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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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I was already worried about people not being able to connect with these games because of the slower pace and outdated graphics. Add in a month of unplayable matchmaking and I can easily see this game being forgotten and never getting the player base it deserves.

What a shame, too.

Holy shit... Some people.
 
Also I'm enjoying halo 1 legendary as much as ever. I love how almost every combat encounter can play out a dozen different ways each time you retry.

It seems easier than I remember but I think this is my 4th run through the game on legendary so I do kind of remember how things work.

I remember having a lot of trouble in the first room of the truth and reconciliation after the grav lift where the sword elites swarm you but cleared it pretty easy.

On to the silent cartographer!
 
Finally played a game last night after about an hour of trying. Went 1-23 in what may have been the most lag filled multiplayer game I've ever played.

H2A maps sure do look pretty though
 
Holy shit... Some people.

I don't think its unfair to expect these issues to take a month or more to address.

These are not minor annoyances the matchmaking simply does not work. Halo CE is laggy and unplayable online, halo 2 and 4 have numerous crash bugs that many are experiencing. The game can't make even teams for most matches, people are kicked for no reason..

I would put the fixes required for this game on par with battlefield 4 at launch and that took some time to correct.

That's not even mentioning the bugs and performance issues in campaign and with achievements.

Its blatantly obvious this game wasn't finished but the release date was set in stone for financial reasons.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
Just played one team slayer with uneven team. Its stuck on the map selection for the next game now.

At least I suffered no noticiable lag. Not sure if it was dedi server though (I think so).


Edit: I had to quit, even though I received a message saying I would be penalized for quiting.
 
Just out of curiosity, stopped playing SP and am currently trying to join a standard Team DM game before heading to work......


.....holy shit, you guys weren't kidding

HOW could they fuck it up THIS badly?!?!? (0___o)

Also, lol at the Amazon reviews right now!
 
Also I'm enjoying halo 1 legendary as much as ever. I love how almost every combat encounter can play out a dozen different ways each time you retry.

It seems easier than I remember but I think this is my 4th run through the game on legendary so I do kind of remember how things work.

I remember having a lot of trouble in the first room of the truth and reconciliation after the grav lift where the sword elites swarm you but cleared it pretty easy.

On to the silent cartographer!
Check out my post below. Any pointers?
Well, I just got to the tractor beam section of Truth & Reconciliation. How silly of me to forget the six packs of enemies that come down, Elites, Jackals, and Grunts. I've about 4 rounds left in my sniper and am trying to save them for the Hunters. And I keep getting wrecked by one of the eventual packs.

I've cleared this part about 3 times now on Legendary, and all I remember is I eventually got past it and this section has forever caused me PTSD.

GAF, any tips for this part?
 

PooBone

Member
Am I the only one who thinks Halo CE's campaign does not hold up after all these years? It felt like such a slog, maze after maze. The Library is still the worst level in videogames if you ask me.

I started the Halo 2 campaign last night and it feels so much more alive.

I couldn't disagree more. Halo 2 was a wreck compared to Halo CE. Only thing I'll give you is slow movement speed, leading it to feel somewhat sloggy.
 
Shit, are you serious? There is no update patch coming this weekend to address multiplayer?! If true i hope i can get GS to take it back.

Straight from the horse's mouth is that the content update (patch) coming today is only to address single player issues whereas multiplayer issues are "fixed" with daily server side changes and a content update (patch) within the week. I am reading content update to mean a patch, and the within a week to mean NOT this weekend. They could have said weekend.

Edit: That's my reading of Dan Ayoub's statement from yesterday

Daily server-side tweaks to continue to improve time to get into games
A Content Update tomorrow that addresses some campaign fixes and scoring issues
Content Updates and server side tweaks over the next week focused on matchmaking
 

Fox Mulder

Member
I don't think its unfair to expect these issues to take a month or more to address.

These are not minor annoyances the matchmaking simply does not work. Halo CE is laggy and unplayable online, halo 2 and 4 have numerous crash bugs that many are experiencing. The game can't make even teams for most matches, people are kicked for no reason..

