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[willow ve]

Because 343's decisions stopped making sense a long time ago.

Also - people don't seem to understand the term "balance."

And I'm glad we're all bitching about the CTF changes again. They were shit when they were announced and they're still shit now.

 

[IHaveIce]

We're talking about players spawning, right?

I think I talked about this with you last night. One team spawns at the bigger, wider ramps that looks out over an edge while the other team spawns at the smaller ramp with a wall at the bag. It also seems to be slightly more elevated.

Maybe it isn't that big of a deal but it's pretty damn weird when you consider there are perfectly fine symmetrical spawns on the map.

I think the symmetrical spawns are too close, but I don't know.
I was also pretty surprised when I learned about the actual spawns.

 

[heckfu]

Watching Sig is like a roller coaster. It has its ups, its downs, its twists, its turns, and at the end of it all; you start back at the beginning.

That was the deepest post this thread will see.

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

I lurk quite often and I've posted a few times in this thread, but since I'm planning to pick up Halo 4,I think it's time to get more involved with the community

So hi! I'm me, I'm from the EU, and I'm more of a campaign guy

 

[aj1467]

Managed to snag Halo 3, ODST, and CEA for a combined total of $24.

Recently unemployed. I'm like Batman with prep-time when it comes to deals and coupons.

Still looking for someone to possibly go through CEA on Legendary.

I'll play CEA with you at somepoint. Need to do it on Legendary.

 

[FyreWulff]

Does it show what playlist someone is in? It annoyed me in Reach that it just said "Matchmaking in Multiplayer" or "Matchmaking in Firefight" whereas Halo 3 said which playlist the peson was in.

That's called the Rich Presence, and more games are starting to ignore it Rock Band 3 will say exactly what song someone is playing, Rock Band Blitz just says "Playing a song". I wonder if modders ruined that for everyone.

 

[Slightly Live]

So what about the depictions of the Jackals in every other game, comic and book thus far? Will they be retconned? Is a sneaky Datadrop going to hit Waypoint in two years explaining why these Jackals look different?

 

[Omni]

The trees on Longbow look terrible. They're flat.

I'll add it to my list of things in the game that look stupid from a visual standpoint.

• Terrain textures
• Elites
• Grunts
• Jackals
• Human weapons
• Chief's ass
• Forge pieces
• Forge maps
• Human NPCs (Marines/ODST... etcetera)
• Spartan helmets
• Spartan armour in general
• The lack of grass
• 2D sky box (as opposed to Bungie's amazing creations in Reach)
• Mantis
• Trees

 

[EvB]

Spoiler

I know what you're saying, but still, WTF Covenant redesigns

You have to see the bigger picture, would the old grunt designs of looked right had they of made a movie? The new Jackals certainly are more menacing looking than the weird Dr Seuss flamingo lizards of days gone by.

 

[Homeboyd]

Visor looks awful here.

Speaking of, TWP would like to know 'sup with the trees? Earlier build or are those things, things?

 

[cocamola]

I submitted my custom didact wallpaper/xbox360 background to the Halo waypoint news
feed.
(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43496704&postcount=1051)
Didn't even get as much the auto reply message gutted

 

[Holiday]

My biggest complaints have to do with the base gameplay; slow strafe, slow movement, slow kill speed, easy to use weapons, randomized gameplay features.

For me, it's really sprint that is the knife to the heart, because it allows for slow base speed but covers it up with the appearance of faster gameplay. Give me no sprint (and no random weapon mechanics (lol dream on, right?)) and I'll let Steitzer grumble in my ear all day. Hell, I might even tolerate notifications.

 

[nillapuddin]

GAF™

 

[Tashi]

I lurk quite often and I've posted a few times in this thread, but since I'm planning to pick up Halo 4,I think it's time to get more involved with the community

So hi! I'm me, and I'm more of a campaign guy

Well, you're in luck!

 

[Tha Robbertster]

I think the symmetrical spawns are too close, but I don't know.
I was also pretty surprised when I learned about the actual spawns.

They're also pretty close on Zealot. Doesn't really matter there. It just means the fighting will start faster when a game starts. Isn't that what 343 wants: People jumping into the action immediately?

 

[ArchedThunder]

The trees on Longbow look terrible. They're flat.

I'll add it to my list of things in the game that look stupid from a visual standpoint.

• Terrain textures
• Elites
• Grunts
• Jackals
• Human weapons
• Chief's ass
• Forge pieces
• Forge maps
• Human NPCs (Marines/ODST... etcetera)
• Spartan helmets
• Spartan armour in general
• The lack of grass
  [*]2D sky box (as opposed to Bungie's amazing creations in Reach)
• Mantis
• Trees

lol

 

[Overdoziz]

^^^^ that thing still looks ridiculous. Like a piranha and Godzilla had a child.



