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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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daedalius said:
No way. Destiny is broken in much different ways.
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Yes, but I was able to find matches no problem.

Too much of a wait and hassle every time I played. Playing with friends is useless plus it's hit and miss alone.

Doesn't even help I can't even complete Truth and Reconciliation on Legendary solo. :(
 
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Head.spawn said:
I literally just downloaded the patch a few minutes ago, loaded up the game... went to multiplayer and started a search, pressed Y a bunch of times because someone said not to, it found players, joining session, joining game, now it's literally loading the map.

People picked Team Slayer on Zenith.
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Lucky for you. I can't play alone (not that I want to) since I lose my saves, I can't play co op since I can't get into a party, same for private matches, Forge is missing features, half the playlists are missing, and I can't join a match anyway. Oh and local co op runs at 20fps when it isn't skipping levels or crashing completely.

Destiny is not unplayable.
 
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Spasm

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So, can you really no longer stay with the same group of players any more? It seems that closing the post-game carnage report boots you all the way out to choosing a playlist.
 
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Spasm said:
So, can you really no longer stay with the same group of players any more? It seems that closing the post-game carnage report boots you all the way out to choosing a playlist.
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In the notes they say that's intended apparently, saying it's inline with other Halos, but I don't remember having to choose the playlist between every single game in the other games.
 
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Narpas Sword0 said:
Lucky for you. I can't play alone (not that I want to) since I lose my saves, I can't play co op since I can't get into a party, same for private matches, Forge is missing features, half the playlists are missing, and I can't join a match anyway. Oh and local co op runs at 20fps when it isn't skipping levels or crashing completely.

Destiny is not unplayable.
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I guess so. I got rekt in the match, but I had no issues besides teams being unbalanced, which they said they're addressing in the next patch. I just went to check my game save and that loaded fine, though I did lose progress once like two weeks ago or something. I've never seen it skip levels either.

Some of the weird issues this game has, it seems to be hot or cold with not much in-between.
 
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VinFTW said:
That's being addressed fully next patch.

And for those saying Destiny is playable, that's BS, I never got an answer or any fix for the disconnect bug. Disconnected constantly. Was very, very frustrating.
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Never had that issue with Destiny. I can find any game type under 30 seconds with balanced teams right now on Destiny. MCC not so much
 
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I get a black background in UI after searching for a few minutes. I also get debug text "$Searching_For_Players" for the first second or two after starting the matchmaking process.
 
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VinFTW said:
That's being addressed fully next patch.

And for those saying Destiny is playable, that's BS, I never got an answer or any fix for the disconnect bug. Disconnected constantly. Was very, very frustrating.
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I've only been disconnected twice over many hours of pvp. I even got to lvl5 IB with no disconnect. I disconnected once last night. Majority of my friends on PSN don't have that issue either.. So maybe it's you.

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Never had that issue with Destiny. I can find any game type under 30 seconds with balanced teams right now on Destiny. MCC not so much
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Exactly. That's been the case for everyone I talk to also.
 
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GobFather said:
I've only been disconnected twice over many hours of pvp. I even got to lvl5 IB with no disconnect. I disconnected once last night. Majority of my friends on PSN don't have that issue either.. So maybe it's you.


Exactly. That's been the case for everyone I talk to also.
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Google "disconnect issue destiny"
 
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zma1013 said:
In the notes they say that's intended apparently, saying it's inline with other Halos, but I don't remember having to choose the playlist between every single game in the other games.
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Ugh, this is so lame. It disconnects you from the other players as soon as the game is over. No post-game shit-talking. This is less Halo-ish, to be sure.
 
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VinFTW said:
Google "disconnect issue destiny"
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Why? I'm telling you my experience. I don't need to google my own experience. There are obviously some who disconnect at times but that hasn't been my experience or those I've met doing raids or pvp. Don't make a blanket statement when many others aren't experiencing the issues you are saying. A few even have responded that they didn't have issues either(scroll up and there are at least 5 posts in this page alone saying they didn't have issues with destiny servers) so... Your experience is your own and a few others.


replies from this page alone regarding destiny vs mcc server issues:

Dubz said:
Weird, because I've been playing all week and enjoying myself. This game on the other hand...Searching.
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ChiefEdiri said:
Yes, but I was able to find matches no problem.

