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Halo Reach Review Thread
- Thread starter DancingJesus
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Gareth Bale
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GillianSeed79 said:
Look, this isn't meant as an insult, but my 10 year old brother isn't going to understand what's so amazing about The Godfather. He just wouldn't be able to appreciate the parts that most people would. There are obviously parts of games that you have never learned to appreciate, most likely AI from the MW2 part (possibly also music, vehicles, and any hint of a sandbox).
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
BrLvgThrChmstry said:
What did HaloGaf ever do to you? :lol
I'm pretty sure calling Pokemon deeper than Halo is trolling. You're not taking into account that generally games with a leveling system don't require skill, they require time investment. However, Halo, even if it is thumb twiddling, requires some sort of coordination to be "good" along with some sort of understanding of physics and map design to be "interesting."BrLvgThrChmstry said:
Gram Negative Cocci
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BrLvgThrChmstry said:
I hope that's a copied and pasted post from you from the official Killzone 2 thread and you just swapped out Killzone for Halo because the same fucking thing applies there if not more so. Go take a look.
Buckethead
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Cheese and rice...that GameTrailers intro was horrible.
Going a little heavy on the puns you hacky fucks?
Going a little heavy on the puns you hacky fucks?
The Librarian
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This is why I love review threads.Redbeard said:
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Jexhius said:
I will admit, maybe I could of taken a more settle approach. And I apologise for any derailing.
Broman1978 said:Any reviews that highlight the music or something?
Always been a fan of Martys work
Not that I've seen but you might enjoy this:
How Halo: Reach Perfected Video Game Audio
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tec...each-perfected-video-game-audio?click=pm_news
beaten by Ghaleon!
yankeehater
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bhlaab said:
Hows the firefight mode in Pokemon?
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Dax01 said:
Because you read opinions based on more than one point of view.?
RedRedSuit
Member
bhlaab said:
:lol
Okay, I have to give it to you: this is a very nice summary of the problems with reviews of super-hyped titles like this one.
My guess is Halo: Reach is fantastic. However, the above criticism is spot on in general. You just can hardly count on reviews to convey whether it really is fantastic or merely competent but has enough psychologic "clout" to get the special review treatment. Happened to Halo 2, happened to Halo 3, happened to MW2, happened to GTA IV (Oscar-worthy!), happened to ODST (a 9 on graphics? really, IGN?), happened to MGS4 (a perfect 10 on sound? rly?), happened to SSBB, etc. etc.
That said, pretty often these AAA titles really are as good as the reviews say... and I have a feeling this could be one of those times.
KidA Seven
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Tashi0106 said:
:lol
BrLvgThrChmstry said:
I think maybe the best approach you could have taken is using the reviews posted up, and finding counter arguments to what they stated.
Jumping into any thread of a major flagship title and semi bashing it in anyway generally ends poorly on many levels. Call it fanboysim or whatever, but it's the same as telling someone their taste in music sucks.
I DO think all the Halo games have been over rated for MY tastes. Hell games I like more than Halo(CoD series, Gears series) I still think get over rated to a huge degree. The best thing you can do when you want to discredit something to get people to see your point/agree, is to play the game thoroughly and come up with your list of flaws.
I could probably rant for HOURS how much Gears of War 2 sucked and come up with valid reasons why, but Gearsheads will defend it like it was their first born child. You won't get through to those guys and there is a massive army of them, so don't bother.
Be polite, thought out, and to the point and at the very least those guys will acknowledge your opinion as having been worth hearing out.
DancingJesus
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One more added to the mix:
360 Achievements 9.4
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/halo-reach/review/
360 Achievements 9.4
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/halo-reach/review/
Shake Appeal
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Can't decide which of these many sentences I am enjoying most.BrLvgThrChmstry said:
BrLvgThrChmstry said:
Please cite specific examples of this, instead of lumping everyone into the same group. The OT is filled to the brim with people right now that will be no where to be found in a month or two, the Halo 3 thread started out the same way. The actual core group of people that have posted in these threads for years are some of the most level headed people on GAF.
I was personally hoping for a Suddoth 1 out of 2.
