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[Magic Carpet]

Since you consider it a better feature than exclusives, I'm assuming that must mean you've been a big Xbox guy for all these years, right?

Like I said earlier, those who rank the PS3 higher than the PS5 are those who only played on PS3 at that time.
I had Xbox and PC to also compare and the PS3 was not the place to be during those years. PS3 was the worst gen for playstation.
Compare that to NOW and PS5 is a much better place to be than xbox and arguably PC (expensive).

 

[kaizenkko]

PS4 has more unique new IPs. PS5 list is mostly sequels and had a PS4 version too.

Only three games have a PS4 version. But I can't understand why this is bad. Capcom is praised and the only new gen game game they have launched so far is Dragon's Dogma 2.

I think it's fair complain about the future of the PS5 line-up, cause they seems to be fucking things up, but until now Sony has been consistent, at least.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

It's more of a "western gaming in general is dead" story to me, and the only thing that makes PS5's stewards somewhat directly culpable is their increasing focus on trash western studios & themes.

If the future of Sony is studios like Naughty Dog & Insomniac... yeah I think I simply don't care what happens to them.

 

[Pagusas]

Hmmm, PS3 was easily the worst gen to me, with PS1 being the best followed closely by 2 PS4 and 5 have been average at best, not as bad as 3, but just feel kinda empty and samey. PC really has been the place to be for a long time now.

 

[JayK47]

It is for me. I have not even purchased the PS5 yet. I still have the first 4 consoles and 2 through 4 are still hooked up and ready to play.

I think it is the ugliest of the 5. I was hoping the slim would have changed the look like previous generations, but it looks almost exactly the same as the base model. Also the least amount of exclusives, which traditionally set PS apart from the competition. The exclusives tend to eventually move to PC, if I would even want to play them, which in most cases I do not. The amount and quality of the exclusives are shit. Call it what you want, woke, DEI, modern audiences, etc, Sony has embraced it and their exclusives are full of it. I'm not paying for that shit.

 

[Topher]

Like I said earlier, those who rank the PS3 higher than the PS5 are those who only played on PS3 at that time.
I had Xbox and PC to also compare and the PS3 was not the place to be during those years. PS3 was the worst gen for playstation.
Compare that to NOW and PS5 is a much better place to be than xbox and arguably PC (expensive).

Opinions, but I enjoyed Sony first party a heck of a lot more with PS3 than PS5. Not even close really. For me, that's the defining aspect of a PlayStation console as it is the primary reason I ever buy a PlayStation.

 

[Spyxos]

Pretty much. Ps5 itself was okish, but the Ps5 Pro launch was and still is a total disaster. Everything positive that Sony has built up for me with ps4 is gone with ps5 pro at the latest.

 

[BlackTron]

and objectively your opinion is an outlier versus the public

Dollar spend and unit sales are much higher for ps5 than ps3

You could have exactly the same console and game sales, and the newer platform would have more dollar spend due to inflation and microtransactions. That alone isn't proof of "the people speaking" their opinion. Maybe if it was two platforms out at the same time compared in the marketplace. But not PS3 vs PS5 using dollars.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

You could have exactly the same console and game sales, and the newer platform would have more dollar spend due to inflation and microtransactions. That alone isn't proof of "the people speaking" their opinion. Maybe if it was two platforms out at the same time compared in the marketplace. But not PS3 vs PS5 using dollars.

My comment was already adjusting for inflation.

 

[nani17]

I agree this has to be one of the worst generation overall so far

 

[Firestorm ZERO]

I was a PS fanboy since launch. Owned every console and portable generation. I stopped being a fanboy halfway through PS4 generation. Still don't have a PS5 and have no intention to buy one. The only game I want to play is Stellar Blade so will buy that once it launches on PC.

 

[TMLT]

Like I said earlier, those who rank the PS3 higher than the PS5 are those who only played on PS3 at that time.
I had Xbox and PC to also compare and the PS3 was not the place to be during those years.

From 2009 onwards opinion was very sharply divided on which was better between the 360 and the PS3. To say a console that was the exclusive home to stuff like Uncharted, TLOU, LBP, God Of War, MGS4, Killzone, Infamous, Demons Souls etc was "not the place to be" seems pretty harsh. Not having a PS3 in that era meant missing out on some of the biggest and most acclaimed games of the generation.

Compare that to NOW and PS5 is a much better place to be than xbox and arguably PC (expensive).

Thats purely because Xbox is in a much worse place now than it was back then. The 7th gen was a golden era with 3 great consoles all competing at once.

 

[Pedro Motta]

While it's fair to say this is the worst Playstation generation, I believe it's because there is no suitable competitor. Made them go soft.

 

[Three]

I'm seeing a lot of these guys suddenly saying the PS3 generation was the best. Talk about rewriting history.

