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[kylej]

These videos really need more areas made out of grey blocks to truly capture the authentic Halo video game experience.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Isn't cryogenic stasis supposed to be... cold?

...

Dear God.

They might as well name the first mission The Package.

 

[Plywood]

They're going to take the purple out of Reach. No purple.

Good, fuck purple.

 

[Trasher]

Man, will someone please tell these people their wasting their time and embarrassing themselves in the process? lol wow

Well, to be fair, the kid that made that is 12 lol.

 

[The Librarian]

They might as well name the first mission The Package.

:lol

 

[Tawpgun]

<3 playing with you guys.

Feels good. It extends further back too.

 

[Sibylus]

They might as well name the first mission The Package.

*clap*

I think we now know why the codpiece is missing, and how he was able to get out of the cryo pod.

 

[Tunavi]

Man, will someone please tell these people their wasting their time and embarrassing themselves in the process? lol wow

I thought it was the official trailer for Faith at first. Oh man I was disappointed for a second.

Good games squad. Om nom nom I love the premium playlists.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

<3 playing with you guys.

Feels good. It extends further back too.

Was saying that earlier I think I got 45ish. I actually stopped playing with randoms, I swear me overdozez and someone sat in lobby for 15 minutes before we found another reliable gaffer to get with.

 

[Ken]

Premium playlists seem to give more credits for game complete than other playlists.

 

[Tunavi]

Premium playlists seem to give more credits for game complete than other playlists.

Fuck the poor

 

[Crucio]

What playlists is Sword Base still in? I feel like every new playlist they come out with magically lacks Sword Base. Not that the sniper can save that map, but I'm a little curious to play it with the sniper and the new location of the GL.

Its very popular in Multi-Team. The GL being on the second floor I believe will help remove Yellow lift campers.

Premium playlists seem to give more credits for game complete than other playlists.

The DLC playlists are always hyped up with extra credits to encourage purchase!

Ya'll might enjoy this. Halo 4 Reaction video

 

[xxjuicesxx]

The DLC playlists are always hyped up with extra credits to encourage purchase!

Who the hell would purchase maps based on credits lol!?

 

[Tawpgun]

Was saying that earlier I think I got 45ish. I actually stopped playing with randoms, I swear me overdozez and someone sat in lobby for 15 minutes before we found another reliable gaffer to get with.

I'm definitely going to start to do this.

Might need to add some more of you.

 

[feel]

I got an iPhone 4 yesterday

http://www.secondapps.com/neogaf/
must have webapp for any gaffer

 

[Tunavi]

Who the hell would purchase maps based on credits lol!?

aren't you buying Halo CE anniversary for the achievements???

Oh and I got the weekly today. I love playing with a full party

 

[xxjuicesxx]

aren't you buying Halo CE anniversary for the achievements???

Oh and I got the weekly today. I love playing with a full party

Probably but only cause I've never played through all of CE.

 

[Stinkles]

"We don't want to fragment the Reach MP userbase" Fuck that- If they knew people would play it- why do they give a fuck if it divides the fanbase- people are still playing Halo. I think they didn't put Halo CE MP in because it would be fucking hard, time consuming/conflicting with deadlines and would fuck the game up. I kinda wish Franky just said- "It would fuck our game up"- they don't have to give us any other reason besides that. When they say it would fragment the Halo MP userbase it just sounds like Big Business bullshit (which Halo is, but fuck I don't wanna actually think about that) I really hope when talking to the press in the future, in context to why CE MP was left out- they just simply say it would screw the game up that you remember and love- thats all. [/rant]

If there was one simple answer, we'd give it, and stick to it, but the truth is there are a few big reasons and dozens of tiny ones. Making games is complicated. It's better to be honest about the choices than hiding behind some fake PR. We knew this would cause outrage and it wasn't an easy decision, but believe me, it was necessary given the time constraints involved.

As for big business - this project was conceived in its entirety, within 343. It was not handed down from some corporate cloud.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I knew that if CEA existed, then there would be no multiplayer. I explained the reasons why at length and thought it would be obvious too so I was honestly shocked that people were disappointed by the lack of it's inclusion.

