Support NeoGAF

[YourExWife]

WHen did Maven start looking like Joe Rogan?

since forever.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

let me just say what everybody else is thinking

Frankie is sexy

there, I said it

 

[Altered Juice]

This is a boring ass match.

Edit: What is with the screen shake when grenades explode? Its ridiculous.

agreed. "pro" kids taking pop shots across the map. im out.

 

[belushy]

Might be a stupid question, but what is the difference between "Mirrored Versions of Objects" and "Objects of Versions Mirrored" ?

 

[Stinkles]

let me just say what everybody else is thinking

Frankie is sexy

there, I said it

Such accuracy

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

This map wouldn't be so campy with CE's weapon sandbox. The BR's kill time is too long, so if you have a power weapon in a power position with a semi-decent setup, you'll get matches like this.

AR/Pistol starts >

Such accuracy

Great panel :]

 

[Tawpgun]

This 60fps stream quality is turning me on.

Upped my stream quality too. So pretty

 

[Stinkles]

Might be a stupid question, but what is the difference between "Mirrored Versions of Objects" and "Objects of Versions Mirrored" ?

It's a joke. Same line was repeated, so we mirrored it instead of deleting it

 

[Mistel]

Might be a stupid question, but what is the difference between "Mirrored Versions of Objects" and "Objects of Versions Mirrored" ?

I'm not sure myself either I can't figure out anything other than they are the same sentence backwards.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Lockdown looks good in action. not as orange as i thought

 

[Fotos]

All the weapons models and animations in H2A look sooooooo good.

I really like the pistol

 

[GrizzNKev]

The guns sound more like captured audio and less like a video game. Like everything in game design, more realistic does not necessarily mean better. The gun sounds in Halo have always been designed to be easily distinguishable. There's also a lot of nostalgia that I feel for the little things, like the reload sound on the sniper, for instance, but maybe I'm just weird about audio.


Yes, please. I watched some of the 1080p60 footage for Sanctuary and it looked incredible. The stream went to shit for me when they showed the H3 teaser, so it just looked like I was watching a stream of existing Halo 3.

I get what you mean. I think, of the human weapons they showed, the SMG retained its audio identity the best. The tail end of the sniper definitely isn't as distinguishable as the old sound.

In line to play Lockout again, then going to the signing to hit on Frank.

 

[Tawpgun]

4 nades each in Halo 2 is awesome.

But in combination with hitmarkers I dunno...

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

4 nades each in Halo 2 is awesome.

But in combination with hitmarkers I dunno...

Simple, get rid of hitmarkers

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Edit: What is with the screen shake when grenades explode? Its ridiculous.

The shaky camera of FPS games these days can be ridiculous. It especially sucks in competitive shooters..

 

[El_Chino]

It's a joke. Same line was repeated, so we mirrored it instead of deleting it

Frankie, could you answer my question if possible? Are we ever going to a collector's edition of MCC or a bundle of some sort?

 

[The Librarian]

All the Halo stuff they showed looks great. Can't wait for release.

 

[YourExWife]

4 nades each in Halo 2 is awesome.

But in combination with hitmarkers I dunno...

yeah - not a fan of visual hit-markers. I think it was best when you had to listen for a spartan to moan to know if your nades hit. More intelligent/natural way of handling the information IMO.

 

[Tawpgun]

Simple, get rid of hitmarkers

I think hitmarkers are great for bullets, but for splash damage stuff? eh.

 

[Computron]

.

 

[belushy]

It's a joke. Same line was repeated, so we mirrored it instead of deleting it

Ah, I see. Lol I feel really stupid.

 

[Kibbles]

Game looks smooth and great. Those red arrow hitmakers tho :S

 

[kittens]

I think hitmarkers are great for bullets, but for splash damage stuff? eh.

I like that compromise.

 

[Stinkles]

I think he meant in game chief vs lore chief.

Up to H4.

 

[darthbob]

Hope we can see some direct feed Halo 3 MCC gameplay soon.

Spoiler

page 117 hype!

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

I like that compromise.

if the bullet hitmarkers are unobtrusive then im fine with that compromise

 

[defghik]

Frankie, are grenade indicators and hit makers going to make it into the final game?

agreed. "pro" kids taking pop shots across the map. im out.

This is how Lockout has always been played at high levels. If you try to make pushes, you're just going to get destroyed because of how easy it is to set up and cover all possible angles of attack. This always has been, and always will be the only way to win on Lockout at high levels of play.