It was probably only the best to for them because it was the only generation when Xbox had a fighting chance and didn't get absolutely destroyed.

As if the "PS3 has no games" meme didn’t exist and PS3 wasn't getting constantly ridiculed right up until 2011. Now apparently it had all the games and was the best ever. Some of them are xbox fans trying to appeal to the PS fans with their new talking points that rewrite history. Same shit when Driveclub or The Order came out and they were shitting on it for being a sterile corridor racer that's not open world or cinematic short crap. Now it's in their lists of the 'amazing' that Sony used to be.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'm seeing a lot of these guys suddenly saying the PS3 generation was the best. Talk about rewriting history.

It was probably only the best to for them because it was the only generation when Xbox had a fighting chance and didn't get absolutely destroyed.



And none of those games managed to significantly move the needle or were defined as the generations must have games at the time.

Were you even on this forum at the time? Most of those games got destroyed in terms of their reception. Particularly the likes of the first motorstorm (didn't live up to the tech demo) and heavenly sword. Demons Souls went largely unnoticed for years after it's initial release, there's a reason it was a cult classic.

It's like you forget that all of that stuff was competing against stuff like gears of war, halo, TES Oblivion, bioshock, mass effect, PGR, fable, peak Forza, Lost Planet etc. Then there was the added bonus of the fact that the vast majority of 3rd party games ran really poorly (along with the fact that even most of those 1st party games you listed ran poorly), which just further compounded matters.

So sorry sir, you seem to just be going back and looking at a list, but the context of what was actually happening at the time is important.

The PS3 almost wiped Sony from existence, I don't know who some of you are trying to kid.

Out of all the posters, who said PS3 is the best generation ever? Pretty hyperbolic. In the poll, it's a clear second place for worst system. Skimming the posts people are just talking about the huge variety in new IP Sony made back then vs now. And that doesnt even include all the small scale and Move games, which technically can go on top of it. Sony sure doesnt make a lot of small games or VR2 games this gen that's for sure. And their big SP game are mostly sequels, come out sparsely and are practically all cross gen anyway. For anyone who posted their ranking, how many people ranked PS3 at #1? Most people I think posted PS2. And them from their the rest are a toss up with PS5 often near the bottom or last.

 

[peish]

I think it is ps5, so much remakes and waiting.

I dont think there is a memorable period which it exists. I forgot it launched in 2020!

 

[RoboFu]

You can still be great and have a worse comparable console hierarchy.

 

[Klik]

4 year into this gen,there is no game that actually feels like next gen.

Waiting for PS6 and probably 70-80$ games

 

[Jakk]

Like I said earlier, those who rank the PS3 higher than the PS5 are those who only played on PS3 at that time.
I had Xbox and PC to also compare and the PS3 was not the place to be during those years. PS3 was the worst gen for playstation.
Compare that to NOW and PS5 is a much better place to be than xbox and arguably PC (expensive).

Based on what? I always played on both PC and PS and I think PS3 generation was better, at least so far. Looking at the second half of PS3 and what's scheduled for PS5, I doubt it's going to change.

PS5 is a better piece of hardware for playing games than PS3 was at the time, but what does it matter when the games are lacking.

 

[Radical_3d]

You can still be great and have a worse comparable console hierarchy.

Yeah… but that’s not the case here. It’s been a dreadful generation on the big production side of things. There’s been times like that before but then you could always find shelter in the kind arms of one of the big three. Many times in Sony’s. Not anymore. I’m personally taking cover on Civ VII and wait until the fallout has gone.

 

[Shakka43]

PS3 was the worst..

If worse means best then yes

 

[Magic Carpet]

Based on what? I always played on both PC and PS and I think PS3 generation was better, at least so far. Looking at the second half of PS3 and what's scheduled for PS5, I doubt it's going to change.

PS5 is a better piece of hardware for playing games than PS3 was at the time, but what does it matter when the games are lacking.

But I played those second half games on the PS4. It skewed my perception of the Sony generations.
PS3 was so bad to me that I skipped even this great second half everyone talks about.

Edit-Did everyone forget that playing Uncharted you had to use the shoulder buttons to shoot? The triggers on the PS3 were so bad they remapped the buttons.
The Uncharted remakes put the triggers back on actual triggers where a good console generation belongs.

 

[apocaliptic]

I still consider PS3 the best era for Playstation. We got some great games during PS3. Resistance, Killzone 2, Uncharted, The last of Us. Multiplatform games as BF Bad Company, BF3 and so many more. It was the generation that got me into multiplayer

 

[nial]

Has the PS5 already cemented itself as the worst Playstation generation in history?

Please don't bring logic here, we should hate Sony only !!! Lol At least he making good points....not the victim card and blaming fanboys. Is ok to have a different opinion and don't blame fanboys, because fanboys are everywhere, don't take personally the poll mate. Pretty much most of...

