squidhands
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That's pretty sexy, although Camo is absolutely worthless in Firefight. Where the hell is hologram, that would be a lot more worthwhile. I'd probably never deviate from a package like that.GhaleonEB said:
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Halo: Reach |OT4| This Thread is Not Your Grave, But You Are Welcome In It
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They probably figured Sprint/DMR would be a far too common choice. By that it looks like they wanted to change that.
Also, TO listing is changed on Bungie.net. As far as I can tell:
- Hemorrhage gone
- Stockpile gone
- Armor Lock, Drop Shield gone
- Team Headhunter still available :|
- Hot Potato is still available :|
Also, TO listing is changed on Bungie.net. As far as I can tell:
- Hemorrhage gone
- Stockpile gone
- Armor Lock, Drop Shield gone
- Team Headhunter still available :|
- Hot Potato is still available :|
As I said, I think this is a good thing in regards to terrain, because cost for traversal engenders interesting choices and sacrifices for players. There were very few of those in 2 and 3, because the barriers were only effectual going one way. Terrain that isn't free serves not only to constrain, but also to introduce another layer of decisions regarding equipment and movement for the player. You don't get nearly as much of that when terrain is a bumpy diving board with little consequence for poor traversal.Dax01 said:
Hmm? The tweak was to get it to mesh more nicely with fall damage, not the jetpack (which would work with it, fall damage or no). And really, what you talk about as trouble took all of two minutes to think about. There'd be no shortage of good solutions in the pot if the issue seriously came up.
Steelyuhas
Member
Striker said:
What? Why would you take out Stockpile instead of Headhunter or Hot Potato? Thank the lord that Hemorrhage is done though.
Neutral flag has some issues with it. The Flag UI doesn't appear in the gametype and the announcer calls "Flag Stolen" whenever the flag is picked up, for both teams, so you don't if the other team picked it up or if yours did.
I haven't gone in there, yet, so I was just speculating based on the listing from the site.Steelyuhas said:
Stockpile I don't despise as much as Headhunter, but it should only be on symmetrical maps. We always saw it on Swordbase, Boardwalk, and Powerhouse. It would be more suitable on more balanced terrain like Countdown, Anchor 9, Zealot, and Asylum.
Shake Appeal
Member
Whatwhatwhat is this.Hey You said:
Flag playlist?
I am playing Halo this week??
squidhands
Member
DAMN MY EYESGhaleonEB said:Hologram is the last one listed.
And yeah, camo is worthless. The attacking squad always knows you are there per Firefight AI, camo or no camo.
too late
Wh..why? I don't...Striker said:
A) Headhunter and Hot Potato are crap. "Less fringe gametypes" my ass.
B) Don't remove Hemo unless you replace it with a large TO map that's as good. Its not a popular opinion, but some of the best Objective experiences I've had with Reach has been Multiflag on Hemo with a team that is communicating properly and where everything falls into place. There is now zero vehicle use in Objective, which is a travesty.
What a joke. As with the Big Team update, for every smart decision made there is a stupid one counteracting it.
Steelyuhas
Member
Havok said:
I HATE Hemo in TO. Glad it's gone.
Yeah some of these Objective decisions are puzzling. I'll have to head in there and actually check it out myself though.
Enclosed sucks, why do people vote for it everytime.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Dani said:
HBO said:
SMH
I just dont understand the reasoning that goes behind that logic. Saying that Defenders could just ping him across the map makes me think he ran the flag back in the open field and got frustrated with the fact he was dieing. A flag carrier should be good enough to not only get the flag, but also be good enough to get it back to base and cap it whether that involves stealth/ good teamwork/ good use of cover/ the ability to actually defend yourself, most likely a mix of all. I havent played against good players who I could ping across the map with my BR simply because they made good use of the geometry. His teammates should have punished the defenders for being in bad positions and making bad decisions.
The problem with Flagstraveganza is that there are DMR and NR pick ups on the map, so that potentially gives the team who wipes the other team out early an advantage where they can also keep nicking the superior weapons. With just a Pistol to defend yourself your going to get spawn destroyed.