-_- My thinking was that there would be no point in remaking Halo:CE without the matchmaking. The matchmaking is what people have wanted on xbox-live for the last 7-8 years, not some campaign that we can play right now and appreciate without any graphical overhaul. They shouldn't have even ventured into Halo:CE territory if matchmaking was not an option. So dumb. Let me say that again: SO DUMB! So mind-blowingly dumb... (this is not directed at Dani)

Remaking the campaign with Reach graphics and tweaks was a lot of work, I'm sure. I mean seriously, that couldn't have been easy? Why didn't they do the matchmaking instead of the campaign? The applause would have shaken the heavens and then they could have avoided the outrage. The number of people upset by the exclusion of the campaign would have flip flopped with how many people are happy about the campaign-only remake.

How was this not obvious to anyone thinking about redoing Halo:CE? So in my mind, either the remake was happening and we were getting matchmaking, or we weren't getting anything at all and the whole thing was a farce. The fragmented player population excuse, like Lazslo already mentioned, is such a poor excuse.

I've been further surprised by just how important CE's multiplayer seems to be to some folks. The fact that people won't even buy CEA because of the lack of CE multiplayer in spite of every it does have, and reduced RRP, is just mind blowing.

CE Multiplayer inclusion would have been sweet but still, the reaction is just fierce in some areas.

It should have been a given, knowing how passionate some people are about the original Halo:CE multiplayer part of the game. I'm still blown away by the fact that 343i had the balls to redo what nobody asked for and exclude what everyone wanted. They have balls of steel, lol.

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If there was one simple answer, we'd give it, and stick to it, but the truth is there are a few big reasons and dozens of tiny ones. Making games is complicated. It's better to be honest about the choices than hiding behind some fake PR. We knew this would cause outrage and it wasn't an easy decision, but believe me, it was necessary given the time constraints involved.

As for big business - this project was conceived in its entirety, within 343. It was not handed down from some corporate cloud.

Haha right after I post, of course lol. I appreciate the explanation. If time constraints were a problem then there isn't much you guys can do. Although for Halo:CE matchmaking on xbox-live I could wait years if I knew that it was really going to happen.

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I still think doing campaign over matchmaking was a horrible idea.

 

[erpg]

Nobody wanted what I didn't want, everybody wanted what I want, my statistics, and the argument, in point form.

 

[Tunavi]

If there was one simple answer, we'd give it, and stick to it, but the truth is there are a few big reasons and dozens of tiny ones. Making games is complicated. It's better to be honest about the choices than hiding behind some fake PR. We knew this would cause outrage and it wasn't an easy decision, but believe me, it was necessary given the time constraints involved.

As for big business - this project was conceived in its entirety, within 343. It was not handed down from some corporate cloud.

We just want great balanced maps and classic Halo gameplay. No armor abilities, bloom, equipment or other gimmicks.

That's why we are so bummed about no Halo 1 or Halo 2 online multiplayer. Don't let us down with Halo 4.

 

[Tashi]

We just want great balanced maps and classic Halo gameplay. No armor abilities, bloom, equipment or other gimmicks. Don't let us down with Halo 4.

Speak for yourself bro. I love Reach.

 

[erpg]

Yeah, the armor abilities would be completely fine if things like armor lock were clutch abilities, and opposed to a crutch ability. There shouldn't be any reward or satisfaction for removing yourself from the game for 6 seconds. And it's a stupid lengthy guessing game for your instantly disadvantaged opponent.

Really poorly thought out skill.

 

[Karl2177]

Speak for yourself bro. I love Reach.

I love my gametypes for Reach. Too bad, they aren't in MM...

 

[Crucio]

Who the hell would purchase maps based on credits lol!?

Well, then lets say the extra credits are a reward for those who purchased it. Heh.

 

[Tunavi]

Speak for yourself bro. I love Reach.

You don't play vanilla reach.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Nobody wanted what I didn't want, everybody wanted what I want, my statistics, and the argument, in point form.

