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[BlackTron]

Hate is subjective. And you shouldn't police speech.

"hate speech can only be criminalized when it directly incites imminent criminal activity or consists of specific threats of violence targeted against a person or group."

Thank you for clarifying. I now realize that genocidal chants are probably not specific enough, nor can be legally substantiated to incite imminent violence in most circumstances.

Edit: I noticed that you updated your post with an addition:

Which just seems like a judgement call. Depending on who the judge is, not what the evidence is determines guilt.

There must be some semblance of an idea of what hate speech could be, without having to ask a judge, that would be the basis for putting the matter before a judge in the first place. Sure, a judge makes the final call on whether Alec Baldwin's blunder falls under a damning legal definition; but either way, we know Alec Baldwin shot someone and that, guilty or not, certainly he was policed and nobody had a problem with that.

It should be noted that Congress' basis for censuring Rep. Tlaib was her reposting of a video with "from the river to the sea". With congress-members referencing it as hate speech in their remarks. Despite free speech (including hate speech) being protected under the first amendment and no judge having made a call on whether her example of hate speech was directly inciting or making specific threats, she still found herself rejected.

If you go back a few weeks to the Jewish kids who needed to be escorted out the back door of a library by police. You'd have a HARD TIME making the case that a threat of violence wasn't imminent. Otherwise, why did you need to sneak out with police? Surely, there must be some standard of offense that falls under a reasonable definition of "criminal hate speech" that would create expectation of action by police for further discernment by a judge. But I don't think anybody was arrested, they were allowed to act with impunity while the kids had to slither out the back door like Jews hiding from Nazis in 1940.

 

[EviLore]

Maybe I'm naive but how does TikTok have this much influence? I don't get it, I don't have an account but from what I've seen it's just twitter for videos.

Is there a different kind of influencer on that platform compared to youtube etc.?

More Americans are getting news on TikTok, bucking the trend seen on most other social media sites

In just three years, the share of U.S. adults who say they regularly get news from TikTok has more than quadrupled, from 3% in 2020 to 14% in 2023.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[DeepEnigma]

Are people willing to admit yet that tiktok is and always has been a platform for brainwashing by the CCP and its allies...

I genuinely can't believe that in the short span of just 20+ years we are seeing Americans Justify the horrific attack on the US.

You guys have something really bad growing over there and I genuinely don't know how you stop it.

Edit:

Why are these influencers not arrested? Surely advocating terrorism isn't "free speech"

Newsome and crew rolled out the red carpet and cleaned up their homeless overnight for their CCP handler/boss complete with the streets lined with CCP flags and propaganda signage. They love this radicalized useful idiot shit. There were even Chinese refugees fighting with the CCP plants in the crowd straight out of a Jackie Chan film.

 

[jason10mm]

Newsome and crew rolled out the red carpet and cleaned up their homeless overnight for their CCP handler/boss complete with the streets lined with CCP flags and propaganda signage. They love this radicalized useful idiot shit. There were even Chinese refugees fighting with the CCP plants in the crowd straight out of a Jackie Chan film.

Hang on, you mean San Fransisco is actually CLEAN?!? Damn, better visit quick!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hang on, you mean San Fransisco is actually CLEAN?!? Damn, better visit quick!

Just the motorcade sections. Looked eerily out of N Korea with all the gates and not a single living soul to be found prior to the 'ganda rally.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Spoiler: Graphic Content Warning

 

[Happosai]

Thank you for clarifying. I now realize that genocidal chants are probably not specific enough, nor can be legally substantiated to incite imminent violence in most circumstances.

This particular PDF about the 1st Amendment (a very exhaustive look, use the index) shows that there are clearly unprotected words. Hate speech is overstepping the first and someone too shared here how it is somehow permissible. At any rate, jump to page 6 and read about "Fighting Words and True Threats". By all means, every anti-Semitic meet/rally/riot/march violates this and should be considered unprotected. Put simple, authority figures, lawyers and such should have the right to have them tried, convicted and judged accordingly.

