turn them off. I literally play different if I have a look at the achievements first because sometimes I feel compelled to do something to get an achievement that I normally wouldn't have done. Oh, there's an achievement for walking on foot in a Halo level and never getting in a vehicle, might as well do that no matter how boring or unfun it is etc.

Even if some are done well, I'd rather I could have the ability to turn them off altogether. Not see them, not have them unlock etc. I don't begrudge others who love them though.
 

Daigoro

Member
There are still a lot of games that have really great achievements. But they're drowned out by the sea of bullshit, movie spin-offs, shameless cash-grabs, etc.

Seems like almost every game apart from a select few these days has 'the usual suspects', aka:

1. Achievements for every level completion or sets of levels/game completion
2. Achievement for highest difficulty
3. Collectibles. Fucking. Damn. Collectibles.
4. More collectibles, sometimes of another type.
5. Multiplayer achievements to justify the multiplayer's existence, when it sucks (Tomb Raider Anniversary is a prime example)
6. Usually some sort of experience/levelling up
7. Maybe, just maybe, a unique/cool achievement that actually leads you to experience something fun in the game.


TL ; DR - companies should hire former or current achievement hunters to help them write their achievement lists. Of course then they couldn't use collectibles and other asinine shit to keep people playing even when a game has overstayed its welcome.

With Halo: MCC the achievement list is a little love/hate. I love all the easter egg achievements, because it will lead people to see some of these cool/weird things that the devs put into the game. I also like the LASO achievements, because I like a challenge.

I don't like that there are achievements for completing every level in every game, because come on. Just give me an achievement for beating each of the 4 titles, and another perhaps for beating them on legendary or even solo legendary. That's between 4 and 8 achievements rather than the 60+ achievements spread across the 4 titles for level completions and beating the games on all 4 difficulties. Not to mention 50/100/150/200/250...500 multiplayer wins. You could just have one for say, 50 wins and another for 500 and call it a day. Same goes for 1000..... 10,000 medals, and "X" kills up to 20,000 kills, "X" up to 500 missions/matches, etc.

All these achievements water down what would've otherwise been one of the greatest achievement lists ever made. I think the list could easily be paired down to around 150-200 achievements and still include all the great easter egg and challenge ones, without all the 'filler' ones.

I guess their thinking was that they want people regularly unlocking achievements as they play, without having to play a "specific" way or an achievement-oriented way, and the hope is that those periodic achievement unlocks will keep people coming back for more. It sounds great in theory, but I just feel like the sheer size of the list, being 400 achievements, is not only daunting for some players but just too much noise distracting from the really great ones they've put in there.

good post. i totally agree. there are SO many achievements in this collection they will just be popping all the time.

the list verges on great, but spirals out of control for sure. all the 5 points here, 5 points there ones will get old quick, making the more special and fun ones to get a bit less special.

its definitely a decent list overall, but its decidedly too bloated. less achievements worth more points would have been better. too many repeats, too many worthless 5pts for doing nothing achievements.

imagine what the Activity Feed is going to look like for a few weeks. yikes.
 

MaxRealflugel

Neo Member
Besides the H4 prologue, where else does it state or show that he has before?

Throughout the novels, there are moments when you feel the weight of the Chief's battle experience -- the loss of his comrades, experiencing the Flood etc. But the biggest indicator is the Prologue to Halo 4 and the various cut scenes, including the final one.

It's mainly in the subtext of the novels that you pick up on what he's having to deal with.
 
When I asked why he was so homophobic he replied by saying "because it's gay". At the point I laughed at his stupidity and he became even more enraged. I was in absolute hysterics when other random people starting chiming in and he started calling them gay as well.

Sadly, this is the third time this week I've delt with homophobes and/or racists on XBL.

Yeah - I tried to put in as much of his "charm" as possible, but fucking H4 feels like it has to be the loudest thing in 3 counties all the damn time, even with the voice settings all the way up :/
 
I tend to have fun with people who rage like that, the best is this scenario.

After a period of trash talk.

Anon: rageeee! 1v1 me bro

Me: let's fucking do it, quit this game and invite me.

Anon quits, leaving their team a man down, I proceed to not join him and also block communications with him. Lolololol

Been successful three times using this method, once with Karl and Dax in the party.
 
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