Really? Damn. That explains a lot, what content they outsourced and to whom is the important question then obviously.
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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action
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Really? Damn. That explains a lot, what content they outsourced and to whom is the important question then obviously.
Yup, Bungie Outsourced Halo PC to Gearbox, who outsourced Alien to Timegate soon after.
Now 343i are outsourcing games to Ruffian, Saber, Certain Infinity and the UI to United Front Games. So I expect one of these to continue the legacy and outsource a game next.
Diablohead
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outsourcing all the work most likely means we won't get huge fps and performance updates outside of some tweaks unless these groups go back and spend more time with the code, and that costs money!
RowdyReverb
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This isn't launch weekend for these games. People who wanted to play last weekend will want to play next weekend. The games have already proven themselves and established fan bases years ago.
If this were a new game, or worse a new IP, I would agree with you that botching launch weekend spells doom, but this case is different.
I'm gonna be fighting dragons on Wednesday.
Anyone thinking that this will get fixed completely is lying to themselves. MCC is dead on arrival and people are scraping off whatever they can get since they love the series so much. I don't understand why there isn't more outrage over this. I guess they are trying to get people to forget by giving more dates. Next week when the matchmaking is half fixed with the patch they will say another patch is coming that will fix everything else. Soon, people will have accepted that the collection is shit and moved on.
Meanwhile, Frankie is posting in OT and Halo 5 threads and barely posts in this thread. You can tell that the urgency to fix this just isn't there.
I'm happy all the glitches are still in.
Duxxy3
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Just the way I see it. And I played and beat halo long ago when it first came out. I think the campaign is the weakest in the collection.
It'll cost money regardless of who does the work.
maneil99
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What if this isn't enough?
buddha0991
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Can't say I agree considering Halo CE:A's awful, awful art style.
Almost felt like sub-30fps in the outdoor areas of The Silent Cartographer as well.
ElRenoRaven
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Hope that update is more tested than the actual game was. I would hate for it to add more bugs to it.
Strickland
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Haha what's testing? Their track record in testing ANYTHING is non existent, I really would not hold my breath at all until I see it. lol at games nowadays not working until two weeks at least post launch, I have no fucking clue how this is legal. It's like buying a car with a broken AC.
Warm Machine
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Is this really necessary?
Why is it not necessary? He paid money for the game and it doesn't work. He has every right to be angry.
What's the problem?
Strickland
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Just as necessary as all 343i's excuses so far the "we are so SO sorry FORGIVE US!" when they had all this time to test the game or even release a Beta.
Fuck yes it's necessary when my best friend got me an Xbone as a gift with a copy of Halo only to have this thing broken for two weeks and I can't even play with him online.
All the disappointments and failed damage control is intoxicating.
Be cool about it all the power to you man, but don't insinuate this is okay and all will be fixed when all is broken.
Meanwhile, behold, another ViDoc from 343i about Halo 5 beta and how awesome and a privilege it is to work on it is gonna be released for the beta in the next two weeks.
"is this really necessary?" is why companies release BROKEN. ASS. GAMES cause they know the backlash will be Meh, this behavior in the industry is wrong and 343i BUYING TIME with a patch ETA is horrible, copies will still get sold and people will still get disappointed, the patch will release and there will be a shit ton of things wrong with the game.
IGN's review was a disgrace, they spent almost all of the time of the review mentioning how broken the MP is, the lifeblood of Halo, and they still end up stamping it a 9,even after the score they mention the broken Multiplayer. If your product has half the components BROKEN, what kind of message you're sending giving it an almost perfect score.
I want what I paid for (my friend paid for) to WORK, does that make me entitled that I want my game to work on release? Does it make me impatient and it's my fault that I didn't restart my MM search every 5 minutes with a glimmer of hope that this should do it? If so, this generation is even worse than I thought expecting to pay for a working product and that I'm a jerk for expecting my games to work on release.
Because hey, "these things are a norm now on release".
SlipperyMoose
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Something feels off about playing these games. I have played all the Halos and am usually pretty good at them but I feel as if I am just getting rained with by bullets in this game and dying right away. Maybe I'm just rusty.
44 minutes and counting... not a soul
Thursday War
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:lol :lol :lol
So they've been working on this today as well and you guys are still having troubles with match making? Looks like the problem is bigger than I thought. What a mess.
By the time they fix it at this pace, most people wouldn't care about this game anymore. Not to mention, GTA 5 is dropping next Tuesday and looks fucking awesome as all hell. Yikes.
GG 343 and Microsoft.
NobleGundam
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At least it's a stable match, right? RIGHT?!
This should be a game mode.
ozz ex machina
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In your ideal world, would you have rather the game delayed until Feb and have it without any issues? Then have the h5 beta in the summer, and h5 not out till sometime 2016?