This too is exactly why I stated a few pages back (on more than one occasion), freedom of expression (or speech) is not freedom of consequence. People cite amendments without knowing really anything about them. The reason they're able to squeak by with pro-terrorism without getting tackled by any given authority figure is likely due to local governments not providing thorough education to said authorities. If they knew these amendments front-to-back, they could be administered properly. That's one way to get them to take action against this within the law.

The other option? Just put up giant billboards with a photo of a pro-Hamas (Palestine) rioter and caption it: beware! these are anti-Semites calling for the termination of all Jews and Israel, support terrorism and violate amending laws including the 1st. Put the billboards in a location where climbing up to vandalize them is nearly impossible to access.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Indoctrination camps.

 

[Happosai]

Indoctrination camps.

If they hung this up on the pole instead, it'd say something else.

 

[ManaByte]

Reminder that this is CA and some Pro-terrorism "charity" will have his bail paid by the afternoon.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[AJUMP23]

Thank you for clarifying. I now realize that genocidal chants are probably not specific enough, nor can be legally substantiated to incite imminent violence in most circumstances.

Edit: I noticed that you updated your post with an addition:



There must be some semblance of an idea of what hate speech could be, without having to ask a judge, that would be the basis for putting the matter before a judge in the first place. Sure, a judge makes the final call on whether Alec Baldwin's blunder falls under a damning legal definition; but either way, we know Alec Baldwin shot someone and that, guilty or not, certainly he was policed and nobody had a problem with that.

It should be noted that Congress' basis for censuring Rep. Tlaib was her reposting of a video with "from the river to the sea". With congress-members referencing it as hate speech in their remarks. Despite free speech (including hate speech) being protected under the first amendment and no judge having made a call on whether her example of hate speech was directly inciting or making specific threats, she still found herself rejected.

If you go back a few weeks to the Jewish kids who needed to be escorted out the back door of a library by police. You'd have a HARD TIME making the case that a threat of violence wasn't imminent. Otherwise, why did you need to sneak out with police? Surely, there must be some standard of offense that falls under a reasonable definition of "criminal hate speech" that would create expectation of action by police for further discernment by a judge. But I don't think anybody was arrested, they were allowed to act with impunity while the kids had to slither out the back door like Jews hiding from Nazis in 1940.

I think specific threats of "I am going to murder [specific person] or I am going to gut [specific person]" are actionable. But a general statement of death to all X or death to all Y are protected speech. I may not like it. People say "Kill Whitey" all the time, that is not considered hate speech. It is ignorant.

Congress has rules about decorum that govern its members public actions. But it also has a hidden fund to pay off people that threaten to sue members of congress and each party uses that fund to pay people off. Most of what you see in congress is for their base....they show a certain thing. But behind the scenes, they all work together to do stupid stuff to benefit themselves.

No person in congress should ever call for the eradication of any people, and that is what "From the river to the sea means" Kill the Jews. You also shouldn't want to kill all the Palestinians. But you should want to eradicate the radical terrorist.

 

[wa600]

Doesnt feel like there is going to be real peace from the palestinian side anytime in the future. Some Highlights:

How do you view the role of the following parties?
Al Kassam: Very positive 80.8% (Westbank) - 57.4% (Gaza)
Islamic Jihad: Very positive 70.1% (Westbank) - 45.5% (Gaza)
Hamas: Very positive 61.9% (Westbank) - 28.9% (Gaza)
Fatah: Very positive 4.3% (Westbank) - 0.7% (Gaza)

United States: Very negative 98.2% (Westbank) - 96.8% (Gaza)
Israel: Very negative 97.6% (Westbank) - 97.0% (Gaza)
UK: Very negative 97.4% (Westbank) - 93.1% (Gaza)
EU: Very negative 89.3% (Westbank) - 69.7% (Gaza)
UN: Very negative 83.9% (Westbank) - 48.4% (Gaza)
Fatah: Very negative 44.2% (Westbank) - 47.3% (Gaza)
Russia: Very negative 41.4% (Westbank) - 42.6% (Gaza)
Hamas: Very negative 5.6% (Westbank) - 22.7% (Gaza)
Islamic Jihad: Very negative 4.3% (Westbank) - 18.1% (Gaza)
Al Kassam: Very negative 2.8% (Westbank) - 13.7% (Gaza)


