The Real Napsta
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Gears MP is a borefest. IMO
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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
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Syphon Filter
Member
Gears is awesome. Takes the most skill of all shooters on consoles.
Zeouterlimits
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The Real Napsta
Member
With shotgun as a primary I fail to see how it could.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hey yall, I've been thinking. I want to avoid pretty much any and all campaign info, but I'd really like to nerd out with you all on whatever multiplayer reveals / footage we get from E3. How would you all feel about having a No Campaign Info But Tons of Multiplayer Info thread? Would that be possible? Desirable? Sexy
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I'm not sure how Spartan Ops will fit into the mix. Most of the SpOps missions will be before the events of Halo 4, so any reveal we get at E3 probably won't feature new enemies. So, I'd be okay with it being discussed in the side thread.
I guess the things I mostly want to avoid are:
- Campaign plot info.
- New enemies.
- New enemy weapons. (Might be hard, assuming they'll be seen in the MP demos.)
- New vehicles. (Again, these might be seen in MP).
I'm really excited about the new directions Halo 4 will be going in fiction wise, and I want to avoid any info that'll diminish the mysterious, unknown element of the new enemies. That's pretty much my biggest concern.
If yall don't think this'll work, that's fine. I'll just try my best to stay out of the Halo threads.
(included that one for Elzar)
I'm not sure how Spartan Ops will fit into the mix. Most of the SpOps missions will be before the events of Halo 4, so any reveal we get at E3 probably won't feature new enemies. So, I'd be okay with it being discussed in the side thread.
I guess the things I mostly want to avoid are:
- Campaign plot info.
- New enemies.
- New enemy weapons. (Might be hard, assuming they'll be seen in the MP demos.)
- New vehicles. (Again, these might be seen in MP).
I'm really excited about the new directions Halo 4 will be going in fiction wise, and I want to avoid any info that'll diminish the mysterious, unknown element of the new enemies. That's pretty much my biggest concern.
If yall don't think this'll work, that's fine. I'll just try my best to stay out of the Halo threads.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I would have to doubt you've played it then.
Typically HaloGAF threads are pretty good with spoilers. I think you would be fine here in the community thread.
biosnake20
Member
Gears 1 was fantastic.
Gears 2 was awful.
Gears 3 was a return to form but it was too late.
The Real Napsta
Member
I've played it. Don't act like 99% of the fights aren't shotgun battles.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
That isn't what I was referencing (which should have been obvious given the post I quoted), and in my experience especially with 3 rifles play a HUGE part.
Syphon Filter
Member
People got used to using the shotgun in gears 1 but its not as powerful anymore in gears 3. btw gears 2 is awesome.
Genesis Knight
Member
What you said was that Gears didn't take skill, which is a dumb comment and makes it sound like you haven't played. I would agree that being good - hell, even being competitive - in Gears takes more skill than any other popular console shooter. The learning curve is more of a cliff face than a curve. Probably a big reason why it doesn't have the population of BF3/COD/Halo.
biosnake20
Member
It's true that most battles are shotgun battles but I fail to see how that means it takes less skill.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
This is exactly right IMO.
I believe this is also a reason the Halo popularity isn't as high either. People want to get on and "own" shit right away and be rewarded. If you aren't "good" you don't get that with Halo or Gears.
You simply get your face smashed into the ground.
squidhands
Member
I'm in the same camp. I'm all about multiplayer and the details of SpOps, but the parts that relate directly to the campaign (story, enemies, etc) I'd like to stay away from. I'll be reading the thread with my good eye closed.
The Real Napsta
Member
I never said it didn't take skill, i said it didn't take the most skill.
Already been covered.
i wish. i remember going years back during the EPIC not-to-be halo 2 unveiling and staying around in the evening for the "fan fest" thing. sadly, it started considerably later than listed and a buddy i went with was hanging out without a pass waiting for me, so i didnt stick around much other than to pop in and get shwag and say hello. funny, the thing that sticks out most in my mind was having jaime griesemer have to yell at some of the people in line for getting unruly.
Garrett 2U
Member
That's what you would think until you try it.
Shotgun is the BR of Gears MP. Takes the most skill to use that gun. Clearly you never played good players/weren't good with it yourself. Find a gears montage.
Outside of the sniper or something, of course.
For those that aren't comfortable with reading campaign spoilers, instead of making a new thread, we could just spoiler tag anything campaign related if you want. I'm fine with a new thread too, doesn't really matter to me as long as everyone is happy with it.