Yeah, I'm sure that you've been waiting the last 10 years for a remake of Halo:CE's campaign. Give me a break. If you've been a fan of halo since Combat Evolved and haven't been in a bomb shelter this whole time, you should have some idea of the number of people who have been or at least had been pleading for Combat Evolved's multiplayer to be put on xbox-live. Maybe I generalize things too much, but only a minority (and that's probably being way too generous) can say they've been wanting and waiting for a campaign remake.

I'm not talking about people who are okay with everything after the fact. I'm talking about before we even knew what was going on.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Yeah, the armor abilities would be completely fine if things like armor lock were not in the game

Really poorly thought out skill.

Fixed.

Seriously though, over the course of development, Bungie failed to be able to step back and look at armor lock objectively, as a whole, and see it's impacts on gameplay. Not really ripping them, things like this happen in game development all the time, especially over games with long dev cycles.

 

[Tashi]

You don't play vanilla reach.

For the first time in Halo for me.

 

[Hitmonchan107]

We just want great balanced maps and classic Halo gameplay. No armor abilities, bloom, equipment or other gimmicks.

That's why we are so bummed about no Halo 1 or Halo 2 online multiplayer. Don't let us down with Halo 4.

And honestly, that's my hope for 343's classic update. Even if it doesn't remove bloom, please find a way to give us that classic feel for Reach.

And if 343 can't do it, please let us know why. I would love a clear explanation. I'm so ignorant when it comes to game making that I have no idea what is reasonably possible.

 

[Tunavi]

For the first time in Halo for me.

And would you love to tell me why?

 

[Tawpgun]

And honestly, that's my hope for 343's classic update. Even if it doesn't remove bloom, please find a way to give us that classic feel for Reach.

And if 343 can't do it, please let us know why. I would love a clear explanation. I'm so ignorant when it comes to game making that I have no idea what is reasonably possible.

I agree here. I hope 343 is more transparent with their decisions.

If something is impossible TELL us its impossible and why.

 

[Tashi]

And would you love to tell me why?

Because armor abilities, if implemented correctly, are a damn fine addition to Halo.

 

[Hitmonchan107]

If anyone would like to play Reach with my friend and me, send me a message.

 

[Slightly Live]

I agree here. I hope 343 is more transparent with their decisions.

If something is impossible TELL us its impossible and why.

Transparency is fine up to a point. Bungie did a job job for the most part when explaining their decisions with Halo but it's a fine line between being open and explaining issues to fans and fans demanding and expecting answers every single a decision is made that they disagree with (and for every choice made someone will always disagree with it).

The one thing I would like to see in future with Halo's multiplayer (whether it be Reach or future games) is slightly more openness regarding updates to matchmaking as this has a significant and ongoing impact on a massive group of players. Often we see many changes but very little explanation surrounding them. Usually these changes are made in reaction to obvious issues players have but it would be beneficial to explain some of these changes to folks. Shishka and NinjaOnFire have both laid a great framework and I'd see that expanded in future.

 

[feel]

And would you love to tell me why?

Only plays MLG and gets host 95% of the time.

 

[Tashi]

Only plays MLG and gets host 95% of the time.

Lol

I've actually been pulling host less lately. I don't know why. :/

 

[Lazslo]

If there was one simple answer, we'd give it, and stick to it, but the truth is there are a few big reasons and dozens of tiny ones. Making games is complicated. It's better to be honest about the choices than hiding behind some fake PR. We knew this would cause outrage and it wasn't an easy decision, but believe me, it was necessary given the time constraints involved.

As for big business - this project was conceived in its entirety, within 343. It was not handed down from some corporate cloud.

For the record- I'm not hating on 343's decisions- Shit, I would sadly follow whatever you guys do blindly. I think ever since E3 2008-I'm just a crazy cynic when it comes to Microsoft and Halo. Thanks for the honestly though. I couldn't imagine being the one to tell crazy Halo fans that they are remaking Halo 1, but forgetting to add MP- Shit I thought my job was stressful. Your the hero we needed you to be.

<3 playing with you guys.

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Feels good. It extends further back too.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=642031936&player=LaszIo"]You are very very welcome homes. [/URL] My shoulders still hurt from carrying our team.