Do you support the solution of estabilishing one state or two states in the following formats?
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea: 77.7% (Westbank) - 70.4% (Gaza)
Two-state solution for two peoples: 13.3% (Westbank) - 22.7% (Gaza)
One-state solution for two peoples: 7.7% (Westbank) - 2.2% (Gaza)


On this day of the war, how much do you support a ceasefire that includes a mutual cessation of hostilities?
Very supportive: 84.7% (West Bank) - 79.8% (Gaza)


So they support a ceasefire, but at the same time, they are like 'the more extremist we behave, the better'. Would like to see a question on how much they support the release of the israeli hostages.

 

[ADiTAR]

They didn't predict it, as much as they knew it was going on.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Not sure if posted yet but it gave a good laugh earlier.

I don’t believe a second that any of the protestors really care. It’s just about being outraged foe the sake of being outraged.

 

[dottme]

Indoctrination camps.

is it even legal in the US? I think there’s some strong law about how you can show a flag and I’m pretty sure you need a US at least at the same height or higher.

 

[DeepEnigma]

is it even legal in the US? I think there’s some strong law about how you can show a flag and I’m pretty sure you need a US at least at the same height or higher.

The US Flag Code requires the US flag to be flown at federal institutions and public schools.

United States Flag Code

United States Flag Code decribing the proper handling, display and disposal of the flag of the United States of America

www.ushistory.org

1. The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.
2. The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
3. The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

is it even legal in the US? I think there’s some strong law about how you can show a flag and I’m pretty sure you need a US at least at the same height or higher.

It’s not an actual enforceable law, as disgraceful as this is.

 

[Havoc2049]

Great, but people should not need to die for them to be removed. It begs the question, what was this guy doing in the system to begin with?

He made a "mistake" and went too far with too direct an attack. His role was to help create an enviornment over the long game for it to be okay for other people to kill Jews. So long as professors keep themselves in check unlike this guy, they will be allowed to continue their agenda with wild abandon?

I agree. Hopefully the federal and state governments use the power of funding to get all these anti-American hate mongers out of our educational system. Not going to lie, probably not going to happen and if it does, the process will probably be slow, as the whole system is wrought with Marxist idiology. It's nice to see at least a few of these professors get fired and in this case get arrested.

 

[BlackTron]

I agree. Hopefully the federal and state governments use the power of funding to get all these anti-American hate mongers out of our educational system. Not going to lie, probably not going to happen and if it does, the process will probably be slow, as the whole system is wrought with Marxist idiology. It's nice to see at least a few of these professors get fired and in this case get arrested.

My thoughts exactly. These people shouldn't be forcibly removed by the Thought Police, but we should be reversing the course of events that got them there, and it largely comes down to the trail of money.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Pro-Palestinian protesters disrupt Pierre Poilievre's London rally

Up to 20 protesters demanding a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war were escorted out of a Pierre Poilievre rally Thursday night in London

lfpress.com

One of these days we might have a realization that we weren't that aware of security needs...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Pro-Palestinian protesters disrupt Pierre Poilievre's London rally

Up to 20 protesters demanding a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war were escorted out of a Pierre Poilievre rally Thursday night in London

lfpress.com

One of these days we might have a realization that we weren't that aware of security needs...

You give these elected punks too much credit of "innocent ignorance."

 

[Cyberpunkd]

 

[LordOfChaos]

You give these elected punks too much credit of "innocent ignorance."