Too much of a wait and hassle every time I played. Playing with friends is useless plus it's hit and miss alone.
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Narpas Sword0 said:
Destiny is not unplayable.
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manny10032 said:
Never had that issue with Destiny. I can find any game type under 30 seconds with balanced teams right now on Destiny. MCC not so much
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Wow, MCC is actually giving me somewhat acceptable search times for the first time ever. It feels so strange being able to actually play without having to set aside time....
 
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GobFather said:
Why? I'm telling you my experience. I don't need to google my own experience. There are obviously some who disconnect at times but that hasn't been my experience or those I've met doing raids or pvp. Don't make a blanket statement when many others aren't experiencing the issues you are saying. A few even have responded that they didn't have issues either(scroll up and there are at least 5 posts in this page alone saying they didn't have issues with destiny servers) so... Your experience is your own and a few others.


replies from this page alone regarding destiny vs mcc server issues:
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okay, so the whole "its working for me you're doing something wrong" or "try harder if you cant get games" thought process is very looked down upon... but its okay here?

I even gave you proof its pretty widespread issue.
 
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VinFTW said:
okay, so the whole "its working for me you're doing something wrong" or "try harder if you cant get games" thought process is very looked down upon... but its okay here?

I even gave you proof its pretty widespread issue.
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You mean when you said "google" it?

Btw I never denied there were disconnect issues. I even said I had a few but as you can see from the people replying here and my experience... It isn't as bad as YOU are saying.

Again these are people's response on this page alone:

Dubz said:
Weird, because I've been playing all week and enjoying myself. This game on the other hand...Searching.
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ChiefEdiri said:
Yes, but I was able to find matches no problem.

Too much of a wait and hassle every time I played. Playing with friends is useless plus it's hit and miss alone.
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Narpas Sword0 said:
Destiny is not unplayable.
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manny10032 said:
Never had that issue with Destiny. I can find any game type under 30 seconds with balanced teams right now on Destiny. MCC not so much
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From previous page:

Welfare said:
When I got Destiny at launch, that shit worked. This game doesn't.
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Madness said:
Not really. Destiny may not be a fun game, may not be a balanced game, maybe even be a lame grindfest of loot, and poor decisions. But MCC has flat out been broken for a lot of people as in not working
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RSB said:
Nah, Destiny is a bad game, but it works well. The MCC is the exact opposite. LOL.
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Halo Waypoint said:
Made an update to the high-level matchmaking flow that will reset lobbies after each match. Moving forward, players and party leaders need to press "B" after the post-game-carnage report, and select a playlist for their next match. This flow is consistent with previous Halo titles.
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Look, 343, if it helps MM stability, I'm all for it... Just say as much. But making it objectively worse just to be 'consistent'?
Besides, I'm pretty sure that Reach and 4 (not sure about 2 or 3) allowed you to stick with the same players over multiple games until you decide to quit.
 
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Spasm said:
Ugh, this is so lame. It disconnects you from the other players as soon as the game is over. No post-game shit-talking. This is less Halo-ish, to be sure.
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The last time I put time into playing, what you're saying was NOT the case, so I dunno what to tell you.

I stayed in a group for about 5 matches straight. It could be the case that people are quitting the match right away, otherwise it should eventually have a countdown in the top-right corner.

That's how it worked a week or so ago.
 
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Spasm

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Head.spawn said:
The last time I put time into playing, what you're saying was NOT the case, so I dunno what to tell you.

I stayed in a group for about 5 matches straight. It could be the case that people are quitting the match right away, otherwise it should eventually have a countdown in the top-right corner.

That's how it worked a week or so ago.
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Right, today's patch nixed that. That's my beef.

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Narpas Sword0 said:
I paid $60 for this shit and it will maybe work in a few months.
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It's working pretty damn good right now. I haven't gone over a minute searching for a match. Still a little wonky in the menus and whatnot, but MM seems a lot better.
 
