You try and list every yearly MLB game today, a million Singstars or remakes in the same way and you'd be told those don't count. This was beyond the entire gen too, the sports titles that were releasing when the next gen PS4 was already out are listed up to 2015. You're going to have a big list like this when the PS5 has a decade too of published games.
*This is a list of Sony Published games ( exclusives at the time ) for PS3, not all games are first party studios.
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Has the PS5 already cemented itself as the worst Playstation generation in history?
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
$700 for a marginally stronger piece of hardware, instantly torpedoed by PSSR. Software solutions to weak hardware problems like this are becoming an absolute blight, and that's assuming they actually work right (which PSSR frequently doesn't). Plus the fan noise is terrible if you lose the fan lottery, and the build quality is worse than the original.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
PSSR looks great in most games, all games look better on PS5 Pro, some are transformational and it’s still early days
being $250 more expensive than the base unit doesn’t make it bad hardware
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It does when the tech often doesn't work properly and what you're paying for is more of a software solution than a hardware one. If I'm shelling out that kind of extra money, I need to be getting steak, not steak sauce. "Early days" cannot be an excuse for it. Games are getting patched to remove that core feature of the system in some cases. That's absurd.
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Hoho for breakfast
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The only real options are PS3 and PS5 and I'd say maybe so far yes PS5 is the worst but I don't think it will end up that way. I think it'll be PS3 then PS5. It'll depend on what comes out over the next couple years or however long this generation is going to be. I'm honestly hoping PS5 gets Fable and if that happens I don't think I'd end up calling it the worst along with everything yet to release.
PS3 I think had Uncharted, Infamous, Journey, Demon's Souls...PS5 hasn't had anything on that level yet imo. Astro Bot is better than LittleBigPlanet though.
PS3 I think had Uncharted, Infamous, Journey, Demon's Souls...PS5 hasn't had anything on that level yet imo. Astro Bot is better than LittleBigPlanet though.
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James Sawyer Ford
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The tech works properly, and if it doesn’t, that’s a third party issue with individual teams
Lokaum D+
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it looks so great that they rolled back to TSR in SH2 Remake, but what i m saying, no one has more than one console and PSSR is better than DLSS.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
That’s a developer issue, not quality checking their own product and using the latest PSSR versions
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
The point is that if it's a better system, I should be getting better performance across the board. I'm not, even if some games perform very well. But what I never thought I'd see from an *upgrade* is worse performance in some games, but that's what happens when you rely on software gimmickry instead of actual raw horsepower. Which is why I have such an issue with the laughable price tag.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
You are. SH2 performs better then it does on PS5
EruditeHobo
Member
This is wrong... the focus on "exclusivity" here remains way, way overblown. It's a relic of the past, it's far less relevant than it's ever been to console gaming.
Ecosystem is the new exclusive. That's why so many people (perhaps not rabid hobbyists, like on this board) are buying and happy with their PS5s. And it's why PS3 is getting the votes it does on this poll. PS5 ecosystem is very impressive, and offers pretty good value.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
You like Playstation games. They like Playstation Sales Figures.
Remember Bo_Hazam? He literally didnt care about the games. He said he only cared about the Sony brand. That's what you are seeing here.
The PS3 era is where Sony first party truly came alive. Before the PS3 era, they had just Jak and Daxter, Ratchet, Twisted Metal, a couple of Team Ico games and GOW. The rest were all third party moneyhats that went away as soon as Playstation stumbled. It was then when Sony started investing in studios cultivating them with new IPs like Motorstorm, Warhawk, Uncharted, Infamous, Resistance, TLOU, and yes, KZ2. A game that got a sequel even though the first one bombed, both commercially and critically. But they stuck with it and it literally saved the PS3 from all the bad press E3 2005 and the Cell had generated. It showed people that the cell was indeed a beast and Sony wasn't going to go down without a fight.
But it sold only 250k units in the first month while Halo and Gears were selling 3 and 2 million respectively. So sales fans dismissed games like Infamous and KZ2.
Zacfoldor
Member
Honestly if you don't consider the money it's a big upgrade. You would take it for free. Guaranteed.
Would you not take it for free? Wanna argue that?
If you would take it for free, all we are arguing about is the price.
The relatively minor price difference of a couple hundred dollars is completely irrelevant on a device you will play for years and years unless money is a huge factor. For those that 200 dollars makes a big difference, how are they buying vanilla PS5 and the 70 dollar games? I do feel for anyone who is not able to afford. But for the grace of God go I. However, it doesn't make sense that everyone complaining about is due to lack of money, but rather hatred of Sony for a myriad of reasons or just a general hatred of everything good. Because the PS5 Pro is good, my brother. It's very good, and in this case I will keep believing my lying eyes.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Honestly if you don't consider the money it's a big upgrade. You would take it for free. Guaranteed.
Would you not take it for free? Wanna argue that?
If you would take it for free, all we are arguing about is the price.