Who knows about Trudy, but Pierre's called Hamas a terrorist death cult many times

 

[DeepEnigma]

Who knows about Trudy, but Pierre's called Hamas a terrorist death cult many times

There are just too many patterns in the western destabilization game. Those patterns and lockstep marching orders all being parroted by the same ideologies no matter the country. I do find irony in the very groups that were used to disrupt dinners of opponents, are now biting the hands that fed them.

 

[EviLore]

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

www.politico.com

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia​

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

The Education Department on Thursday announced a new list of K-12 schools and colleges they’re investigating because of reported incidents of antisemitism and Islamophobia.

Seven schools are under investigation as of Nov. 16: Lafayette College, Cornell University, Columbia University, Wellesley College, University of Pennsylvania, The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art and Kansas’ Maize Unified School District. Five of the complaints allege antisemitic harassment and two allege anti-Muslim harassment.

The investigations come as leaders of prominent Jewish organizations urged Biden administration officials to take an aggressive, proactive approach to addressing the incidents that have roiled college campuses since the Hamas attacks on Israel in October. Students have expressed being afraid to go to class for fear of harassment, and some schools have had incidents of physical violence.


“When students are targeted because they are — or are perceived to be — Jewish, Muslim, Arab, Sikh or any other ethnicity or shared ancestry, schools must act to ensure safe and inclusive educational environments where everyone is free to learn,” Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said in a statement Thursday evening. “These investigations underscore how seriously the Biden-Harris Administration, including the U.S. Department of Education, takes our responsibility to protect students from hatred and discrimination.”

Biden administration officials have spent weeks meeting with Jewish and Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders who say their communities have been feeling an unprecedented level of anxiety since the attacks. The Education Department this week said Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders described an “extremely disturbing pattern of hate and threats of violence in schools and college campuses.”

The Education Department said it would continue updating its list of investigations weekly on the website for its Office for Civil Rights. However, Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights Catherine Lhamon cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

All schools that receive federal funds must comply with Title VI, a federal law that bars discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. Schools who violate the law could be at risk of losing their federal funding if they do not comply.

 

[ADiTAR]

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

www.politico.com

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia​

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

The Education Department on Thursday announced a new list of K-12 schools and colleges they’re investigating because of reported incidents of antisemitism and Islamophobia.

Seven schools are under investigation as of Nov. 16: Lafayette College, Cornell University, Columbia University, Wellesley College, University of Pennsylvania, The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art and Kansas’ Maize Unified School District. Five of the complaints allege antisemitic harassment and two allege anti-Muslim harassment.

The investigations come as leaders of prominent Jewish organizations urged Biden administration officials to take an aggressive, proactive approach to addressing the incidents that have roiled college campuses since the Hamas attacks on Israel in October. Students have expressed being afraid to go to class for fear of harassment, and some schools have had incidents of physical violence.


“When students are targeted because they are — or are perceived to be — Jewish, Muslim, Arab, Sikh or any other ethnicity or shared ancestry, schools must act to ensure safe and inclusive educational environments where everyone is free to learn,” Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said in a statement Thursday evening. “These investigations underscore how seriously the Biden-Harris Administration, including the U.S. Department of Education, takes our responsibility to protect students from hatred and discrimination.”

Biden administration officials have spent weeks meeting with Jewish and Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders who say their communities have been feeling an unprecedented level of anxiety since the attacks. The Education Department this week said Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders described an “extremely disturbing pattern of hate and threats of violence in schools and college campuses.”

The Education Department said it would continue updating its list of investigations weekly on the website for its Office for Civil Rights. However, Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights Catherine Lhamon cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

All schools that receive federal funds must comply with Title VI, a federal law that bars discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. Schools who violate the law could be at risk of losing their federal funding if they do not comply.

Ah yes, those Islamophobes...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

www.politico.com

Cornell and Columbia among 7 schools under scrutiny for antisemitism, Islamophobia​

The assistant secretary for civil rights at the Education Department cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

The Education Department on Thursday announced a new list of K-12 schools and colleges they’re investigating because of reported incidents of antisemitism and Islamophobia.