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zma1013 said:
Jokes on you, even when you do finally complete it, you got a chance it won't even register the level as ever being played.
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Not really. Played H1,3,and 4. Alone as well as on co-op and never really had any problem with the campaigns nor the achievements which as I discussed here a while back that the problems with this game don't seem to be all consistent between the users. As long as I quit only when I finish a level then all is good. Achievements have been late in opening up but they eventually do, so far I have unlocked achievements for whatever I did in the game. Only problem I had was with Halo 4, played with 2 others and in 4 instances the game just didn't want to load up even if it's life dependent on it.

augmental said:
What does it show as the total game install size after the update? I'm still showing 59.1 GB. I think I might need to turn 'Instant On' off if I'm not going to be able to tell that I am getting an update. I'm not sure if Sunset Overdrive updated either.
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Hopefully someone else could help you since I am not near the console right now but i'm sure it's the number you posted. I have the game on retail, if it helps.
 
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Spasm

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augmental said:
What does it show as the total game install size after the update? I'm still showing 59.1 GB. I think I might need to turn 'Instant On' off if I'm not going to be able to tell that I am getting an update. I'm not sure if Sunset Overdrive updated either.
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MCC would NOT update for me. I launched it several times with no update prompt. I hard reset the Xbox, then it updated the next time I launched it.
 
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I'm just the messenger but my friend posted this on waypoint and its quite a good read.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/84ad72a8b51847978545f685f651fc15/topics/mcc-halo-5-community-oh-my/0785a6c5-43d1-49f1-a82c-095512606be6/posts?page=1#post2
This post is to mainly express how I feel about MCC, upcoming H5 and most importantly the Halo community. I'm kind of tired of just sitting by and not being active in the community, also all the bold font are questions I have heard in the past multiple times from other players. I'm going to take a stab at them all in one post on how I feel about them.
I with the rest of the community agree that the MCC release is upsetting, however it's not the end of my life. To be honest I'd rather be here instead of waiting and wondering when the next time I might LAN Halo CE or Halo 2 classic. Yeah, it's a bummer that it takes forever to find a game. BUT it's a lot better than not having it at all. (BUT I PAID FOR $60 BETA!? I WANTED THE POLISHED VERSION! I WOULD HAVE RATHER OF WAITED!!!) Well guess what, I did too! I paid 60 dollars for a buggy game..... But you know what... I would still have paid $60 right now to play Halo 5. Let's do a little bit of math, there are 27 days left until the beta, if i break it down per cost of each day it would be $2.25 rounded up. I'd rather pay that than going to the gas station for an over priced soda, I still would have done that for any of the halos. (BUT "CALL OF HALO 5" LOOKS LIKE TRASH!!!) Oh don't you worry love, I'll get back to you on that! Let's stay on the current topic for now. ( BUT STILL.... I would still rather waited for it!!!!). Oh, Perfect! Just simply turn off your Xbox and wait, easy solution, which that brings me to my next point.
From what I’m guessing 343I had 3 things they could of done with MCC. MCC is an anniversary of Halo 2 which was November 9, 2004 (Great day by the way, I didn't sleep for like 3 days lol) which means that the 10 year mark would have been a few weeks ago on November 11, 2014, which are both on Tuesdays because it is the day that all new releases for pretty much all types of media(dvds,cds,games,etc)are available so the 11th is the closest to the 9th, the original anniversary date.
Anyways, 3 options. Keep in mind that I'm aiming for the multiplayer experience, not the campaign (btw which has been very beautiful on the single player)
1) Only make halo 2 anniversary (because the Halo CE anniversary went over so well..) and nothing else which mean no Halo CE, no H2 classic, no H3 and for the H4 fans no H4 for you.)
2) Push the game back until who knows when and wait even longer, make the fans mad due to it not being a TRUE anniversary of Halo 2.
3) Release the game with a few bugs (which sounds like to me on their closed server they didn't have this big of issues for matchmaking) then release patches.
At this point pick your poison, for me I'd rather be able to play a custom game like I did in Halo 2 when modding ruined match making. Yeah customs are buggy as well, it sucks that there are so many steps to change teams, it's hard to get a game going, so on and so on, but I'm still able to play Halo vs not to.
(BUT 343I DROPPED THE BALL HOW CAN THEY MESS THIS UP! ITS A SIMPLE THING TO DO!) Simple? I didn't know developing games was easy? Yeah i mean, I can see that having 5 game engines running back to back on one UI (main menu) to flop between games, I mean so many other companies have done this..... let's be real and see what is in front of us, that's a lot of hard work and I haven't seen any "anniversary" games do this. Instead of bashing on this game lets get it fixed!!!!!! Start submitting bugs while you are waiting for the next game in match making!!
Here are a couple links for bug reports.
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/2nab7g/updated_mcc_buglist/
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/85d779d52cfd46918b4f8b638f2e3c7b/topics
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=931336
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=929710