I'm probably doing it wrong, but only gun I use in that game is the Retro Lancer. That thing destroys everything. I rarely even see other people using it, wtf. Pace your shots, and it kills in half the time that it takes the regular Lancer.
Zeouterlimits
Member
From the E3 GIF thread, a humorous reminder to keep (non-Halo 4) expectations in check.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Lol, Napsta is that guy who sucks at a game and therefore says it "sucks" or is "boring" or a "shotgun fest" or eludes at the lack of skill it takes for exactly that reason.
We are usually good about that stuff, as "sensitive" stuff gets out most of these threads are covered in more black ink than Noble 6's file.
It's made for people who can't get kills with the shotgun, same with the sawed off. Most people don't want to use it because it's a crutch.
We are usually good about that stuff, as "sensitive" stuff gets out most of these threads are covered in more black ink than Noble 6's file.
It's made for people who can't get kills with the shotgun, same with the sawed off. Most people don't want to use it because it's a crutch.
Syphon Filter
Member
From the E3 GIF thread, a humorous reminder to keep (non-Halo 4) expectations in check.
lmao never seen that. i miss j allard.
The Real Napsta
Member
You mad ^
Gabotron ES
Member
They can go play Living Dead lol
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
No, however, you are quite clearly. It's cool though, not everyone can be good at it.
And they do!
Haha, dang now I feel like a scrub.
And yeah, I suck hard with the shotgun. Although I definitely appreciate the stuff people can do with it, especially with all the acrobatics.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Too much effort for those who simply want to spam their shotgun
The Real Napsta
Member
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Eh, it is what it is. If it wasn't there people like you would have less of a fun time. People who played the shit out of it like me learned to cope, but it still gets us sometimes.
You're really not good at trolling, just like you're not good at Gears.
Not sure if trolling or not, but in your case its true. You don't seem to have a grasp on high level Gears and the shotgun.
Zeouterlimits
Member
(And the opposite is probably true. People who are good at it and don't care for it.)
Genesis Knight
Member
Don't feel bad. Gears 3 made the rifles relevant again and the Retro is as good a choice as any.
For me, that damn Gears sniper is THE most difficult console shooter weapon to use correctly.
Psychoward
Banned
I uh, what?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I intended to play it, but it was just too crazy looking for me. Plus Ghost Recon.
The discussion is more based on the "skill" required.
Edit: Also, if this is him, he doesn't even have Gears 3, and never played it. http://live.xbox.com/en-US/Activity?compareTo=The Real Napsta
Damn, Germany must be in a time delay.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
GTTV E3 Pre-Show tonight. New Star Wars game, Tomb Raider footage. Silly Metal Gear Ninja game. New game reveals.
E3 Hype levels approaching silly levels.
E3 Hype levels approaching silly levels.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Evidently late. I blame the Waypoint twitter. >_>
Also, Ireland dawg.
Totally forgot Monday is a bank holiday. Awesome! Can't wait to watch the conference on Live in the sexy exclusive party.
Also, Ireland dawg.
Konami conference at 8am tomorrow too!
Totally forgot Monday is a bank holiday. Awesome! Can't wait to watch the conference on Live in the sexy exclusive party.
I agree with that. At least with the visual bloom Gears shows, I now know that you have to stand still to be accurate with it. But something about the hit detection on the thing feels weird to me. I'm more of a torque bow guy.
Fair enough. All I know is I feel Gears has perfect control. Feels very fluid and you feel incredibly free despite being more or less grounded and restricted by the walls.
I used to feel like you when I started playing. Compared to Halo, I felt like I was always stuck and restricted. Then I got better at it, understood the movement and wallbouncing, and it was amazing.
Hypertrooper
Member
late to the party dude.
Pressing A to sprint only makes things worse. Hate that so much.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Wat? This whole time I thought you were German. LOL
You and me BTTE playlist shoguns only, final destination.
Syphon Filter
Member
Holding A is good, what is so bad about it?
I'd rather play AR starts on Hemorrhage with the Scorpion still on the map.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Aww.
Story is shit, and I agree, I don't play anymore because I'm bored, and I have a lot of friends who still play. I'll probably go back and play in a bit. But right now it's Halo and Ghost Recon.
The radar gets expanded to like 200m even though this isn't reflected in the HUD.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Nah, Hyper is the sexy German.