Seven schools are under investigation as of Nov. 16: Lafayette College, Cornell University, Columbia University, Wellesley College, University of Pennsylvania, The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art and Kansas’ Maize Unified School District. Five of the complaints allege antisemitic harassment and two allege anti-Muslim harassment.

The investigations come as leaders of prominent Jewish organizations urged Biden administration officials to take an aggressive, proactive approach to addressing the incidents that have roiled college campuses since the Hamas attacks on Israel in October. Students have expressed being afraid to go to class for fear of harassment, and some schools have had incidents of physical violence.


“When students are targeted because they are — or are perceived to be — Jewish, Muslim, Arab, Sikh or any other ethnicity or shared ancestry, schools must act to ensure safe and inclusive educational environments where everyone is free to learn,” Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said in a statement Thursday evening. “These investigations underscore how seriously the Biden-Harris Administration, including the U.S. Department of Education, takes our responsibility to protect students from hatred and discrimination.”

Biden administration officials have spent weeks meeting with Jewish and Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders who say their communities have been feeling an unprecedented level of anxiety since the attacks. The Education Department this week said Muslim, Arab and Sikh leaders described an “extremely disturbing pattern of hate and threats of violence in schools and college campuses.”

The Education Department said it would continue updating its list of investigations weekly on the website for its Office for Civil Rights. However, Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights Catherine Lhamon cautioned that just because a school is under investigation “does not reflect a conclusion that the law has been violated.”

All schools that receive federal funds must comply with Title VI, a federal law that bars discrimination based on shared ancestry, ethnic characteristics or national origin. Schools who violate the law could be at risk of losing their federal funding if they do not comply.

You just can't make this shit up. Himmler and Goebbels approves of these narrative tactics.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

It is hilarious how islamists are fit that nicely with leftists with their victim card.

 

[jason10mm]

I think specific threats of "I am going to murder [specific person] or I am going to gut [specific person]" are actionable. But a general statement of death to all X or death to all Y are protected speech. I may not like it. People say "Kill Whitey" all the time, that is not considered hate speech. It is ignorant.

ehhh, don't know about that. If a bunch of POCs were marching down the street, yelling "Kill Whitey!" and then, you know, every whitey they come across happens to get beaten up, I think the link to the phrase and the actions it is causing is pretty clear. In fact, other than "Kill Whitey", I'm not sure there is ANY permutation of that phrase that is socially acceptable to say (other than "pro-choice" of course). When you are King of the Oppression Hill everyone is out to get you I guess.

I think any Jew should have free license to smoke anyone walking around them saying "From the River to the Sea!" because that phrase now means "death to jews" and there are examples of it in action. Expecting "society"/the police to somehow step up and put an end to this is woefully optimistic, people gotta be empowered to defend themselves and I suspect just a few cases of hostile loudmouth antisemites getting a dirt nap will cool down the rest of the bunch. Schools could have ended this weeks ago if they just expelled any student participating in pro-Hamas nonsense. But let it fester....and here we are.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

I just saw some guy from the UN saying "if we can't stop the conflict between Israel and Palestine what is the point of the UN". The war in Ukraine is going to enter it's 3rd year and at no point have I heard the UN question it;s existence due to the inability to stop that conflict. I wonder what the difference is ?

 

[DeepEnigma]

I just saw some guy from the UN saying "if we can't stop the conflict between Israel and Palestine what is the point of the UN". The war in Ukraine is going to enter it's 3rd year and at no point have I heard the UN question it;s existence due to the inability to stop that conflict. I wonder what the difference is ?

 

[FunkMiller]

I just saw some guy from the UN saying "if we can't stop the conflict between Israel and Palestine what is the point of the UN". The war in Ukraine is going to enter its 3rd year and at no point have I heard the UN question it;s existence due to the inability to stop that conflict. I wonder what the difference is ?

If those fucking idiots understood they’re both part of the same war, we might actually get somewhere.

 

[winjer]

 

[tygertrip]

Hopefully 100% end up dead.