If there are more sites I'd be MORE THAN happy to post more up.
(But you've got to admit that this game is buggy and frustrating.) Yes of course it is!!! However I'm not going to keep burning 343I for it! Really I get it, I want to play match making without any hiccups, but let go back 10 years ago. Halo 2 was broken for a few months. (NO IT WASN'T!!!!) Ummm it was indeed quite broken, however not as broken as MCC at launch, but Halo 2 BR was horrible, plasma grenades took forever to blow up, melee was garbage and match making didn't work. Here is a link to update notes. http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_2_Auto-Updates If you look from November all the way to April that was a long time to make an update for the game, how in the world did Halo 2 one of the greatest games survive that!? Coming from Halo CE with a 3 shot pistol to a horrible Battle Rifle was very upsetting. Basically what I'm saying is don't be too quick to sell your game and become Amish for the rest of your life. (Nothing against you Amish people, you guys make beautiful portable fire places)
(But still it should of had a polished release.) Your right, it should have! We are long past that point, either way for 343I they had to chose to either delay the launch or ship how it was, they would of have gotten burnt from the fans either way. What I'm saying is now we should band together to get this game fixed. They need our support and feedback not our consistent burning, to be honest all of this trash talking on this game is going to hurt us (the players) in the long run. If I would have told all my friends that the game is trashed and is complete garbage, most of them would never even bothered to buy the game, which means for me I have reduced setting up custom games or LANS since there would be less players. (BlackPicture you are a fool, you cant do LANS) Yes you can I'll post helpful hits on how to make it work easier later. Back to topic about shooting ourselves in the foot, instead of just 100% bad mouthing this to all my friends, I would just give them a heads up that the game is buggy, but fixable in due time and to wait it out.
(THEY CHANGED HALO CE!!! I CANT SHOOT RIGHT ANYMORE!!!) Ok Mr. "I used to throw a pig skin over a mountain back in my day". It's because you are used to playing split screen in halo CE vs having your own screen in MCC. The split screen, the reticle (the blue circle you aim with) is placed differently and its size to screen ratio is different as well on split screen vs single screen. Trust me its the same, you are just used to split screen halo CE.To be honest Halo CE is updated, earlier in Halo CE you used to not be able to shoot behind you while you were jumping, it may look like it but the bullet was going to your side or rocket then killing yourself. They have now fixed it.
As promised it's time for that halo 5 #swag. (HALO 5!? 343I STILL NEEDS TO FIX MCC!!!!) OK, really?? Do you really think there is only one team at 343I at a given time? MCC goes gold then they hurry and make Halo 5 look as good as it is night now all in less than 1 month? lol No. As you can tell in multiple videos there are a few different teams working from MCC to H5. (meh Call of halo 5......) If you are judging the game over watching a five second leak game play footage you are a fool..... I know what it looks like, (NO! IT HAS COD ADS!!!!) not really....... Watch the real game play and then you can compare it to COD. Comparing a COD hip fire you are all over the place vs H5 it still shoots the same as the other Halo's excluding Halo reach. "zoomed in/ADS" COD ADS slow your movement speed dramatically which makes strafing a joke. In halo you move just the same speed while hip firing! Lastly all there is left to it is the visuals, I mean come on people! It's Xbox One! Let Halo get the Xbox One treatment! Why would we want a cheesy screen effect from Xbox classic? What do i mean? I'll show you.
cheesy zoom in
http://www.halopedia.org/images/d/d4/Halo-2-20070411043848392.jpg
to Modern zoom in.
http://i.imgur.com/QbjYofg.jpg
http://teambeyond.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Halo-5-Aim-Down-Sights.png
(ok ok I kinda get it, but what about sprint.....) These are my feelings on sprint, I like it to get into battle faster, but I hate it when someone makes a poor decision on their map placement, then can hurry and leave, nothing pisses me off more. So if you watch the videos of sprinting in halo 5 all I can say is THANK YOU 343!!! You guys are in the right direction with making sprint work! Halo 1 and Halo 2 don't bother me, but when I play Halo 2 anniversary sometimes I feel naked without it, anyways hopefully you get my point.
It is much easier to trash talk the game then it is to really put yourself out there with your own opinions. I've asked a lot of people why they feel the way they do about H5 and I haven't really gotten a great reply. I mainly run into a copy and paste that someone else had written....
Here are some pro players' (not 343 pro players) feedback so far.
Mikwen's feed back - http://teambeyond.net/forum/index.p...r-beta-reveal-discussion/page-179#entry343834
Flamesword's feek back - http://youtu.be/z3Y2IVQjCdA
Gandhi's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nffMurA-2K0