I would put the fixes required for this game on par with battlefield 4 at launch and that took some time to correct.

That's not even mentioning the bugs and performance issues in campaign and with achievements.

Its blatantly obvious this game wasn't finished but the release date was set in stone for financial reasons.

this is pathetic. Makes me not even want to buy it going forward. I'm tired of these companies shitting out broken games and getting away with it because of hype and embargoes.
 
What the hell is up with the multiplayer? I cannot get into a game with decent performance. The lag is just awful with my character jittering all over the player and targets warping around the map. It's impossible to play.


Finally able to get into games now but every game I've joined has been unplayable.

Just curious, can you post your Xbox one detailed network stats? Also, is your NAT Open or Strict (people say it doesn't matter cuz dedis but still curious). I was playing h2a perfectly last night and this is my connection:

Down: 33.68 Mbps
Up: 2.00 Mbps
Packet loss: 0%
MTU: 1480
Latency: 83ms
Wireless strength: 67% (this is on the 5ghz network from my dual band router, if I connect to the 2.4ghz one the stats are almost the same but signal strength is 100% due to G having better range)
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
The only two matches I played until now were Halo 3 and Halo 2 Classic, both no lag here. Not sure if it was dedis though (cause those p2p reports).
 

Skele7on

Banned
Am I the only one who thinks Halo CE's campaign does not hold up after all these years? It felt like such a slog, maze after maze. The Library is still the worst level in videogames if you ask me.

I started the Halo 2 campaign last night and it feels so much more alive.

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Never return here. Ever.
 
Straight from the horse's mouth is that the content update (patch) coming today is only to address single player issues whereas multiplayer issues are "fixed" with daily server side changes and a content update (patch) within the week. I am reading content update to mean a patch, and the within a week to mean NOT this weekend. They could have said weekend.

Edit: That's my reading of Dan Ayoub's statement from yesterday

If so consider me super bummed. I was hoping i'd be able to at least play some "fixed" multiplayer this weekend. I've played the campaigns over and over... i bought it because they brought multiplayer back.

Halo MCC is turning into something much worse that the BF4 fiasco.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Halo CE's campaign does not hold up after all these years? It felt like such a slog, maze after maze. The Library is still the worst level in videogames if you ask me.

I started the Halo 2 campaign last night and it feels so much more alive.

I know it is your opinion, but no. You are just wrong..... :) Although I do agree that the library is still awful, but the rest of CE is sublime
 
Am I the only one who thinks Halo CE's campaign does not hold up after all these years? It felt like such a slog, maze after maze. The Library is still the worst level in videogames if you ask me.

I started the Halo 2 campaign last night and it feels so much more alive.

Just did Library last night/this morning on Heroic before heading to work

Yeah, fuck that level.

Its not that its really hard mind you, but rather just terrible in both layout/design and length

That level is undefendable, even after all these years and is just a blight on the franchise.
Bungie/343's refusal to fix after all this time just exacerbates it.

Assualt on control room gets dangerously close to this at times as well...
 
Finally got into my first match after trying since midnight of launch.

But the lag was fucking unbearable and I quit.

I'm just going to refund and come back when things are fixed. No rush. Plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
 

Skele7on

Banned
Listen I love it because I got

"That Just Happened
Complete the level “The Library” on Heroic difficulty or higher without dying.
Unlocked 12/2/2011"

and

Speed Reader
Complete the level “The Library” on Legendary difficulty in 30 minutes or less.
Unlocked 12/2/2011

at the same time. I felt god damn smug, don't take that away from me.
 

E92 M3

Member
I couldn't get a match at all yesterday and decided to play Destiny. Fell back in love. It's like having a fight with a new gf and going back to an old love where the feelings are reignited. I really wanted to marry MCC - but Bungie has some cool shit in the pipeline and I am tired of trying to find a match for an hour :(
 
This game is bringing back a lot of memories. Both single and multiplayer. Trying to remember the controls of each halo has gotten me a few deaths but I adjust pretty quickly.
 
Good luck.

Just started my LASO run for CE, but damn does the foreign skull make it hard. Not being able to use plasma nades or the plasma pistol makes it hard as hell.

