They were probably looking for enemies, considering they don't have the luxury of a giant waypoint telling them exactly where they are.
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They were probably looking for enemies, considering they don't have the luxury of a giant waypoint telling them exactly where they are.
Why not? It's not like it wasn't so in the previous Halo games. Also, would you rather like more QTE's?
Blue Ninja
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Hitmonchan107
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Anyone watching the MLG stream?
I am.
Shake Appeal
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What's the Euro HaloGAF league?
Of course.
And guys listen to Blue Ninja, everyone from Europe should join us in the Euro HaloGAF League
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498373
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YourExWife
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har har har. Protecting the flag carrier made too much sense, eh?
Blue Ninja
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Euro HaloGAF League.
Well, some people in the FGC prefer sitting on the floor.
Well, the problem is if they stick close to the flag carrier, attacking enemies will probably get the first shot because there's a waypoint above whatever area they're in. It makes more sense to leave the flag carrier alone and attempt to get better angles on enemies. No one wants to hang out below a waypoint because they're exposed to nades, the enemies can see where they're moving and they have a much tougher time getting the first shot in any encounter.
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Hitmonchan107
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These kids are clearly jacked up on Halo 4 Mountain Dew.
Honestly, I think you'll find the auto pick up is the biggest annoying thing about the new CTF. The waypoint sucks because there are no sneaky caps now, but it doesn't strike me as too big a deal. If anything, it helps to deal with randoms.
Also, the stream is too laggy for me on this shitty school wifi.
That's not the Euro HaloGAF League Ryan you silly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498373
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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I didn't see CSR discussion for over 5+ pages of history. Could someone please summarise the key points discussed on GAF?
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I was referring strictly to how it plays, but you pose a good point about how it "watches", although I'd then have to argue that it would then be the broadcaster's job to depict the flag movement through the stream had there not been a KILL waypoint. If you're solely saying that the KILL waypoint alone makes CTF more disgestable to watch then I guess just agree to disagree, otherwise CTF definitely (as a whole) looks much more fun to watch.
xxjuicesxx
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No its just a timer above the flag. Don't think standing on it actually helps or anything.
We should replace the word Waypoint with Terrible.
"Man I like flag but whats with that Terrible indicator?"
"I dont know man but checkout all those cats in the weekly update on the Terrible webpage."
Waypoint drastically changes the game for the worse though. Auto-pickup will occassionally be annoying, but the waypoint is going to make every flag run annoying and frustrating.
Deputy Moonman
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Incorrect. Its already out evident by the hordes of people already playing it. Excellent release plan! I know im being a pissy pants but its still really annoyinhg.
Poker Face
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1-50 similar to Halo 2 or 3 only viewable on waypoint sometime early next year. (Some playlists will be ranked, others will not)
Hitmonchan107
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"Someone loves Snipedown a lot."
"Other than his parents..."
Aw snap.
"Other than his parents..."
Aw snap.
No, it's a 3 second return time and 15 reset time. There's a message showing up when they sit on the flag (probably saying "Returning flag" or something), there's no bar though.
Deadly Cyclone
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Has nothing to do with "release plan." Has everything to do with stores breaking rules.
I didn't feel any drastic change. If anything, I felt there were less of those inching the flag long games. Where you touch it and move it 5 feet every 30 seconds.
Most of the time when the flag is stolen you know where it is. Teammates know where it is. If you're communicating you all know where it is. This will help playing CTF with randoms.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Thanks, so it's confirmed not to be in game at all? That seems...half ass'd.
YourExWife
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Yeah, there was never a waypoint when teams would get an extermination, pull the flag, and start juggling on the way home. C'mon.
There wasn't even anyone close enough to sprint and pick it back up. Hell they weren't even shooting the enemy as he sat there returning it.
Standard practice to clear the way for the runner and watch their back. And usually have one person with them in tandem if they die while trying to score. Think Countdown MLG CTF but a little slower. His team goofed hard, plain and simple.
Thanks. Just needed the rules, which are shown on both versions anyway.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Confirmed, for now. Frank noted they could put it in down the road in a TU.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Cannot agree more. Simply removing that waypoint or changing it so that you have 5 secs from when you pick it up for it to appear would make CTF so much better and letting you drop it or hold button to pick up.
You're not coupling that with the inability to drop the flag. The KILL waypoint wouldn't be as bad if you could sprint with the flag or juggle it to get more distance..
Shame you on for trying to defend this so poorly!
Poker Face
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presumably to prevent cheating. i don't like it, but it may change if we bitch enough.
check your PMs
bottom part of the map is blocked off so it may play differently in matchmaking
Hitmonchan107
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I'm worried about Solace. This is the second time I've seen a team get the lead and hide in the jungle-side base.
YourExWife
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but that's nothing to do with team positioning. Wouldn't you want to be even more protective of the flag runner?
that wasn't even in the game
For all of Reach's faults, it did give me this .gif.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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They should just put CSR in 1 or 2 playlists and keep the cheaters there and the "I want my rank" players there too.
At least we'd know which playlists to avoid if we don't care about rank or want to avoid cheaters.
At least we'd know which playlists to avoid if we don't care about rank or want to avoid cheaters.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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zZz
Aren't both bases geometrically symmetrical? <--sounds slick :b
Thats the result of a few things, most importantly personal ordnance and slow global ordnance system. Like I said months ago, if you allow teams to just hold power positions and call in powerups to their exact location, there's absolutely no incentive for them to move. Yeah, the RL spawning in the middle occassionally is a start, but you need to incentivise teams to move around the map and do it often, and I don't think you can really do that while there's Personal Ordnance. Couple the existing system with a lack of grenades and you have a recipe for camping.
If you had the Rockets spawning and an Oversheild or Active Camo on the otherside every couple of minutes without Personal Ordnances, camping one spot would be a lot less viable. Slow kill times and easy aiming also add to the problems, but that's not something we can change at this point.
The bases are a bit too labyrinthine for my liking. Lots of corners and passageways for people to hide in. I can really see teams just sitting in there with their ordnance after taking the lead and being really difficult to clear out. The bottom of the map being open will give one more way in but not a great one. Jetpacking up to the snipe spawn gives another option as well.
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:|
Although the silver lining is that this is the first time you have posted without using 'mate.'
Hitmonchan107
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Hopefully it won't be so bad in matchmaking.
Halo 4 Grand Finals: Warriors vs. Ambush.
Here's the link to the MLG team stream. Click mlg_halo_4 to see the match.
YourExWife
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isn't there also some slight verticality differences between the two bases' interiors? I mean like accessible ledges and the like. Also, doesn't jungle have windows in the front walls in parts?
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