The Librarian
Banned
I just think the jetpack as a tool to traverse areas isn't different enough for me to warrant its existence, and I fundamentally disagree on fall damage. All you're doing is slowing the player down.Botolf said:
It wasn't perfect, that's for sure, but I don't think the problems were anything that couldn't have been addressed using the tools they have at their disposal. Coagulation in Halo 2 worked beautifully in Team Skirmish (4v4), and the problem is that Hemorrhage is a terrible remake. Important details were wrong, such as the rocks at the tele exit, and the location of the exits for that matter. They said it was a direct geometry rip from Halo 2, but this isn't accurate. It's not possible to make the superior Coagulation bases, which would massively improve the shotgun camping that exists now. My stance is that if a map that is currently busted can be fixed with some simple changes, then do that instead of removing it. Regardless, it filled a much-needed void in the playlist - vehicle-based objective games.Steelyuhas said:
Edit: You know, I said last week that I'd have liked to see greater detail on what exactly the Objective changes were going to be in the update. If we had gotten the full list instead of a vague statement about fringe gametypes, the outcry might have stopped this shit before it happened.
ncsuDuncan said:
The stuff dreams are made of...
I honestly thought there would be a new FW in every map pack. I know we got most of the Forge World objects on Tempest but the budget was lacking. Missed opportunity.
I jumped on Reach for the first time in months tonight to have a fiddle with my wacky "Splash Damage" KOTH gametype/map in Forge. To get reaquainted I tried some Firefight Arcade with randoms...
I've since lost three hours and made no progress on the gametype, but I've finally been promoted to Colonel!
Steelyuhas
Member
Havok said:
But without those changes, the map is awful, especially for 4v4, and it is always AR starts.
I just played A9 in TO. I'm not sure how, but it was crazy. I think I might need to lie down for a bit.
Horrific connection though, I felt like I was playing Halo 3.
Also, with today's playlists and AR starts in 6v6, I really hope that Halo 4 has a single starting weapon. This smg AR/BR DMR stuff is awful. Give us a single heatshot, single shot weapon to start with. Pistol.
Hypertrooper
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McFarlane announced at the New York Toy Fair, that they will release a special set of action figures, because of the anniversary. You can pre-order them here. McFarlane will even release an "Evolution of the Master Chief" set.Demoncarnotaur said:So about Halo CEA masterchief. Or rather his helmet. I hope it looks more like this in its final revison-
I hope not. Like I said, I love remakes, but I really want some fresh maps, that look and play new. I hope they may have one map-pack between now and then, or a forgeworld 2.0. Actually I want both. It stinks, because forgeworlds have a ton of potential, and they seem underused. A variety of forge environments would be awesome, as well as maps with different weather or time of day. Alas. Maybe Halo 4.
The Librarian
Banned
Botolf said:
OK update: Headhunter no longer appears in the listHavok said:
Hot Potato still does.
As for Hemorrhage, I'm in the camp they should have kept it in. At least for sake of self-defense, allow us have a DMR or Needle Rifle start. Let's ignore they had 2-flag and Neutral Bomb in Coagulation, let's ignore they did the same scenario in Halo 3 with Valhalla. But with the complaints of getting sniped while spawning with an AR, it gets removed instead of re-adjusted with a proper starting weapon on such a large map.
One map is now using vehicles (Tempest) in TO. A huge far cry from Burial Mounds, Zanzibar, Turf, Terminal, Relic, and Coagulation. smh
Oh, and I found some of the Halo 2 Team Skirmish map-gametype listings. Does not include it all (no DLC maps showing), but it makes you want to cry seeing all the awesome combinations we had compared to our TO offerings in Halo 3 and Reach.
Steelyuhas
Member
Why is there Highlands slayer in the Premium Slayer playlist?
Change list: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=61355554
I was hoping the fix to Fiesta Attack in Score Attack made it (to align with Arcade settings), alas. Hoping it was an oversight on the list and not the update itself.
Firefight Doubles, my new home, here I come.
I was hoping the fix to Fiesta Attack in Score Attack made it (to align with Arcade settings), alas. Hoping it was an oversight on the list and not the update itself.
Firefight Doubles, my new home, here I come.
The Henery
Member
Ok, objective ar starts is a disgrace but at least tell me that premium slayer is dmr start? Specifically in reference to Highlands? The map was insipid with ar starts and rarely reached the requisite 75 kills.