RedRedSuit said:
I find the times the mass gaming media actually give games the best shake is when they ARE AAA titles. I mean IGN's review is 3 pages long and they usually do a page and a half at most for many games. I wish all games were put under this big of a magnifying glass, but at the same time a lot of over inflation is resulted from games being AAA titles.(Gears of War 2's multiplayer getting so many 9/10's was one of the saddest moments in human history for me)
I KNOW that even if I end up not getting into Reach that I will still give the game massive props, because of Bungie. They as a development team are worth every red cent to keep supporting, because they GET games. ODST was my first red flag with them thinking they may have lost it, but according to all I'm reading/seeing for Reach, then this more than makes up for the ODST approach for a game with them. (Sorry ODST lovers, but what started as a 40 dollar thing to add onto H3, turned into a 60 dollar "game," that for many was not the same level of quality you get when you drop that same 60 on previous Bungie titles)
BrLvgThrChmstry
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zlatko said:
But here's the deal: I wasn't bashing the game, I took a cheapshot. Reach has more than met my expectations. In some areas, exceeded them. It's the collective ignorance of most (not all) of the community here.
Like watership, he acknowledged that halo doesn't click with everyone instead of making a smug little comment like someone would have. I respect that. He didn't write off the guy's impression. Some people are so engrossed and invested, they can't seem to comprehend that maybe not everyone shares the same opinion and refuse to discuss, instead they write off them off or whatever. Hell that's why I posted my 'rant' here and not the OT, because I at least have enough respect to not "shit up" the official thread.
Don't worry about ODST lovers. I think you'll find that most agree that the price point was too high; I know I do. I didn't mind paying it, but I understand why those who are more gamers in general were disappointed. I pretty much only play Halo, so it was worth my $60.zlatko said:
zlatko said:
I don't believe for a second that they had anything to do with the pricing, that was all Microsoft. Microsoft made them hold back maps to pack into Halo Wars LE's and tie them into the ODST disc, these maps were practically done in August 08 around PAX and they didn't come out with ODST until a year later. I kind of hope with their next franchise they have more control over their DLC plans.
Kholdstare
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Broman1978
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AwesomeMark V said:
Thank for all links
DancingJesus
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Kholdstare said:
I've seen mostly all of the campaign and I can for a fact say that this is the most straightforward and easy to understand Halo story yet. That being said, there is plenty of easter eggs and fanservice for longtime fans.
RedRedSuit
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zlatko said:
Well, yeah, that's the thing: they take AAA games and give them these giant reviews, but at the same time they just ignore problems -- in the scores at least -- that they wouldn't ignore for smaller games. Both the length of the review and the refusal to be critical shows that they just give these giant games more respect, I guess, than they would a less hyped game. It's natural and all, but I see no reason why a game like Just Cause 2 shouldn't be given the same amount of latitude as a GTA IV. I think it's all just psychology. I think the marketing and the 12:01 embargoes and the exclusive review sessions and all that just get into a lot of reviewers' heads.
I'm conflicted because I've been at both Halo 2 and Halo 3 launch days and had a great time with them. Since then though I've kind of stopped most of my gaming on 360. I want to play Reach but honestly I can't be bothered with paying for LIVE just so I can play one game (Reach).
BrLvgThrChmstry
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I'm sorry, I will say I have made some broad strokes concerning my statements. And obviously, they don't pertain to everyone. I am aware of the core 'group', the small community of gaffers that pretty much represent halo on these boards. I honestly think you guys are leveled headed and respect your opinions...you're usually the ones keeping the thread moving w/ info, discussions, etc. (and this includes some of newcomers to the reach thread as well)
Due to the unintentional nature of my post, seems there's some damage control that needs to be done.
Due to the unintentional nature of my post, seems there's some damage control that needs to be done.
watership said:
Note that the UGO review I linked to is the "Second Opinion," the main opinion being Thierry's from 1UP. So, that review was designed to offer a different perspective on the game, in this instance not a traditional evaluation of the campaign, MP modes, etc. Consider the day the review was posted, and consider also that the UGO offices are in New York City. Entertainment is created and consumed within a specific cultural zeitgeist and I think the writer was commenting on that fact. I found it pretty insightful and valid.