(ok ok, I'm smelling what you are stepping in, but what if when the beta comes out I don't like it?? what then?) This is the awesome part about the beta! IT'S TRULY A BETA!!! most beta's was only for stress testing networks and finding exploits with little feed back about how the game works. 343I Wants us to truly voice our opinions so PLEASE I cant stress this enough don't just say "this game is a joke" and then leave it at that. PLEASE VOICE YOUR OPINION on how and why, be constructive about it!!! Please fully understand what you are about to submit and how it works!!! For example the ground pound, everyone is saying it's like the Titan Smash from Destiny, WRONG. Ground Pound is very hard to use, you have to be dead on with the player. Titan smash is splash damage which is easy to use. Huge difference! Make sure you fully understand what you are about to submit for feedback!!! This is our game and we need to make sure to help out!!!!
(so it kinda sounds like you are trying to get into bed with 343 by defending them) No not really, I'll be honest I want this game to be back on top. Yeah I am giving 343 benefit of the doubt and believing in them. Heck thank you guys for keeping Halo alive, I was pretty bummed out when I heard reach was going to be the last Halo game. the last 13 years I've had halo to fall back on for a good time. why would I want to stop?? Why would I want it to stop?
THE COMMUNITY UNITY!!!!!! Ok, so the last thing I am going to cover and say is thank you, this is how this game will benefit the casual players and competitive/pro players, this is what i mean by it. In Halo 1 you get pistol start or plasma pistol start with the possibility of radar, pretty simple right? Halo 2 SMG or BR start, maybe plasma pistol turned off on some levels like mid ship. I will now fast forward to Halo Reach... oh boy.. First off where I live I host ALOT of LAN parties.. A LOT at one point it died and this is the reason why. During Halo reach era the problem with it was you have the casual players that played out of the box match making. then you had the pro players playing MLG custom game types which was great but, it cut the halo player base in half, meaning you had people only wanting to play out of the box reach game types (ewww) and pro players wanting to play extremely different game types (jump, movement, gravity, and so on) which there was no middle ground like halo 1 or 2. it was so different and i feel that also hurt the fan base, it wasn't the same fan based. Now with H5 i feel like they are going back to make it the same game experience for everyone with little changes from casual play to competition. so which means what ever game type you play. the br will shoot the same, jump height will be the same, grenade throws will be the same. THIS IS A HUGE benefit for the community. bottom line we need to improve on the community which this will be a huge help for us! Just remember without a community there is no competition for tournaments.
Anyways, thanks guys for taking the time to read this. I'll try my best to reply to any of you, but I've been sick the last 13 days so I'm really behind on a lot of things in my personal life, so bare with me if it takes time to reply. PS add me for Halo CE customs!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE or if you want to get rocked on Halo 2 midship MLG FFA lol. Cheers!!!
-Black Picture. aka Cliff
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I'm playing the game right now and I'm keeping my party with me after matches and backing out. That's a huge improvement to me.
 
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btrboyev said:
No it isn't.
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I think that by this point anyone knows that the experience from one user to another can wildly vary.

I am, as many others, having a worse experience than before. I'm completely unable to get into matches, having a constant black background and already lost count of how many hard freezes the game had tonight.

So, just because things got better on your end, doesn't mean that it's better for everyone.
 
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