The shaky camera of FPS games these days can be ridiculous. It especially sucks in competitive shooters..

Agreed, I just find it obnoxious.

 

[Computron]

Did they cover what the scripting would entail? Frankie, could you elaborate what we should expect?

 

[Tawpgun]

CTF coming up. I assume the flag works like the Halo 2 flag.

 

[FatMarshall]

Will any websites put up 1080p 60fps Halo 3 gameplay anytime soon? Really dying to see that.

 

[darthbob]

CTF coming up. I assume the flag works like the Halo 2 flag.

Guess we'll get confirmation if flag juggling is still a thing.

 

[LD2k]

Looking good.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Question? Why do people hate hit markers? They're one of the only Halo 4 additions I actually liked.

 

[belushy]

Up to H4.

Another forge question Frankie, is the dynamic lighting glitch fixed. Pretty much if you reach a certain object limit or budget limit the dynamic lighting sort of bugs out. Also, will there be more light options for interiors?

 

[Computron]

Another forge question Frankie, is the dynamic lighting glitch fixed. Pretty much if you reach a certain object limit or budget limit the dynamic lighting sort of bugs out. Also, will there be more light options for interiors?

Will the resolution/sample-count be increased for the indirect shadowing, or have you guys maybe moved to another technique?

Any pictures?

 

[Zoso Achilles]

CTF coming up. I assume the flag works like the Halo 2 flag.

Yeah I thought there already were videos on Sanc that have flag running.

 

[-Ryn]

Question? Why do people hate hit markers? They're one of the only Halo 4 additions I actually liked.

I don't like them much because I think they feel very... "inorganic" I guess would be the word. There are better way to convey hits than markers on your screen. Then there's the part about immersion and how it's weird that bullets send a hit message but that's a different issue.

 

[GoDs DeMoNaToR]

Flag Juggling!

 

[darthbob]

Flag juggling appears to be in, and the announcer is as annoying about it as ever!

 

[GrizzNKev]

Question? Why do people hate hit markers? They're one of the only Halo 4 additions I actually liked.

Because the visual feedback system designed to inform players about the damage they're doing, the shields-> pop-> blood, works really well without hit markers. The only thing they add is knowledge of damage done when you can't see your opponent, like with nades or rockets. That could be considered unfair, I guess.

 

[defghik]

I don't like them much because I think they feel very... "inorganic" I guess would be the word. There are better way to convey hits than markers on your screen. Then there's the part about immersion and how it's weird that bullets send a hit message but that's a different issue.

That's not really the problem. It's that if you chuck random grenades somewhere, you'll get hitmarkers showing the guy is there, even though you would have no idea without them.

 

[kittens]

Question? Why do people hate hit markers? They're one of the only Halo 4 additions I actually liked.

Here's my thoughts from a few days ago:

Hitmarkers take visual / audio feedback (shield flare effect / shield popping sound) and skill (predicting whether or not a grenade you throw will hit the enemy) and dumbs them down. They're an easy, cheap solution when much better solutions can already be found in past games in the series.

Basically: Reach's a/v cues were amazing and I want more of that instead of hitmarkers.

Because the visual feedback system designed to inform players about the damage they're doing, the shilds-> pop-> blood, works really well without hit markers. The only thing they add is knowledge of damage done when you can't see your opponent, like with nades or rockets. That could be considered unfair, I guess.

Yup.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Reach sometimes had TOO much a/v feedback. The Fuel Rod Cannon was lethal not because the damage, but because you were fuckin' blind if that thing went off near you

 

[Sai-kun]

yikes, i left the room for like two minutes and that shit was over

 

[-Ryn]

That's not really the problem. It's that if you chuck random grenades somewhere, you'll get hitmarkers showing the guy is there, even though you would have no idea without them.

Kittens and Grizz put it better than I did but I think that the feel of it is artificial which while not being the main problem, is one. As you said though splash damage revealing positions is an issue as well. It hurts stealth as well as awareness.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

blu team is really Elzaring it up right now, this niggas aint shit

 

[YourExWife]

blu team is really Elzaring it up right now, this niggas aint shit

The D is incoming...

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Oh shit, there's kill cams.

 

[Tawpgun]

Kinda cringey when they call them icebergs...

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Kinda cringey when they call them icebergs...

Glaciers. Polar ice caps.