 

[Stinkles]

I agree here. I hope 343 is more transparent with their decisions.

If something is impossible TELL us its impossible and why.

Nothing is impossible. Lots of things are impractical.

 

[Plywood]

Nothing like a laggy game to end a nice win streak. :|

 

[GhaleonEB]

Nothing is impossible. Lots of things are impractical.

And to be fair, you've told us many of the reasons why. You know my take on the package revealed so far, but 343 has been very up front with the reasoning for why it was crafted the way it was.

....

One of my most memorable Halo 3 moments was a one-bomb game on Last Resort where we went up 2-0, and the other team quit en mass, except for two players. And everyone on our team - randoms, the lot - decided to let them score. The other two guys came in with the bomb through the sea wall, and we ran at them in a pack...but no one shot. They got the idea right away, and we all escorted them together to the bomb plant zone, and huddled up around the bomb as it blew.

It was a hilarious, wonderful display of good sportsmanship.

I was bummed GAF wasn't capable of such tonight. :\

 

[Hitmonchan107]

And to be fair, you've told us many of the reasons why. You know my take on the package revealed so far, but 343 has been very up front with the reasoning for why it was crafted the way it was.

....

One of my most memorable Halo 3 moments was a one-bomb game on Last Resort where we went up 2-0, and the other team quit en mass, except for two players. And everyone on our team - randoms, the lot - decided to let them score. The other two guys came in with the bomb through the sea wall, and we ran at them in a pack...but no one shot. They got the idea right away, and we all escorted them together to the bomb plant zone, and huddled up around the bomb as it blew.

It was a hilarious, wonderful display of good sportsmanship.

I was bummed GAF wasn't capable of such tonight. :\

I'm not going to name names, but that was entirely Dani's fault. ;^p

Hahahah. Sorry I shot you.

Transparency is fine up to a point. Bungie did a job job for the most part when explaining their decisions with Halo but it's a fine line between being open and explaining issues to fans and fans demanding and expecting answers every single a decision is made that they disagree with (and for every choice made someone will always disagree with it).

Hopefully my post from earlier didn't sound like I was demanding an answer. I'm just naturally curious, and I'd like to know why certain things are too impractical to happen.

 

[Slightly Live]

I was distracted by talking with someone IRL and wasn't paying attention. =/

 

[Bread]

I was distracted by talking with someone IRL and wasn't paying attention. =/

You son of a bitch.

 

[Tunavi]

At least we tried

 

[Deputy Moonman]

For the record- I'm not hating on 343's decisions- Shit, I would sadly follow whatever you guys do blindly. I think ever since E3 2008-I'm just a crazy cynic when it comes to Microsoft and Halo. Thanks for the honestly though. I couldn't imagine being the one to tell crazy Halo fans that they are remaking Halo 1, but forgetting to add MP- Shit I thought my job was stressful. Your the hero we needed you to be.

I don't think anyone will mistake you for me, lol. And yes, they do have to put up with a lot of crazy people

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OLLO!

. I understand that 343i is simply trying to put together the next awesome chapter in Halo. But that should also mean that all opinions are important, even the bad. While I appreciate what they do, I'm still going to dish out the unruly opinions, if it will contribute, (even minutely), to a better game in the end. I've already accepted that I'm probably Gaf's worst and dumbest poster in a lot of people's eyes. That's my allotment in this thread and I'm cool with that as long as the next Halo is good. Everyone else is really good about not stepping on people's toes and not offending people, but I just lack the tact. Still, I doubt anyone at 343i is laying awake in bed tonight crying over anything I've said

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except Frankie, lol

.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Heh. Found the gallery I saved from the escort lap, as I called it. This was fun, we should totally do it some time.

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Dani

I felt warm and fuzzy all the rest of the night.

 

[The Real Napsta]

No pic of everyone exploding from the bomb?

 

[Slightly Live]

I really miss the crisp, defined look the multiplayer models had in Halo 3. Really makes the Reach models look over-designed in contrast.

 

[Plasmid]

Do we have any bungie staff ever post on here (i'm oblivious).