We're talking about players spawning, right?

I think I talked about this with you last night. One team spawns at the bigger, wider ramps that looks out over an edge while the other team spawns at the smaller ramp with a wall at the bag. It also seems to be slightly more elevated.

Maybe it isn't that big of a deal but it's pretty damn weird when you consider there are perfectly fine symmetrical spawns on the map.

We're talking about initial player spawns, yes. It'd be like like having one team spawn at top gold on while the other team spawns at holograms on Zealot. I guess if it's balanced (For lack of better term) on Haven it doesn't matter that much but if you have a symmetrical map why not just put the initial spawn on each symmetrical side.

I think the symmetrical spawns are too close, but I don't know.
I was also pretty surprised when I learned about the actual spawns.

I think the width of the map is about as long and the length. Maybe a bit shorter.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Well, you're in luck, as you don't intend to make clips/screenshots of it!

fixed

FrankerZ pls

 

[Mister Negative]

The trees on Longbow look terrible. They're flat.

I'll add it to my list of things in the game that look stupid from a visual standpoint.

man the impostor system doesn't work very well at all

 

[EvB]

So what about the depictions of the Jackals in every other game, comic and book thus far? Will they be retconned? Is a sneaky Datadrop going to hit Waypoint in two years explaining why these Jackals look different?

Why do they need to? Nobody blinks an eye that 007 has looked quite significantly different over the last 50 times.

I don't hear people complaining that the Pelicans have a higher Polygon count in the 360 versions of Halo, this we need an explanation in the fiction as to why they look different.

 

[Omni]

lol

Have you seen the sky boxes in Reach? Say what you will about the art style, they looked great.

 

[El_Chino]

Wow, there's been a lot of complaining in the last few pages.

 

[.shin]

My biggest complaints have to do with the base gameplay; slow strafe, slow movement, slow kill speed, easy to use weapons, randomized gameplay features.

Slow? wat.

 

[DopeyFish]

i dont mind the armor

because i just think of reach and how everyone blended in with the environment way too much

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

Well, you're in luck!

Would that be because the campaign is shaping up to be awesome or because the community is awesome?

 

[EvB]

Slow? wat.

I'll second that.

Wat?

It's insanely fast compare to 3/Reach!

 

[Woorloog]

I lurk quite often and I've posted a few times in this thread, but since I'm planning to pick up Halo 4,I think it's time to get more involved with the community

So hi! I'm me, and I'm more of a campaign guy

Welcome!
And...
Europe or US or what?
Mostly impractical to play co-op with non-europeans, from an european's viewpoint. Timezones and latency issues you know.

 

[JHall]

Wow, there's been a lot of complaining in the last few pages.

Is this your first time here?

 

[YourExWife]

That was the deepest post this thread will see.

Well, hello there Dr.

 

[BigShow36]

Slow? wat.

Yes, slow. "Faster than Reach" is still slow.

 

[Plywood]

Wow, there's been a lot of complaining in the last few pages.

Thread needs to chillout and if you agree with my sentiment, don't quote me. Just. don't. post.

I'd like to imagine that when the H4 OT goes up it won't be filled up before the lot of you even get a copy of the game in your hands.

 

[VanquishUK]

My biggest complaints have to do with the base gameplay; slow strafe, slow movement, slow kill speed, easy to use weapons, randomized gameplay features.

Lol, that's just plain wrong.

 

[LD2k]

I submitted my custom didact wallpaper/xbox360 background to the Halo waypoint news
feed.
(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43496704&postcount=1051)
Didn't even get as much the auto reply message gutted

Saw this when you originally posted it. It's awesome!

 

[El_Chino]

Is this your first time here?

Haha not by any means, it's just everything was all fine and dandy until we received some unconfirmed news about no theater for campaign.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

Why do they need to? Nobody blinks an eye that 007 has looked quite significantly different over the last 50 times.

I don't hear people complaining that the Pelicans have a higher Polygon count in the 360 versions of Halo, this we need an explanation in the fiction as to why they look different.

Come on, those aren't fair comparisons at all. Of course they can't keep using the same actor for a movie that has had so many iterations. And the pelican stayed mostly the same, design wise from CE to Reach.

The Halo 4 Jackal however, and his head in particular, looks very different from the previous Jackals. The older Jackals looked bird like, while the ones in 4 have lost that look.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

I'd like to imagine that when the H4 OT goes up it won't be filled up before the lot of you even get a copy of the game in your hands.

You mean in the 7 days before most people get the game?

Spoiler

Shit, I quoted you. Oh well, the damage is done. And so I fear, am I.

 

[JHall]

Lol, that's just plain wrong.

