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HBO Original | The Last of Us | Part 1 OT | Endure & Survive
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Roni
Gold Member
The next rendition will have him portrayed as Polynesian, good call!
crazepharmacist
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User reply banned for idpol derail
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Stooky
Member
Really this keeps you up at night? No it’s not racist, it happens all the time. She’s a side character. Does it matter? Does it effect her character in any way?
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That doesn't make him any less white to the sane part of the world. I think he looks pretty close to original Joel. The drawl is perfect.
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VulcanRaven
Member
I think he is perfect casting. He is so good in the role.
I like him too. I wish the story focused on him more.
VulcanRaven
Member
VulcanRaven
Member
Probably and also Left Behind flashbacks.
BearNecessity
Member
Pandering is capitalism. Capitalism bothers you.
hemo memo
Gold Member
I think the entire episode is the Left Behind flashback.
vodka-bull
Member
Woah, I never knew Maria was such a sunaddict, her tan is awesome!
Seriously, why change something like that? Oh I forgot, you‘re woke…
Another thing that bothers me, for the first 5 episodes there was literally no relationship forming between Joel & Ellie, and in ep6 we‘re supposed to believe that they have a deep connection with each other? That scene at the ranch in the game was the peak of their relationship in the game, it‘s kind of weird that they tried to pack some chemistry in one episode while ignoring this fundamental element in all the episodes before. Feels kind of rushed.
And all the other changes, they‘re just too much for me as a fan of the games.
Seriously, why change something like that? Oh I forgot, you‘re woke…
Another thing that bothers me, for the first 5 episodes there was literally no relationship forming between Joel & Ellie, and in ep6 we‘re supposed to believe that they have a deep connection with each other? That scene at the ranch in the game was the peak of their relationship in the game, it‘s kind of weird that they tried to pack some chemistry in one episode while ignoring this fundamental element in all the episodes before. Feels kind of rushed.
And all the other changes, they‘re just too much for me as a fan of the games.
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I don't think it comes from a Place of not being bothered by it, so much as it's just not the hill most of us want to die on. The tone of your messages implies to me you probably weren't earning top fan badges when TLOU2 released, and taking in all of the supplemental drama from THAT release (leaks, DMCA takedowns, Abby, golfing, Levzbehonest, etc) I think the vast majority of "critics," like us realize that Druckman could have been a LOT more on the nose with agendas than making a throwaway white character a throwaway black character. Drop the pretenses, my dude, the one element determining your enjoyment or distaste for this show wasn't how they cast Maria, lmfao
Characters are not the same and it shows, Ellie is more arrogant and less kind, Joel is less gruff and less useful all around, guess it makes sense to make him like that because not much it's going in general, in the game by the time they reach Tommy's place, Joel stomped every one on his path (human or not), compared to the TV series
Majmun
Member
Well, episode 6 starts with "THREE MONTHS LATER"
You think Joel and Ellie ingnored each other during that period of time?
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And who cares that Maria is black? Sarah was also white in the game. Why are people so mad about these things? These are fictional characters and can be played by basically any race.
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Ulysses 31
Member
Is it generally good story telling when important character developments happen off screen?
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
No, I think this is how it will be structured:
Episode 7: Entire DLC arc, possibly with a quick section at the beginning or end showing how Ellie and Joel get to safety
Episode 8: Entire Winter arc. Probably ending with Ellie killing Dave and Joel escorting her to safety.
Episode 9: The entire hospital arc and ending.
Roni
Gold Member
There were a few moments of bonding in the previous episodes and it's been 3 months since Henry died.
vodka-bull
Member
In the game they were already bonded when Henry showed up. But that development was completely missed in the show.
elcapitano
Member
Well with the Super Bowl episode there was no comparable way to announce it to the previous episodes as it was Streaming only on Friday and Released on Sunday.
So the numbers wouldn't make any sense to compare versus the previous episodes.
kyliethicc
Member
will be interesting to see if/when/how they reveal joel isn't gonna die for people who don't know the story. could keep it til episode 8, or open with it like left behind the game does, or close the episode with that reveal
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Roni
Gold Member
They were literally laughing before Henry and Sam held them at gunpoint...