The relatively minor price difference of a couple hundred dollars is completely irrelevant on a device you will play for years and years unless money is a huge factor. For those that 200 dollars makes a big difference, how are they buying vanilla PS5 and the 70 dollar games? I do feel for anyone who is not able to afford. But for the grace of God go I. However, it doesn't make sense that everyone complaining about is due to lack of money, but rather hatred of Sony for a myriad of reasons or just a general hatred of everything good. Because the PS5 Pro is good, my brother. It's very good, and in this case I will keep believing my lying eyes.
I genuinely would not for many games.
I don't actually care about the money, it's the principle.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Impossible. The Nintendo business model works ONLY if those games are exclusive. If Nintendo games were on PC or other consoles, the brand would become irrelevant in less than a decade.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Got to say, the poll results are shocking. I thought the PS5 would get at least 90%.
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
Wtf are you doing?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The elder statesmen of GAF have spoken.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
It at least had an amazing Killzone. I think that alone puts it over the PS5.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Objectively? I don't think that means what you think it means.
You think more people care about how much money Sony made over how much they enjoyed the games out on either console?
Insane Metal
Member
Yeah. It's been downhill since the PS3.
Hypereides
Member
They had some good and decent stuff coming from Europe as well. Ghosthunter, Getaway games, Primal... the titles you mentioned might've had the most spotlight and media attention, but don't neglect the other regions' output as well. Sony's release stream had a lot of variety back then. The Sony of today is almost unrecognizable on that part.
Btw, the factoid that the original Killzone wasn't a super hit makes it the more ironic how Hulst gets to call the shots on what gets a sequel and what doesn't.
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Not sure what you're laughing at
Bojji
Look below
Meanwhile him 3-4 years after PS3 release, read the bolded:
Bojji
Look below
Meanwhile him 3-4 years after PS3 release, read the bolded:
But yes "amazing library and wealth of new IP" that he completely ignored at the time.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So we judging which generation was the greatest by the dollar amount spent?
Kokoro2020
Member
The PS3 was a really good console. But when you compare it to the rest, it just falls slightly short, IMO. Just because people say it's the "worst" doesn't necessarily mean they are saying it's bad.
As for the Vita, I've never played it. I do have a PSP though, which was also an underrated console.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I think that’s the only way to objectively measure collective enjoyment
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
So we judging which generation was the greatest by the dollar amount spent?
We could also measure it by how many old boomers are yelling at clouds instead
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Then you're in that select category of users that
SlimySnake
mentioned in his post earlier on this page.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Then you're in that select category of users that
I care about games, I’m certainly not lacking any on my ps5, they all load super fast and run at 60 fps.
Feel spoiled with how good this gen is
SlimySnake
cares more about labels and “next gen” than he does about games
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Who is yelling at anything?
I thought this thread was an opinion piece on which generation we thought was the worst and it delved into "but yeah the PS5 earned so much more money thus it has to be better"
Maybe the old boomers are just straight up smarter and have made it this long on Earth for a reason
PeteBull
Member
Only redeeming quality of this gen's playstation is- 0 competition, nintendo is literally 5 years late to the party and even then their hardware is roughly on the lvl of 12yo ps4, microsoft trying their best to cosplay as undertaker to take their console business to the grave, prices for mid and high lvls of pc gpus skyrocketed to hell and back.
If u put ps5/ps5pr0 vs any previous gens playstations, including ps3, with its line up and amount high quality true exclusive games, it would flop hard
If u put ps5/ps5pr0 vs any previous gens playstations, including ps3, with its line up and amount high quality true exclusive games, it would flop hard
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James Sawyer Ford
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Oh ya. Bo was the biggest Sony pimp on this board. I remember him pasting pics telling everyone his Sony TV and AV equipment. If Sony makes electric can openers and doorbells, he’d probably have those too. Lol
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
“Remember, when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only painful for others.
The same applies when you are stupid.”
― Ricky Gervais
Bumblebeetuna
Member
You’re trying for some gotcha but you didn’t bother to check the context of the thread you’re quoting, it’s specifically about multiplayer shooters. You might not know this, but some of the best PS3 exclusives were in fact NOT multiplayer shooters. Motorstorm, Last of Us (amazing SP, even better MP), Uncharted, infamous, GoW3, Twisted Metal, etc).
Adorable.
Kokoro2020
Member
I mean, I'm an old-school gamer myself, yet the PS5 is my favorite.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Not sure what you're laughing at
Look below
Meanwhile him 3-4 years after PS3 release, read the bolded:
But yes "amazing library and wealth of new IP" that he completely ignored at the time.
Yeah its insane lol. My PSV gets so little play, its almost all PC these days.. Reminds me of my Xbox One...
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I care about games, I’m certainly not lacking any on my ps5, they all load super fast and run at 60 fps.
Feel spoiled with how good this gen is
If they never made another game for the rest of time, I still wouldn't run out of games to play...
Good try, I would have believed you if you weren't constantly shitting on said games at the time.
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Not sure what you're laughing at
Look below
Meanwhile him 3-4 years after PS3 release, read the bolded:
But yes "amazing library and wealth of new IP" that he completely ignored at the time.
Cold-blooded...
But this is reality of revisionist history. No time will ever be worse than now except for the future, which will always be worse as it relates to making an argument against something you don't like
Dude, you're actually on fire right now...
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James Sawyer Ford
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