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

Welcome!
And...
Europe or US or what?
Mostly impractical to play co-op with non-europeans, from an european's viewpoint. Timezones and latency issues you know.

Woops, I'm from the EU, Holland to be precise.
By the way, when I say that I'm more of campaign guy I mean that I'm mostly looking forward to playing Halo 4 campaign rather than the MP. I've still played a lot of Halo 3 and Reach MP

 

[Hydranockz]

We're talking about initial player spawns, yes. It'd be like like having one team spawn at top gold on while the other team spawns at holograms on Zealot. I guess if it's balanced on Haven it doesn't matter that much but if you have a symmetrical map why not just put the initial spawn on each symmetrical side.

I think the width of the map is about as long and the length. Maybe a bit shorter.

Yeah, I agree. Also, with Haven's spawns as it is now, players have 6 directions to go; Forward, left or right and then the same for the level below. Looking at it from a purely mirrored spawn you'd only have 4 because that middle strut exists in an equal distance from both spawns.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Have you seen the sky boxes in Reach? Say what you will about the art style, they looked great.

I wasn't talking about Reach's skyboxes. Halo 4's are not 2D.

Also Reach had tons of massive gaping holes in the skyboxes.

 

[EvB]

Looks like a just got memberised. Time to start acting like a giant member , bring me some juniors to patronise!

 

[Digital Limit]

I'm going to step off my sarcasm pulpit for a moment to clarify. Most of the stuff I post is hyperbole, making a big fuss about things mostly because I think it's hilarious and not really because I think its a huge deal. While I hate change for the sake of chage, some of the changes 3434 has made could turn out alright.

My biggest complaints have to do with the base gameplay; slow strafe, slow movement, slow kill speed, easy to use weapons, randomized gameplay features. I already know I probably won't play Halo 4 for long, not because of all these little changes and alterations, but because in the end, the base gameplay will be the same as Halo 3 and Reach. It's going to be slow with a imited shooting skill gap and focus almost exclusively on teamshot. Until the underlying issues are resolved (which they wont be), auto pickup and having a flagnum really aren't huge deals to me. I don't necessarily like them and I think a lot of them are unnecessary, but they are insiginificant next to slow base gameplay.

I mean, at some point you're playing Call of Duty—the "slowness" you're talking about is really what separates these two shooters.

Halo rewards teamwork quite heavily as you noted: team shooting is crucial to victory. But the game has in fact been sped up. Everyone has sprint. You can respawn almost instantly. Armor abilities stack on top of sprint to add even more movement speed bonuses. You can even reload faster with Dexterity. What you're missing then is simply faster kill speed (welcome to BlopsII (Reach still has SWAT)) or harder to use weapons (I don't even know what that would entail... there's certainly a precision to the DMR/Battlerifle).

 

[Hydranockz]

So Vic had an interesting tweet if it pertains to Halo 4.

https://twitter.com/vicdeleon/status/260873588788301824

No Strip Halo at launch

 

[EvB]

Come on, those aren't fair comparisons at all. Of course they can't keep using the same actor for a movie that has had so many iterations. And the pelican stayed mostly the same, design wise from CE to Reach.

The Halo 4 Jackal however, and his head in particular, looks very different from the previous Jackals. The older Jackals looked bird like, while the ones in 4 have lost that look.

I was probably stretching it a little with the 007 thing. I'm sure if they do feel like explaining it , it'll be along the lines of 'Even on earth humans have variances in skin color and bone structure, the same thing happens on the covenant species home worlds'

 

[Karl2177]

Looks like a just got memberised. Time to start acting like a giant member , bring me some juniors to patronise!

Here's one.

 

[.shin]

Yes, slow. "Faster than Reach" is still slow.

Being faster than Halo 3 and Reach is slow, huh?

 

[heckfu]

Looks like a just got memberised. Time to start acting like a giant member , bring me some juniors to patronise!

Here's one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

 

[kittens]

Looks like a just got memberised. Time to start acting like a giant member , bring me some juniors to patronise!

Also make sure to wax nostalgic about the good ol' days of OT10.

 

[IHaveIce]

Woops, I'm from the EU, Holland to be precise.
By the way, when I say that I'm more of campaign guy I mean that I'm mostly looking forward to playing Halo 4 campaign rather than the MP. I've still played a lot of Halo 3 and Reach MP

Oh another dutch guy? You guys planning an overtake? Just kidding, welcome.
If you want send me an pm for GT, I'm also from Europe

So Vic had an interesting tweet if it pertains to Halo 4.

https://twitter.com/vicdeleon/status/260873588788301824

Oh interesting.

 

[DopeyFish]

So Vic had an interesting tweet if it pertains to Halo 4.

https://twitter.com/vicdeleon/status/260873588788301824

When talking about strip halo fyi