Warm Machine
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The game came out less than a week ago so don't claim two weeks. When the patch is out it will be a week and a day. Claims about them not testing anything is unfounded. It was obviously tested and those tests probably came back as it looking good.
The real world has hundreds of thousands of players pounding on servers and systems. In a given hour since release more people have tried the game than hundreds of testers will have been able to in the course of 4 months.
The assumption that MS and 343i wanted and willfully torpedoed their tentpole release of 2014 is ridiculous. You think they wanted the damage not only to the Halo brand, but of the Xbox Brand, and stability of Xbox Live that would be caused by releasing the game in a broken state? You think they embarked on a massive collection like this only to want it to sink? If it is any consolation, this is hurting them just as much as it is hurting you. A bunch of devs probably thought they would be able to see their families and go on vacation but instead they are back in the office doing OT tracking down online connection bugs.
A world where stuff you buy works as intended is too much to ask?
Why are you excluding all of the single player and menu bugs? Those were there when the game shipped and 343 knew they were there. They spent money outsourcing the game and the result wasn't nice, so instead of taking the time to fix it and spend more money they cut their losses and moved to Halo 5 instead. Damaging brands? If they didn't want to damage the brand they shouldn't have released it like this in the first place. Who cares about that when there are people that will come up with excuses and buy the next release anyway.
Emperor Bohe
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I'm getting team slayer games quite quickly now. Dunno what's changed.
Vestal
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There is only so much that artificial load testing can reveal. I know from experience. Their mistake was not doing a live beta to iron out the Matchmaking issues. I am willing to give them till this big update to see were this goes.
They are merely optimizing what they can on server end to speed up matchmaking process... for example.... removing a lot of search filters so you are more likely to get matched with people
There's a problem client side, so a patch is necessary to resolve the issues (coming wednesday)
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Strickland
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In my ideal world, it's not my problem when a game is released, I'm a customer that pays for a game and expect it to work. In my ideal world a company usually release a Beta if they expect their product to be a clusterfuck on launch. In my ideal world there's something called a fucking Quality Assurance department that tests a game. I'm sorry that it's too much for me to ask that a game works on launch.
The patch comes out next Wednesday, two weeks with a broken product.
Also, unfounded claims? Please explain to me how "1th"gets through testing? The" We played 1000s of matches at 4 PM every single day" is bullshit, nobody finished 1th before? My Microsoft Word spellchecks that automatically!
"We thank you for paying us to beta test the game for us."
Don't be. You have every right to be angry. You bought a product that was advertised to be working. And it isn't working as intended.
So I thought this video work for Unity but it since MCC is currently a mess in all aspects I'll post it here.
Too Many Cooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
Too Many Cooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
psychotron
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Really getting pissed now. Achievements not popping, now I just got hit with that bug that puts you right in the library, skipping a level. They should be ashamed for releasing such sloppy unfinished shit. It sucks because I want to love this so much!!
nhlducks35
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Welp, glad this game is getting eviscerated in reviews on Amazon
Currently 3/5
Currently 3/5
Can't say I agree considering Halo CE:A's awful, awful art style.
Almost felt like sub-30fps in the outdoor areas of The Silent Cartographer as well.
Look at all dat juice.
ozz ex machina
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I'm asking if you would rather have the game now with a fix 8 days later. Or delaying the whole thing by a few months.
Obviously getting the game out functional for this deadline was too much to ask for by Microsoft for the 343 team and third party devs who worked on this release.
People in this thread act like 343 delivered this package out of spite or malice...It was rushed out the door and Microsoft will be made accountable if enough people are upset and would have rather had the game delayed.
"Its only been 5 days bro. They couldn't stress test the matchmaking before. It's server issues. That's all. It'll get fixed. That isn't necessary."
lmao
Fine in that case Naughty dog should release a build of Uncharted 4 right now that barely works and then release a patch next year when it's finished.
This game will never be fixed completely. They would have never shipped it if they had any intentions of fixing it. Come to me when the single player, ui, and matchmaking issues are fixed and I will gladly admit I was wrong.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Has anyone tried askng for a refund if you bought the game via digital download. Ive tried to play mp everyday this week and have been in zero matches. Its Saturday night, gf's at some comedy show, dishes are done and I want to play.
Fuck this game, its been 5 days. I want my money back.
Fuck this game, its been 5 days. I want my money back.
There isn't any excuses when money is being transferred from one party to another. I would rather have this in Feb. working properly than them patching until Feb. to get it working.
How is that 2 weeks?
TheTurboFD
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People have gotten refunds just contact Xbox customer support.
It didn't need 4 months of work really delaying it 2 weeks and having a short mp beta would have helped a lot. However there was no way that would happen MS wanted this on the shelves before black friday.
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