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Nioh

Actually not Sony, published by Koei Tecmo with Sony localizing it for the West. Different from say, Rise of the Ronin, which is actually a WWS production published by Sony everywhere.

 

[HogIsland]

It's a good system with weak software.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

PS5 gen is a little dull, and the Pro is an embarrassingly bad piece of hardware - legitimately one of the worst consoles I've ever owned. But the games are good, even if it's all remasters and multiplatform stuff. It's fortunate for the PS5 that so many games on PC have stuttering issues or are just bad ports (in the case of JP devs), because otherwise, I'd agree that it's an utterly useless platform.

But the PS3? The Playstation 3 was an absolute travesty. Quite possibly the worst software lineup of any major console. The games were bad, and they ran like shit. Nobody was ready to do HD visuals at that point in time, so games were a technical mess at the same time that they were dead set on everything trying to be bigger and more open-world... which the PS3 also couldn't handle. I'm so glad we're past that era.

 

[tmlDan]

Recency bias in this thread is fkn hilarious, its PS3 hands down. It almost ended the entire brand.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Pro is an embarrassingly bad piece of hardware - legitimately one of the worst consoles I've ever owned.

How? It’s just a better ps5

 

[welshrat]

Nope. Love it. Honestly the underpowered CPU in 4 drove me back to PC as I couldn't stand the low fps. Being able to play those games at 60fps is good enough for me this gen..

Pro has made it better again for me.

 

[Lokaum D+]

PS3 was the worst..

*This is a list of Sony Published games ( exclusives at the time ) for PS3, not all games are first party studios.

 

[MagnesD3]

Like I said earlier, those who rank the PS3 higher than the PS5 are those who only played on PS3 at that time.
I had Xbox and PC to also compare and the PS3 was not the place to be during those years. PS3 was the worst gen for playstation.
Compare that to NOW and PS5 is a much better place to be than xbox and arguably PC (expensive).

Xbox 360 was winning until the end when the PS3 had caught up to where the line was blurred. But were comparing Sony to itself not others. The Ps3 gave people access to a cheaper Blu Ray, it had free online, it started the Resistance, Uncharted, Infamous, Little Big Planet and SOULS IP. It arguably has the best God of War game, it has quantum dreams best game with Heavy Rain. The Ps5 has Returnal and Astro Bot. The only cons I can think of for PS3 where its dumb beginning price and its slow start but hell even then it started with Resistance Fall of Man and MGS4 . Also never forget the amount of PS1/PS2 classics for that thing.

 

[Radical_3d]

Woah! F1 2006. I didn’t remember that shit. Made by Liverpool Studio before WipEout HD. Now it won’t look like it but it was a technical marvel of its time. Fuck Sony for closing Liverpool.

 

[tmlDan]

*This is a list of Sony Published games ( exclusives at the time ) for PS3, not all games are first party studios.

so why did they almost end the brand? explain why this matters lol

 

[Banjo64]

The PS3 aged like a fine wine. The PS5 has aged like milk in the sun. Have some shame PS3 deniers.

 

[Lokaum D+]

so why did they almost end the brand? explain why this matters lol

? who or what almost ended the brand ? if you are talking about the ps3 they were selling the console on almost U$300 loss, two years into the console life cycle Sony reported a loss of U$3.3bi due selling at loss, there were also poor management back in the day and the fact the the processor ( CELL ) was way more difficult to program than the one in X360, and imo even if this almost ended the brand, it also made Sony the behemoth that they are today on console gaming.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

That's not me, bro.

I thought you wanted to know Analog's list.

 

[Magic Carpet]

But were comparing Sony to itself not others

Yes, I see that you and many others are comparing only exclusives. I'm not, I think a console generation that plays 3rd party games worse than the competition is a worse console generation overall.
If you were happy to play exclusives at the expensive of all the other games, I think that's weird.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Yes, I see that you and many others are comparing only exclusives. I'm not, I think a console generation that plays 3rd party games worse than the competition is a worse console generation overall.
If you were happy to play exclusives at the expensive of all the other games, I think that's weird.

imo ppl who buy Playstation are primary interested on exclusives, nowaday most gamers have one or two consoles, or even a PC, so, we can play multplat wherever we want , Sony brand is their exclusives and how good they are and that why PS3 had a better gen than PS5 atm.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

imo ppl who buy Playstation are primary interested on exclusives, nowaday most gamers have one or two consoles, or even a PC, so Sony brand is their exclusives and how good they are and that why PS3 had a better gen than PS5 atm.

False

 

[Radical_3d]

Yes, I see that you and many others are comparing only exclusives. I'm not, I think a console generation that plays 3rd party games worse than the competition is a worse console generation overall.
If you were happy to play exclusives at the expensive of all the other games, I think that's weird.