Also, i'd say the chances of seeing the CE weapon set in those new maps is nil. One of the three pillars of Frankie's arguments against remaking the multiplayer for the anniversary edition was that the pistol was a three shot super weapon; why would he then allow that in Reach?
^ @Tunavi
Fucking sweet, always thought the map played better with the snipe.
Also, i'd say the chances of seeing the CE weapon set in those new maps is nil. One of the three pillars of Frankie's arguments against remaking the multiplayer for the anniversary edition was that the pistol was a three shot super weapon; why would he then allow that in Reach?
^ @Tunavi
Fucking sweet, always thought the map played better with the snipe.
All this Halo CE talk has got me thinking about the days of the pistol...
What if there was a power weapon rifle that functioned as so: a three shot kill.
There would only be one or two lying around the map sort of like how the snipers are depending on map size etc.
Would it add depth to the gunplay? At the very least it would be interesting to see how the game would play out with a weapon like that.
I'm not even specifying which Halo it would have worked in, but I thought it was an interesting thing to talk about with all this Halo CE multiplayer talk going on.
This was the first time you placed in arena?
What if there was a power weapon rifle that functioned as so: a three shot kill.
There would only be one or two lying around the map sort of like how the snipers are depending on map size etc.
Would it add depth to the gunplay? At the very least it would be interesting to see how the game would play out with a weapon like that.
I'm not even specifying which Halo it would have worked in, but I thought it was an interesting thing to talk about with all this Halo CE multiplayer talk going on.
Welcome to the club, bro!Thermite said:
This was the first time you placed in arena?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
The Team Slayer playlist is in desperate need of maps with vehicles. Maybe the Halo Anniversary map pack will finally provide the goods... in five months. :-/
Trasher said:
Thanks, brah.
Nah, this isn't the first time I've been placed in arena. I was placed in gold for season 1 and season 7 (the only two seasons I really put in enough games to get a placement). FINALLY MADE IT TO THE TOP, BB!
Edit: The community maps in arena that I've played on have been surprisingly good. The new addition "Select" seemed to play particularly well.
LunaticPuma
dresses business casual
So how do I get the stockpile achievement now?
achievements mean nothing broLunaticPuma said:
edit: thats one of the things that annoy me about this CE anniversary thing. "It's halo 1 with achievements!" That does nothing for me. Achievements are lame as hell and they are the reason why we don't get free map packs after a while anymore.
The Henery
Member
Trasher said:
I always thought that they should include a 3 shot rifle or pistol in forge, for custom games only (or a designated playlist). Shit like the sentinel beam has been in customs but not mm so I don't see why it would be an issue.
Or, you know, they could add individual weapon damage modifiers to solve the whole problem of the 'what ifs'?
Hydranockz
Member
So wait, ye guys are saying now that the CE pistol was not OP but instead was a weapon so steep in it's learning curve that it was incredibly difficult to use/master? Never change Gaf.
I feel sorry for Frankie for clearly misinterpreting what was such a clear view all these years...
I feel sorry for Frankie for clearly misinterpreting what was such a clear view all these years...
Hydranockz
Member
There was quite a few tbh. Using my mobile doesn't help either.Trasher said:
Steelyuhas
Member
Tunavi said:
5v5 AR's on Highlands is awesome.
Going 5 minutes without seeing other players is really fun.
Tunavi said:
I'm thinking of CEA as "The instantly best 6 maps in Reach by a country mile pack".
Hydranockz said:
It wasn't that hard to use but it certainly had a skill gap with it that no other Halo starting weapon even comes close to. That is just one thing that makes it great. It's not OP because in the weapon sandbox and gameplay mechanics of Halo CE, its not OP. Fits in perfectly.
Hydranockz
Member
You say what Annual did to Halo 3. What say you now?Tunavi said:
The Librarian
Banned
The music at the end of the Sparkcast is awesome. Especially the monks.
Achievements aren't necessarily bad. I'll use the ODST firefight achievements as an excuse to get people to play firefight with me. I'm always down to get Endure. It's just annoying when people in the pregame lobby say, "Vote for stockpile! I need the achievement!" Yeah, well stockpile sucks and I don't care about your achievements. And I know that they wouldn't play stockpile otherwise. And yeah, DLC with achievements will never be free. So there goes the whole concept of DLC being free after a while.Hydranockz said:
edit: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH