Poodlestrike
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And yet, he did. Look, I'm not taking 404's stuff as gospel here, but it pretty much lines up exactly with the game I ended up playing, and Bungie isn't forthcoming about their side of things. I don't know what to believe.
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And yet, he did. Look, I'm not taking 404's stuff as gospel here, but it pretty much lines up exactly with the game I ended up playing, and Bungie isn't forthcoming about their side of things. I don't know what to believe.
That's exactly the problem and the reason people are concerned. The game has less than a month to go before it goes gold, and there isn't so much as a screenshot of two of the four games in the package. The media we have seen isn't exactly inspiring, either. Halo 2 Anniversary campaign is running at sub-1080p with framerate problems in every video they've approved for media release. Halo 2 Anniversary multiplayer has been buggy and crashing at publicly demoed events.
There's also very little detail about, well, anything. Playlists, matchmaking, netcode, graphics and performance, etc. It's a pretty stark contrast to Halo games of past (particularly Halo 2 and 3) where the community was made to feel really involved in the development process through betas, regular updates, screenshots, footage, details, etc.
This franchise is one that's near and dear to many people's hearts, myself included, so of course some of us are concerned. It's not a matter of "doom and gloom" or "whining" or "driving up post count" or whatever nonsense you want to label it. It's legitimate concern due to a lack of media and information on a game that's less than a month from going gold and has been very tight-lipped on information in contrast to previous Halo games.
The Master Chief Collection represents a possible rebirth for the franchise and an absolutely huge opportunity for Halo as we know it to establish its foothold this generation. Our concern is out of love, not out of a desire to see it fail.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Not likely to happen. Halo 5's release, however, seems like a good time to show off a good new redesign
Way to ruin my breakfast thanks bro!
ElzarTheBam
Member
I cannot be held responsible for the involuntary action(s) your body produces upon inspection of my avatar.
Hmmmmm, I should really have the above phrase on a t-shirt when talking to ladies.
YOU MONSTER!
I will never quit you.
Poodlestrike
Banned
History's greatest monster, right here.
Welfare
Member
Why do you do this?
ElzarTheBam
Member
I am HaloGaf's reckoning.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I'm seriously considering it until he changes that avatar.
LMAO
Orochinagis
Member
Thats the time where the COD super pro kids and speedy get their consoles right?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yes
It may sound dumb, but I'd rather have an explanation that sounds plausible than just have to continue thinking Bungie is either incredibly incompetent or massive dicks. I mean I don't like DLC much but if it's all new content then fine. Most of the content is ALREADY on the disc though. What the hell is this?
Is it really that implausible that a Bungie (or ex) employee who wanted the community to have SOME explanation did this? A lot of it lines up well with the info we have and if this is a "troll" it's the most generous troll I've ever seen. A lot of things in the explanation actually make Bungie more sympathetic as opposed to ya know, confirming they are just dicks (which wouldn't be that hard to do.
Glorious
The Librarian
Banned
That's really stupid logic.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's wishful thinking. Stupid? How so?
Because there's not a lot of logical connection from "the Reddit guy isn't a Bungie insider" to "Destiny's issues are a result of Bungie being a bunch of dicks." It just means that the Reddit guy isn't based on knowledge of what actually went down.
Look: We are pretty damned sure that there were significant development troubles relating to story integrating pretty late in the game's development. And it's likely that the implications of such circumstances were more broad than just "let's add a Grimoire to the existing product." We don't know what exactly happened, and there are a lot of possibilities.
The Reddit guy's story, and the "Bungie are dicks" stuff, is not even remotely an exhaustive list. Saying that one is false does not imply that the other is true.
biosnake20
Member
Really hope there will be a 399 mcc bundle.
I hope not. I was gonna wait for it too, but I didn't want to pass up on the free copy of destiny + $50
There's not going to be--or at least there won't be an official one. We would have heard of it by now.
For once I actually agree with Dax. All that person on Reddit did was say what everyone has been complaining about. Nothing new was added by that thread. It was a verbatim rehash of a few popular arguing points in a 4 paragraph sequence that told a mildly interesting story.
You guys are suckers.
My point was that the Reddit guys explanation sounded plausible and lines up with the info we currently have. I didn't say it MUST be true or that it proves anything. Nor did I even imply that saying one is false indicates the other is true. All I was saying was I'd LIKE to believe it.
Could it be false? Yes, easily. Could anyone have done it? Of course. However at least it is something in this period of nothing. I may be desperate for an answer but that doesn't mean I am just blindly going with it as if it is fact. I'm just saying it would make sense. It's also better than the alternative which would be Bungie is either incompetent or content to screw us over with DLC. Do you have another explanation other than those two alternatives? I'd love to hear it (that's not some sarcastic challenge I genuinely am interested).
Deej going on and saying we are being "trolled" and that "Bungie Employees are easy to spot" doesn't change anything either. If he gave SOME kind of explanation then that would've helped but all we got was essentially "Trust us" with a cryptic note at the end.
I was only pointing out that it wasn't contradicting any known info. Obviously if it did that would count against it.
The point may have been redundant though.
My god, your avatar.
*Pumps breaks*
IMO the most plausible alternatives would be that there was some kind of major development snag late in development, but with an exact sequence of events that does not line up with 404's story.
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Bungie does have the kind of image at the moment that could do with a good postmortem, but depending on the exact nature of the development troubles, it can be difficult to be simultaneously tactful and transparent.
Obviously that's not a great excuse, but really: although we can be aware that the worst is possible, we don't really have a reason to assume it.
Not very strictly, but your post does imply that if an alternative explanation is not given, you have to assume the worst:
Zoojoo alt?
biosnake20
Member
I need to see that farm again.
NobleGundam
Banned
Nice to know. Halo 3 @1080p60fps looked really nice and impressive. Can't wait how H4 will play.
biosnake20
Member
Where can I watch the halo 3 video in 60fps?
a 60 fps video hasn't been released to my knowledge but there is a video where they show it at a presentation and you can basically see Halo 3 in full 1080p running smooth as hell.
Looking back my wording could've been better so my apologies for any confusion.
I can understand how it might be difficult for them to explain.
Hopefully they will shed some light on what happened soon. An honest explanation can go a long way and they certainly need it.
Didn't one of the streams have an option for it?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
We were talking about things that could possibly go wrong with the MCC, and I just realized: the lack of split screen would probably be my biggest disappointment.
Didn't they confirm it was going to be in?
ElzarTheBam
Member
https://blogs.halowaypoint.com/en-us/blogs/headlines/posts/the-halo-bulletin-6-19-14
I'm pretty sure multiplayer is pretty much like before.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Oh nice! It doesn't explicitly mention PvP multiplayer, though, so I'm still a little wary.
Possibly, I'm just speaking from experience.
I just hope it doesn't look terrible like Halo 4 did in split screen.
I honestly haven't actually seen it. I just remember it being talked about when Halo 3 was shown at one of the panels.