Ludger Kresnik
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How dare you, After Burner is badass.
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HATSUNE MIKU Project DIVA Future Tone |OT| A gift to the millions of miku fans
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How dare you, After Burner is badass.
StarCreator
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At higher levels of play it's easier in that it's what the chords in this game were designed around, but it's not any easier than learning any other control scheme.
If it helps, it's the PS button layout "unwound"; imagine a string running in a circle through the four buttons. Cut the string between triangle and circle and unwind it into a straight line, and the arcade button layout is the result. This also turns patterns that called for going in circles to rolls.
Demoskinos
Member
After just playing it I have to agreeeeeeee I usually don't like Meiko songs but Afterburner is fucking dope.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
how did you change the layout? Do you need to open the controller up from the bottom to swap the buttons?
No I didn't physically move anything, just changed what each button does by using the assign function - though you can change config in the game itself so I got a bit ahead of myself!! Honestly, I've been an hour trying to get this right!
StarCreator
Member
The controller itself supports dynamic remapping. It's a bit tricky though. This video might explain it.
If you go in from the bottom you could pop out the domes; they're held in by two plastic clips that will allow you to take them out from the top if you push them inwards gently. The spring will also come out, so make sure you put the spring back in place before you reposition them. The wires connected to the buttons aren't long enough to actually remap the buttons themselves in hardware though, so you'll probably still have to rely on the software remapping.
You actually do have to use the controller's remapping function because otherwise you run into an issue where you can't press hardware left and hardware right at the same time.
It really, really bugs me that all the song titles in that site are images for no reason.
Yup, okay. I never go anywhere near Easy, so wouldn't have seen it there, and when I was going through stuff on Hard, I simply didn't think about looking for it. Well, thanks! That makes me even happier now, so I'm glad I mentioned it.
Btw., these are the songs missing on Normal difficulty:
Far Away
Jaded
Last Night, Good Night
Packaged
Song of Life
Strobe Nights
Voc@loid in Love
White Dove
Yeah, makes finding things a bit harder. But at least everything's sorted alphabetically.
Far Away
Jaded
Last Night, Good Night
Packaged
Song of Life
Strobe Nights
Voc@loid in Love
White Dove
Yeah, makes finding things a bit harder. But at least everything's sorted alphabetically.
I don't understand - going by the optionB layout a couple of pages back you'd just press the bottom 2 buttons?
It's Packaged, so Hard might as well be Normal.
If you're using the DIVA X minicontroller, he's saying you can use the controller's onboard remapping to make UP change to RIGHT so you can hit LEFT and "RIGHT" at the same time.
mrmickfran
Member
That's not in FT? Ehh, I didn't like it anyways.
Three? After Flower Fight and Kagerou, what's the third?
No, well, you wouldn't be able to press both the left and right button on the left side of the controller at the same time. If you changed the ingame settings to match the option B set up, you'd still run into the problem where you can't do holds that involve both triangle and square or hit chords that involve both triangle and square without delaying one of those two buttons slightly. It's a hardware limitation that you get around by remapping the controller.
I use the mini controller for other games sometimes and it's just a minor annoyance there, but it's a much bigger deal in this game.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Cantarella Grace Edition
StarCreator
Member
Saturation is the other song that was present in Arcade but missing in this version. (Flower Fight is the other missing song. Kagerou Daze and Cantarella Grace have never been in Arcade.)
When's Packaged EX Easy?
First I'm hearing of this song - is there any particular reason it was cut, or is it just the regular licensing issues coming up again?
Would EX Easy be removing slide notes?
Demoskinos
Member
My skills are so gutter trash right now. Although I guess I haven't actually played one of these in awhile in earnest. Gotta train like Rocky get back in fighting shape.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I feel ya. 2D Dream Fever just destroyed me on Normal. Just barely managed to scrape by with 51%. Yeesh.
Demoskinos
Member
That's one of the things that keeps throwing a wrench in my runs.
On the bright side... having a practice mode that allows you to practice specific parts of songs is something this franchise needed ages ago.
If this wasn't digital only & I had a backlog to deal with, I would've gladly bought this, but I'll just download the main game, get those easy trophies again, then wait for a sale. I'll give credit that $54 for all 200+ songs is still a rather great deal.
Just gonna feel weird playing on a console compared to playing on Vita, plus the fact I won't get to use my headphones.
Just gonna feel weird playing on a console compared to playing on Vita, plus the fact I won't get to use my headphones.
Actually I learned that just plugging your headphones into the DS4 works fine.
Demoskinos
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You can plug headphones into the DS4 controller and get the audio via blue tooth.
