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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
- Thread starter Overdoziz
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Forge playlist home boy!
User 73706
Banned
Slut, can I start calling you Pubes or something now that you're MerkinMax?
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
No I'm not using it like that!
Maybe not your guys' area, but if that playlist sticks around past this week, any chances of having some gametypes added? Lockout Oddball and King, CTF Despair (not sure about this one), maybe Oddball/King Scythe.
(then a severe reduction in Slayer weighting because I just can't stand Infinity Slayer and don't have the party count to force the vote away from it)
MrGreencastle
Member
Seriously dude, troll more.
User 73706
Banned
TOO LATE PUBES
Zeouterlimits
Member
... and onto the ignore list you go.
I don't like Halo 4, in so many ways. But you're just writing dumb potshotty posts.
Hilarious! 10/10!
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Literally the first person iv ever ignored . Gratz
xxjuicesxx
Member
The Bulletin is the highlight of my Wednesday workday.
Question: Whats the timers on the weapons in the lockout remake? 3 or 2 min?
People just now have started noticing it? O_O
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
StalkerUKCG
Banned
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Ha. Pubes
Could've sworn it was 3 from the two games I just played.
As I say, Community Test is a huge improvement. Whilst it's still miles away from where it needs to be, it's very promising, and most importantly offers a glimmer of hope.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I don't get to read the thread often theses days, I miss 80% of the posts, just seen this guy in the past few days occasionally.
Call it whatever you want; somewhere along the line their decison making went astray. They didn't have a clear understanding or vision of what Halo should be, so things broke down. Every business deals with this stuff every day, trust me. Work is hard, making things happen is hard, improving things is hard. If you don't have a clear understanding of what your audience wants or expects from your product, you fail.
In the real world, there is no excuse. Them being a "new" company is not an excuse. Them not having enough time is not an excuse. Them wanting to add to Halo is not an excuse. We can make up reasons all day long, but in the end they failed to deliver.
Why are we so quick to give video game developers a break on this kind of stuff, especially when they have such a solid foundation from which to work? They're given amazing material to work with and they make it into some convoluted, confused end-product and people all over are defending them for it. I don't get it.
'Static'. From what I've heard they spawn X minutes after someone picks them up instead of them spawning every X minutes.
I did this exact thing with Halo 2. I was playing an unbelievably close, excellent game of Team Slayer on Lockout, my team had an amazing 12 kill comeback. Score hits 49-48 in our favor then the game goes to blue screen. Some asshole on the other team lagswitched the connection, come back from blue screen running into a wall with the score reading 49-50; we lose. Amazing game ruined by some salty asshole, I ejected the disc and chucked it out the front door. Didn't get another copy for months after that.
I don't have nearly enough passion for Halo 4 to do something like that. I just calmly put it away about a week after release. Now I look at it, thinking, maybe I'll finish the stupid campaign in that game, ehh probably not.
Same.
For the first time since I removed Halo 4 from it's infuriating shrink-wrapped shell, I've had that unfamiliar sensation of wanting to keep playing, and go for another game. Halo's fun, but it's taken until late January to get a taste of it.
Instant respawn can still go, for my liking. A ranking system would work wonders, also. And Armour Abilities and Ordnance are completely superfluous, in my opinion. Besides that, though, I'm having a shocking amount of fun.
Again, congratulations to all those involved in making these early but necessary changes.
Rand0m TAG
Member
Is the forge playlist that good? Didn't bother trying it because of how shitty forge maps were in reach and 3
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
EagleBurnn
Banned
It's great actually, the gametypes need adjusting though (as always)
NullPointer
Member
I know you might find this idea crazy, but some people actually really like Halo 4. So thats one thing.
But I have no idea what went into the making of it, what had to get dropped, what was forced from on-high, what avenues were explored and trashed and which ones were put off til the next game. I'm not making excuses for them, just saying that its not as simple a process to "please the Halo community" as some may think, mostly because there is no such thing as some singular Halo community. I can only imagine how many competing agendas and aspirations were at work.
Yah, the news has made me very upset and I've just been in sort of a depressed stupor because of it. I really loved Darksiders 1 and 2 (and thought 2 was a great next step, though it was flawed) so it just hurts even more knowing we'll never see 3 from this same team.
Ah, well...
In other news, I'm hesitantly excited for TUs for Halo 4. I never really followed Halo 3 or Reach's very heavily (the only time I really paid attention to significant gameplay changes was when I went from the Reach Beta to the full release where I noticed a lot of things had changed). I was always more focused on the singleplayer but I devoted huge chunks of my time to play Halo 3 MP with my good friend (a little less so with Reach).
Quick sidenote - Seems like folks here aren't big fans of snowbound but the most intense games I've had in Halo 3 were SWAT 2Flag Snowbound matches and I'll never forget them.
But on to Halo 4, I hope they at least introduce a few more Team Slayer playlists with no instant respawn (ideally, take it out entirely but that's just me being a bit greedy, I think). I think that'd be a good place to start for me to get at least a bit more active again. As much as I like being able to participate in the match almost constantly, this has the downside of creating a constant mess of combat and it never feels like there are highs and lows of a match anymore. That and being able to pick up my own kill because I get to spawn so quickly just feels wrong in some sense. However, I also feel instant respawn and the lack of permanent on-the-map respawning weapons both work hand-in-hand and both strive for the individual's gameplay experience rather than the team's.