I feel you man, it's really taking me about 3 hours to complete each mission, I think i'm 4 hours into truth and reconciliation and just now I'm at the point where I have killed the hunters and I need to tackle the room that just throws waves of energy sword wielding elites @ you. :(
 
I couldn't get a match at all yesterday and decided to play Destiny. Fell back in love. It's like having a fight with a new gf and going back to an old love where the feelings are reignited. I really wanted to marry MCC - but Bungie has some cool shit in the pipeline and I am tired of trying to find a match for an hour :(

Bungie Halo is best Halo
 
I couldn't get a match at all yesterday and decided to play Destiny. Fell back in love. It's like having a fight with a new gf and going back to an old love where the feelings are reignited. I really wanted to marry MCC - but Bungie has some cool shit in the pipeline and I am tired of trying to find a match for an hour :(

Same here. Ended up going back to Destiny in anticipation of the new updates as well as being tired of what's going on with the MCC.

Can't wait for MCC: The Remaster or MCC: The Working Edition to come out in a few months.

:D

D:
 

Gandie

Member
Can't play MP at all. Only get the message, that I couldn't connect to the Host. Sucks.


On another note, the first few missions of H2 are very good. And the Blur cutscenes are insane.
 

HaleStorm

Member
I feel you man, it's really taking me about 3 hours to complete each mission, I think i'm 4 hours into truth and reconciliation and just now I'm at the point where I have killed the hunters and I need to tackle the room that just throws waves of energy sword wielding elites @ you. :(

Those LASO achievments look terrifying. I would be fine if they did not turn off the Aim Assist. Well, not fine, but it would be doable.
 
Is my Halo CE mid-mission save going to be there when I load it tonight?

Even though I didn't suffer any crashes before I saved and quit, I'm still pretty scared.
 
Listen, my friends were laughing at me last night. But I came out of replaying Halo: CE just frustrated and angry. It has not aged well at all. It doesn't help that it performs like an absolute mess. But yeah, Assault on Control Room, The library and then repeating portions of Assault on control room two stages later made me want to chuck my xbox out the window. The vehicles are also absolute garbage. I honestly never want to touch it again

With that said, I powered through it, started Halo 2 and am back to bliss with that. Thank goodness, too.

A-men

.....tho I'll still give it another show on Legendary.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
I'm at The Library now, have to go to work but just turned the console off with instant-on. I'm at the start of this level, but I've seen that there are plenty plenty plenty of enemies, I mean... is it reommended to kill all of them before continue to the next section, or just leave some of them behind? Man... it seems they dont stop spawning ever! o_O

Am loving the Halo CE campaing though! Awesome game, and in my honest opinion, it doesnt feel aged at all. Such a fluid gameplay!


I've many complains about the MP match-making though! A complete and disappointing mess! Also there are some bugs when creating a party, or sound issues, or whatever that can be pretty annoying aswell.
I hope that 343 is really doing their best to fix the MM problems, and then that they work on some bugs... cause things are really messy in this collection.


I dont understand how some reviewers lower scores because theyre tired of shooters, or because its too much content and a time sink, when that doesnt even make sense; and then doesnt criticise the collection problems, such as those innumerous bugs. Its like they dont even played it.
 

E92 M3

Member
Bungie Halo is best Halo

That is true and makes it even worse that this collection is broken.

Same here. Ended up going back to Destiny in anticipation of the new updates as well as being tired of what's going on with the MCC.

Can't wait for MCC: The Remaster or MCC: The Working Edition to come out in a few months.

:D

D:

Very sad sad that in a few months the population would have taken a huge hit.
 
It is painfully obvious that this game has a lot more than "server issues". Is there any ETA on the client side patch that is so desperately needed? If matchmaking stays broken this weekend I can guarantee a significant portion of players will put the game down and never pick it back up again. Please don't kill the last chance classic Halo has before you really turn it into space cod.
 