 

[tygertrip]

At the same time, hate speech is illegal. What defines hate speech? Apparently, that depends on the present majority, the group it's directed at, or the mood of the police.

“Hate speech” is legal in the USA.

 

[Wildebeest]

I just saw some guy from the UN saying "if we can't stop the conflict between Israel and Palestine what is the point of the UN". The war in Ukraine is going to enter it's 3rd year and at no point have I heard the UN question it;s existence due to the inability to stop that conflict. I wonder what the difference is ?

The gravy train is going off the rails, boys, all hands to battle stations.

 

[Happosai]

I just saw some guy from the UN saying "if we can't stop the conflict between Israel and Palestine what is the point of the UN". The war in Ukraine is going to enter it's 3rd year and at no point have I heard the UN question it;s existence due to the inability to stop that conflict. I wonder what the difference is ?

Just a thought. U.N. has really been good for nothing to Israel long before this. Israel didn't offer all these peace solutions with Gaza or the West Bank because it was in the interest of Israeli Jews. Israel was pressured by Western nations (particularly from continuous petitions in the U.N.) to make peace and offer 2-state solutions. Israel was jammed in a corner and if you start only from the year 2000 till the 7th of October; palestine (the state that doesn't even exist) not only rejected solutions but has been firing missiles into Israel on more than one occasion prior to the events of the 7th.

Ukraine & Russia is low risk for the U.N. to back. There aren't very many large investments they need to worry about losing should things not turn out right. Fortunately, there has (and still is if I remember) support going to the Ukraine as Russia shouldn't be trusted for anything.

With Israel, they aren't getting multi-trillion dollar fossil fuel gigs from them. Israel could easily support itself without the help the U.N. and has been. For that reason, the U.N. knows good and well that they don't want to step down too hard on the Gaza / Hamas roach as it's carrying eggs from Iran. Those are fossil fuel eggs. The U.N. also knows that Jews don't control the Middle Eastern oil monopoly. Arabic muslim countries do (Saudia Arabia being one of the biggest). Protecting the enemy, they're protect their investments.

Or TL;DR...see DeepEnigma's GIF

 

[Boozeroony]

Sam Harris just released a podcast with Yuval Noah Harari. Lot's of good takes from both guys. A treat to listen to, as usual.

 

[VengefulValkyrie]

No more, actually far less, than the United States as well as other Israeli allies have been funding tens of billions to several Islamic nations who have been on record for decades saying they want to wipe Israel and the Jewish people off the map.

Hell, Bidenomics just handed over Hamas handlers, Iran, another $10b+ check today.

Direct your ignorance there and ask them why they continue to support terrorist regimes, especially in wartime. A time where crosshairs of those nations are on Israel.

First off, pull your head out of your sensitive ass, and get off Israel's nuts. I asked a simple yes or no, somehow that has you triggered. If you can't even answer a question without insulting someone, you need help mentally. You have been all through this thread bitching at any criticism directed towards that's country/ Move the fuck on.

 

[DrKeo]

Doesnt feel like there is going to be real peace from the palestinian side anytime in the future. Some Highlights:

How do you view the role of the following parties?
Al Kassam: Very positive 80.8% (Westbank) - 57.4% (Gaza)
Islamic Jihad: Very positive 70.1% (Westbank) - 45.5% (Gaza)
Hamas: Very positive 61.9% (Westbank) - 28.9% (Gaza)
Fatah: Very positive 4.3% (Westbank) - 0.7% (Gaza)

United States: Very negative 98.2% (Westbank) - 96.8% (Gaza)
Israel: Very negative 97.6% (Westbank) - 97.0% (Gaza)
UK: Very negative 97.4% (Westbank) - 93.1% (Gaza)
EU: Very negative 89.3% (Westbank) - 69.7% (Gaza)
UN: Very negative 83.9% (Westbank) - 48.4% (Gaza)
Fatah: Very negative 44.2% (Westbank) - 47.3% (Gaza)
Russia: Very negative 41.4% (Westbank) - 42.6% (Gaza)
Hamas: Very negative 5.6% (Westbank) - 22.7% (Gaza)
Islamic Jihad: Very negative 4.3% (Westbank) - 18.1% (Gaza)
Al Kassam: Very negative 2.8% (Westbank) - 13.7% (Gaza)