You can plug your headphones into the controller.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah I'm getting like 70% on stuff I used to perfect fairly reliably, like Tengaku and DYE. Gonna need a lot of practice.
Remembrance
Member
Yeah, this game expects a higher level of performance from you just on average. A few mistakes and you'll never even catch up with the threshold for an Excellent.
mrmickfran
Member
Cantarella is a Kaito song right? So nothing of value was lost.
You paid for a key that unlocks everything. The full game is $54.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
to unlock all modules and accessories.
Will this work if I have Bluetooth headphones?
$12.99 is to unlock every single costume/accessory from the get-go. The "free" part is just 2 songs, or the main "hub".
StarCreator
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No, the controller has a simple 3.5mm port. But you should be able to pair your headphones with the PS4 directly.
Oh shit. I just contacted Sony and they refunded me and canceled it thankfully.
Ahh, okay, I'll give that a try later. I probably should've mentioned the "bluetooth" part earlier.
You can't really compare pass rates in the PS3 games to the arcade, as the PS3 games just required you to hit 80% of the notes with cool/fine grades (plus/minus technical zones and chance time). Whereas the targets in PD:FT are based off a percentage of the calculated max score, so 100% is defined as a full combo and all cools (clear rates over 100% happen due to a bonus on holds and the life meter bonus). So even a 80% rate in Future Tone is much more demanding than it was in the PS3 games, especially since combos count for and against you now.
The game does actually have Chance Time, but it only shows up on Easy and Normal.
The game does actually have Chance Time, but it only shows up on Easy and Normal.
You can't pair bluetooth headphones with the PS4 unless they're special Sony ones unfortunately.
Admiral Snackbar
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So Twitch is cutting my audio from streaming the game, my solution was to just have a mic near the speaker so my friends could hear my output but that's obviously not ideal. Does anyone have some kind of workaround or is this really just a blanket "No" from Twitch or Youtube?
I mean, I understand WHY but it's unfortunate.
I mean, I understand WHY but it's unfortunate.
You can stream the gameplay to your computer via remote play then stream that video feed while playing from your PS4 I guess?
Admiral Snackbar
Member
Hmm, that's actually an option. I just ask because
at least seems to have figured it out. Let me keep messing around but thanks for the suggestion!
Good news fellow Gaffers, the new entry on Playstation Blog about this game has shed some light over the patches and DLC situation (bolded for emphasis):
And as an extra bonus, one of the users there asked about the themes and avatar pack that were offered in the japanese version, to which the SEGA representative replied:
All in all, great news for all of us and an amazing job on SEGA's part for keeping parity between regions for this release. On a small note, the PS Blog post is just about the American version of the game, but I am very sure that the situation will be exactly the same in Europe.
For those who want to check the full post, here's the link:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/01/10/hatsune-miku-project-diva-future-tone-out-today-on-ps-store/
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go on PSN and destroy my digital wallet on some Miku goodness for me and my waifu :^)
And as an extra bonus, one of the users there asked about the themes and avatar pack that were offered in the japanese version, to which the SEGA representative replied:
All in all, great news for all of us and an amazing job on SEGA's part for keeping parity between regions for this release. On a small note, the PS Blog post is just about the American version of the game, but I am very sure that the situation will be exactly the same in Europe.
For those who want to check the full post, here's the link:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/01/10/hatsune-miku-project-diva-future-tone-out-today-on-ps-store/
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go on PSN and destroy my digital wallet on some Miku goodness for me and my waifu :^)
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
So about a month-ish until I can play Ageage Again?
Good, good.
Good, good.
I was hoping to play this with my arcade controller but the buttons simply do not return fast enough for any high speed note sections and even if they did their size means they aren't great for spamming. It does the job and it's fun for some songs on Hard but anything beyond that is going to be a problem. I even tried the following 8 button setup to get around the limitations but it's a little overcomplicated and means using the arcade stick for the L/R notes which isn't practical for harder songs:
T T S S
X X O O
I wish they would release a dedicated FT accessory based on the arcade cabinet! How did Hori manage to produce a Diva X accessory but not a FT one?! It would have truly been absolute perfection.
This is by no means a complaint about the overall game by the way, I'm loving it and will love it using a DS4!
T T S S
X X O O
I wish they would release a dedicated FT accessory based on the arcade cabinet! How did Hori manage to produce a Diva X accessory but not a FT one?! It would have truly been absolute perfection.
This is by no means a complaint about the overall game by the way, I'm loving it and will love it using a DS4!
Finally got around to rearranging the buttons to one of my controllers and I keep it programmed this way. Going allow the other one to remain normal in button arrangement.
http://imgur.com/a/VJR3S
http://imgur.com/a/VJR3S