It is painfully obvious that this game has a lot more than "server issues". Is there any ETA on the client side patch that is so desperately needed? If matchmaking stays broken this weekend I can guarantee a significant portion of players will put the game down and never pick it back up again. Please don't kill the last chance classic Halo has before you really turn it into space cod.

"Over the next week"
 

Ultimen

Banned
343i is incapable of handling this franchise with the respect it deserves. I can't believe they didn't take out any of the glitches from H2, even the re-mastered version has pop in textures. Brutal.


Where is Frankie? He has been awful quiet lately, seems like he anticipated this and vanished.
 

Sec0nd

Member
I know that there are some issues with split screening the campaigns but how playable is it? Are the issues really jarring or something you can just shrug off?
 

E92 M3

Member
343i is incapable of handling this franchise with the respect it deserves. I can't believe they didn't take out any of the glitches from H2, even the re-mastered version has pop in textures. Brutal.


Where is Frankie? He has been awful quiet lately, seems like he anticipated this and vanished.

I think he is communicating in the community thread.
 
Check out my post below. Any pointers?

Somehow I had plenty of sniper ammo for the whole level. I went through it just using the sniper and the AR. Used at and plasma grenades to clean up grunts and jackals, and took elites out with sniper as soon as possible. Use the cloak in that first room later on in the waves, because its random when you get those gold sword elites. When cloaked you can go sticky them pretty easy or even go for the back stab/melee in the back for the instant kill.

Be patient and take cover for shields to recover, don't stay in one place too long, and take advantage of choke points for plasma grenades.
 
Those LASO achievments look terrifying. I would be fine if they did not turn off the Aim Assist. Well, not fine, but it would be doable.

It's a total fuck fest, I'm fine with no autoaim though, makes it more challenging.

I had a scenario earlier where I was standing on one side of the map at the end of halo and on the other end was my hog, health pack, a grenade and ammo. I had next to no ammo left, no shield and one red bar of health.

In between us two were about 20-30 covenant, anything hits me i'm basically straight up dead and there is no where to go. I had hit a checkpoint too and I was about 2 an a half hours into the mission, so no going back.

Over the course of an hour I managed to formulate a plan to bait as much covie as possible onto plasmas on the ground, chuck my only grenade, hit as many as possible with the chain reaction, and use that distraction to make it to the equipment I needed to finish the mission. I felt like a genius and so accomplished for doing it and not giving in.

It was archived here: http://www.twitch.tv/silphonicaaa/b/588614222

I think if you skip to 3 hours and 2 mins, it's the last half an hour of that story, I want as many people as possible to admire my brilliance haha.
 
It is painfully obvious that this game has a lot more than "server issues". Is there any ETA on the client side patch that is so desperately needed? If matchmaking stays broken this weekend I can guarantee a significant portion of players will put the game down and never pick it back up again. Please don't kill the last chance classic Halo has before you really turn it into space cod.

It's sad that it will happen, but people are already getting refunds.
 

JoeTonic

Neo Member
This game is bringing back a lot of memories. Both single and multiplayer. Trying to remember the controls of each halo has gotten me a few deaths but I adjust pretty quickly.

I think most of my Halo 2 deaths are from be trying to BXR Covenant, and forgetting that I'm using global bumper jumper. "RB B R" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

I've also wasted an absurd amount of ammo trying to double shot too. I never used these combos playing Halo 2 originally, but I'm so glad they left them in. It makes Halo feel like street fighter or something.
 
Somehow I had plenty of sniper ammo for the whole level. I went through it just using the sniper and the AR. Used at and plasma grenades to clean up grunts and jackals, and took elites out with sniper as soon as possible. Use the cloak in that first room later on in the waves, because its random when you get those gold sword elites. When cloaked you can go sticky them pretty easy or even go for the back stab/melee in the back for the instant kill.

Be patient and take cover for shields to recover, don't stay in one place too long, and take advantage of choke points for plasma grenades.
I just burn through sniper ammo and what little I have left I'm saving for the Hunters that transport down. I remember the bay areas being a little iffy, too, but man this part right before boarding Truth is really grating me. I remember it being a huge PITA before, but I just want to complete Halo:CE on Legendary so I can get to H2! :D
 
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