Do you support the solution of estabilishing one state or two states in the following formats?
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea: 77.7% (Westbank) - 70.4% (Gaza)
Two-state solution for two peoples: 13.3% (Westbank) - 22.7% (Gaza)
One-state solution for two peoples: 7.7% (Westbank) - 2.2% (Gaza)


On this day of the war, how much do you support a ceasefire that includes a mutual cessation of hostilities?
Very supportive: 84.7% (West Bank) - 79.8% (Gaza)


So they support a ceasefire, but at the same time, they are like 'the more extremist we behave, the better'. Would like to see a question on how much they support the release of the israeli hostages.

It's interesting to see how Hamas has less support in Gaza than the West Bank. Especially encouraging to see much lower support for Al Kassam. And considering these people live under Al Kassam's fist, I'm assuming the real numbers are even better.

 

[Happosai]

First off, pull your head out of your sensitive ass, and get off Israel's nuts. I asked a simple yes or no, somehow that has you triggered. If you can't even answer a question without insulting someone, you need help mentally. You have been all through this thread bitching at any criticism directed towards that's country/ Move the fuck on.

DeepEnigma had he made it to post 13 of that sleeper account, could've posted:
Yes.
Yes, you're an idiot.
A vengeful idiot, but nonetheless...an idiot.

 

[SubZero_Wins]

First off, pull your head out of your sensitive ass, and get off Israel's nuts. I asked a simple yes or no, somehow that has you triggered. If you can't even answer a question without insulting someone, you need help mentally. You have been all through this thread bitching at any criticism directed towards that's country/ Move the fuck on.

Go back to the purple forum, They miss their village idiot.

 

[ADiTAR]

 

[Faust]

First off, pull your head out of your sensitive ass, and get off Israel's nuts. I asked a simple yes or no, somehow that has you triggered. If you can't even answer a question without insulting someone, you need help mentally. You have been all through this thread bitching at any criticism directed towards that's country/ Move the fuck on.

This, folks, is a classic case of projection. See the mental gymnastics on display and the show of emotion devoid of logic or actual counter arguments.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Why they are constantly shouting "allahu akbar"?

 

[CharmingCharlie]

Why they are constantly shouting "allahu akbar"?

wait ............ they were shouting "allahu akbar" ......... shit I thought they were shouting "admiral ackbar" just put it down to those fuckers being starwars fans too. I believe it is arabic for Allah is great or some fucked up shit like that.

 

[Happosai]

Why they are constantly shouting "allahu akbar"?

Long answer:
Islamic maniacs believe by chanting 'allahu akbar' they're saying 'allah is great (doesn't translate to God, translates to Allah which is their moon god). Why do they shout it every time there's danger, they commit acts of terrorism or feelin' brave?
It's a works religion. They feel they're doing something valiant for allah which will move them up a notch toward their personal harem provided their judgement process after death goes well.
Why say this in relation to pro-Palestine rioting, Hamas praising and other filth?
Islam is like a giant disease festering colon. From that colon came jihad or in more 'established' muslim nations sharia. So jihads and sharia law is mixed with quran is the turd. It's a fresh turd since it's only been around since the 7th century and still moving like it was freshly pinched. Therefore, it has turd fumes. The turd fumes spawned muslim brotherhood which farted into Hamas (although they claim to be separate). This is religion...so like many religions, all are one. So the colon (Islam) stays level with the curvy turd fumes (Hamas). People are going to say 'allahu akbar' because you have to appease all parts of that fecal religious process.

Short answer:
They're religious idiots.
(e.g. -- they shouted this during the attacks on the 7th & also revealed from the FDR tapes from flights United 175 & AA flight 11 after being hijacked)