If you can’t enjoy great games because other machines play them 5 fps better:
a) console gaming is not for you and
b) it’s a you problem; PS3 still played all those fantastic games of that golden era.
So is not as they don’t count because they run worse.

 

[Lokaum D+]

False

IMO i said, i have a PS5 and a PC, i didnt bought the PS5 to play multplat, i bought it to play their exclusives and thats why nowadays my PS5 is my expensive dust collector, everything else i play on my PC

 

[Magic Carpet]

If you can’t enjoy great games because other machines play them 5 fps better:
a) console gaming is not for you and
b) it’s a you problem; PS3 still played all those fantastic games of that golden era.
So is not as they don’t count because they run worse.

a: Yep that's why I currently play on PC, including the available PS5 'exclusives'.
b: Yes it's my problem. One I solved by not picking the PS3 that generation. (PS3 was the worst paystation generation)

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

IMO i said, i have a PS5 and a PC, i didnt bought the PS5 to play multplat, i bought it to play their exclusives and thats why nowadays my PS5 is my expensive dust collector, everything else i play on my PC

That’s your situation but most consumers only play on one device, so if they are playing on ps5 many people only play on ps5 and their multiplats are there as well

 

[MagnesD3]

Yes, I see that you and many others are comparing only exclusives. I'm not, I think a console generation that plays 3rd party games worse than the competition is a worse console generation overall.
If you were happy to play exclusives at the expensive of all the other games, I think that's weird.

I own all the consoles for thier exclusives. The others Ill play on whatever.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Not as many first party bangers so far. But I’ve enjoyed at least one or two things from them each year so far. Far better than the PS3. Plus this year’s really gonna be the first year where I think it’s gonna really start moving for the current generation. We still have a good 3+ years left before we could even really make a good declaration of how this console was.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Xbox 360 was winning until the end when the PS3 had caught up to where the line was blurred. But were comparing Sony to itself not others. The Ps3 gave people access to a cheaper Blu Ray, it had free online, it started the Resistance, Uncharted, Infamous, Little Big Planet and SOULS IP. It arguably has the best God of War game, it has quantum dreams best game with Heavy Rain. The Ps5 has Returnal and Astro Bot. The only cons I can think of for PS3 where its dumb beginning price and its slow start but hell even then it started with Resistance Fall of Man and MGS4 . Also never forget the amount of PS1/PS2 classics for that thing.

PS3 wasn't that good when I got it at first, I felt disappointed during the first few years of its run. There were some games that had that classic Playstation quality, but far and few between. Gaming also transitioned more to online play, games designed in the west. Meanwhile Final Fantasy, RE, DMC, Ace Combat and Level 5 games all took a huge dive. They made the PS2 great, and they were mediocre on PS3.

PS3 also had issues with performance, bad ports, load times, slow updates, installations etc. It wasn't really user friendly. Sometimes I wanted to play a few rounds, but when I was greeted by a mandatory 2gb update I peaced out. But, in the end the console had a ton of quality games. Probably better than PS4 and PS5 overall but just with worse IQ overall.

But, its the last era I played a lot and bought a ton of different games. Its also the last time I played a lot online with friends, fun nights playing Battlefield and CoD online with a group. Or Killzone 2 online. What about Resistance, Warhawk and Motorstorm 2. These games were just great to play online. Online being free was such a huge boon. All I bought was the console sometime in 2007, and I put a spare 160gb HDD in it. That was all I ever needed for that entire gen. Never paid for any sub or w/e. And played countless hours online.

I sold my PS3 late 2013. And I always regret this because PS4 completely cut its ties with it. So I bought one back about 3 years ago for a low price. And bought a dozen of games for it for about 5 a piece on average while also having a decent library on my account. Its really awesome to have now. Many games or genres I simply forgot about over the years. We really didn't eat that bad.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

That’s your situation but most consumers only play on one device, so if they are playing on ps5 many people only play on ps5 and this their multiplats are there as well

Not true at all. Penging the study 47-61% of gamers are multiplatform gamers. And across core gamers, another site said about 80% will play on more than one system.

Google Search

 

[Schmendrick]

Still waiting for them to provide a list of great PC exclusives that I should ditch my PS5 and Switch for.

They go on about PC like it’s the late 90s still.

1. PC gets almost everything sooner or later. Especially now that Sony officially started porting.
2. We don't care where you play on because people who can afford a good PC usually have at least finished puberty and don't dabble in that infantile platform warring.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Not true at all. Penging the study 47-61% of gamers are multiplatform gamers. And across core gamers, another site said about 80% will play on more than one system.

Google Search

That lumps in mobile devices, they’re not talking about more redundant pieces of hardware

 

[The Pleasure]

Jump forward to PS4. Plasticky cheap design, had wobble, fans were so shit the whole living room became a hell of noise and heat just when playing a game.

I thought my wife was yelling at me and turning up the heat every time I played my ps4.