I hate sounding negative, especially being a junior while there seems to be a mess of things going on here in HaloGAF, but I feel there are a good number of things for 343 to work on and think about for TUs for Halo 4 and I'm cautiously excited to see where they go.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
To late you are forever pubes
YES! Simplex is really good and I'm alright with Relay. Scythe is kinda meh with me and I don't like Gar(r)ote that much.
I don't enjoy it too much in Infinity Slayer, I like objective game types (especially basket... I mean Oddball), but the Forge playlist has me wanting more. So it seems like a step in the right direction and hopefully they keep going that way. (Talking about Halo 4 in general, not instant respawns.)
I don't like instant respawns too much, I'm the kind of person who likes to hurry to get back in the game, previous Halo's let me collect mself again and figure out what I wanted to do when I spawned. Now it's just press X, sprint forward, and figure out something quick
?!? That's interesting, I didn't know that. I've never been too good with timing so if I ran to a spawn and it wasn't there I always assumed that either someone beat me to it or I had come early.
NullPointer
Member
I like pubeslut. Yeah, pubeslut. Rolls off the tongue.
Computer
Member
That is a understatement. I was the hype train conductor for months. I would force everyone I knew to watch every new Halo 4 vid that came out. Then brag about how great it is going to amazballs be for hours. I even bought 2 copies so I would not have to share with my GF. Now I feel like a jackass no one I know plays the game. Playing alone makes the game 1000 times worse and my seconded copy is a coaster.
I don't really know, sorry.
I don't know off the top of my head. I wanna say 3 minutes.
EagleBurnn
Banned
You'll fit right in
I'm really enjoying it, and I hadn't played the game for around a month prior to its inclusion. I'd definitely suggest giving it a try; static weapon spawns and symmetrical maps make a huge difference in how I'm able to tolerate the inane, ancillary crust.
Rand0m TAG
Member
There's weapon drops! That alone sounds good. How are ordnance drops, hopefully toned down
But I actually like playing Halo 4 (at least with teams, I tend to stay away from playing my most beloved of multiplayer games if it means I have to play alone-- especially Halo where the team's cooperation is so important), I just have a few grievances with the game that I'd (though I'm sure all of us would) love to see tended to.
Also I'm typically a positive person when it comes to games and even enjoy "bad" games (I love Too Human and I always will).
I used to be a positive person about bad games, then I bought Brink for full price on day 1. We can just say that since then I've been much more hesitant with purchases about games until I've tried them myself (Halo 4 was the only game recently that I haven't done that with and look how that turned out.)
Ordnance is still in, would like to say that they're less frequent, but that could just be a placebo triggered by my overriding joy of receiving some of the staple features Halo's known for. Suffice it to say, the ordnance didn't taint my enjoyment so significantly that I stopped playing.
It's a start, for sure.
Are people here enjoying the Forge playlist because the rest of Halo 4 is that bad? I remember a lot of folks here loathing Forge-centric playlists in Reach. Was the rest of Reach that good in comparison? Or is it more specifically that the Forge offering so far in Halo 4 is just better than the offering in Reach? Basically, what I'm asking is: what the hell is going on?
xxjuicesxx
Member
What are the Forge playlist settings:
Personal Ordnance?
Global Ordnance?
Weapons on Map?
Loadouts?
Customized Loadouts?
Respawn time?
Anything else I forgot? Scoring system back to 1-50 yet?
Personal Ordnance?
Global Ordnance?
Weapons on Map?
Loadouts?
Customized Loadouts?
Respawn time?
Anything else I forgot? Scoring system back to 1-50 yet?
I found with a bit of experimenting that respawn time (at least for me) was annoying to set. I could never find the option to take out the prompt to "respawn faster" so I just had to set the playlist respawn time to, say (If I recall correctly), 9 seconds, if I wanted a 5 second respawn. Of course this means everyone has to hit the respawn faster prompt, but I think it has to be dealt with because at 5 seconds, the "respawn faster" prompt respawns you in.. 2 seconds? But it has been quite some time since I've messed with the settings so take what I say with some salt.
Sr Kitsune
Member
A very useful video about the Forge Playlist (specially weapon drops) by THC(Clicked)
Next week is Griffball, somewhat excited to try it out in matchmaking, had fun with friends in customs.
(And the specs Engineer and Stalker will be unlocked for everyone, if I remember correctly Stalker is the one with the almost useless armor mod and Engineer is the one that help you against EMP... I think)
Instant respawn is still enabled. Scoring is still a convoluted mess. Personal ordnance is still present. Loadouts are pre-designed by 343, although the boltshot is still secondary on some of the classes. No global audience, instead there are static weapon spawns, ala Halo. And I think that's that.
Symmetrical maps with decent colour co-ordination for map movement helps a ton, too.
Yeah the static spawns are nice. I wish I had known that static spawns were being accepted before submitting Intercession to the CCs, because the map definitely plays better with them. Instead I created dummie random nodes to replace the initial ordnance after they had been snatched up. That being said, I'm fine with the random ordnance on it, but I definitely would like to have known that I could have normal ordnance.
Reagan's BR
Banned
I don't get why they don't work on it during normal business hours...it just seems strange.
COD switched from the 10point kills for the far superior 1 point system with BLOPS2. 343 will copy them in time for Halo 5.
I think you're being far too generous with this assessment. They made some incremental improvements, but calling them "big" isn't particularly accurate in my opinion. Certainly they don't change the trajectory of Spartan Ops population or Halo 4 online population in general. If the idea was that Season 1 was a taste to get people to purchase a Season 2 they have a long ways to go. If they were hoping to keep pumping out quick and easy Spartan Ops to keep people engaged until Halo 5 they need to step it up a hell of a lot more than the jump from 1 - 1.5.