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
They don't have a "deep connection," they just care a lot about each other and 3-4 months is enough time for that to happen.
Episode 4 is really where things started to change between the two and it allowed Joel to open up and actually discuss things with Ellie (How Ellie killed someone for the first time).
At the beginning of Episode 6, we hear this.
Ellie: So I've been thinking. Let's say we find the Fireflies, it all works, they draw my blood and put it through some of their fancy machines and make a cure.
Joel: Okay?
Ellie: Then what? Like, what do we do?
Joel: It's "We"?
Ellie: Okay, Fine. Whatever. You
Ellie wanted to know what they were going to do. This is the first sign that Ellie was worried about being alone because she wanted. And of course, we know how the rest of the episode played out, but it's very believable that the two would have a bond together at this point.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I'm going to guess that they're going to reveal it at the beginning of episode 7.
But something keeps telling me they're going to wait until the end. I don't see them waiting until Episode 8.
kyliethicc
Member
if they use the cliffhanger traditionally then yeah it'll be revealed right away
but saving it til the end could be interesting
remember_spinal
Banned
Decent episode, but next week looks like the real zinger
kyliethicc
Member
that was fantastic. ramsay's best yet
incredible sets too
incredible sets too
Grildon Tundy
Member
Bella Ramsey sells rage really well. She did a good job this episode
RyanEvans21
Member
Another great episode. 2 more episodes to go.
BaneIsPain
Member
I don't like it tbh, oh well, move on.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
This movie had Gustavo's track 'The Choice' for the first time. My favorite of his.
Troy Baker is in episode 8 next week, as seen in the preview.
I thought it was a good episode, but the fight at the end looked really cheesy. Can't put my finger on it, it just looked really out of place compared to the rest of the episode. Like it was something out of a 90's low budget TV show.
Troy Baker is in episode 8 next week, as seen in the preview.
I thought it was a good episode, but the fight at the end looked really cheesy. Can't put my finger on it, it just looked really out of place compared to the rest of the episode. Like it was something out of a 90's low budget TV show.
jimmypython
Member
It is the shaky camera
Iced Arcade
Member
Fuck this is such a great show.
Played dozens of times but mann it hits different now that I got a daughter.
Played dozens of times but mann it hits different now that I got a daughter.
ComputerBlue
Member
Another great episode, I don’t care what anybody says, Bella might not be as good an Ellie as Ashley, but she’s still incredible, and near perfect.
That was also The Cure - Just Like Heaven, during the merry-go-round section. I love that almost every episode has had an 80s song.
That was also The Cure - Just Like Heaven, during the merry-go-round section. I love that almost every episode has had an 80s song.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Another incredible episode.
Bella and Storm’s chemistry was off the fucking charts. Perfect casting.
Bella and Storm’s chemistry was off the fucking charts. Perfect casting.
ShadowNate
Member
okay now this was a great f'n episode.
Nice music in the end too.
Nice music in the end too.
Beastclaw Raider
Banned
Yep, played the first game when I had my kids and anyone saying Joel was selfish ain't got no kids
Another great episode, only 2 left, I don't want this to end.
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Great episode. Actor that played Riley was phenomenal! Kind of surprised they didn't show Ellie killing Riley, as was implied in an earlier episode
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begotten
Member
That episode felt like terrible management of screen-time.
The Left Behind flashback DLC works in the video game because it's a humanizing flashback that hits well AFTER the events of the first game. But seeing this cutaway with less context in television? Was just boring and felt normal since the show is more void of action and tense moments like the game.
At the very least, like the game - they should have jumped between the flashback and present time more and progressed the present time further. First genuinely boring and off-putting episode of the series so far.
What was with the casting, I couldn't take Giant Riley next to Ellie seriously either.
The Left Behind flashback DLC works in the video game because it's a humanizing flashback that hits well AFTER the events of the first game. But seeing this cutaway with less context in television? Was just boring and felt normal since the show is more void of action and tense moments like the game.
At the very least, like the game - they should have jumped between the flashback and present time more and progressed the present time further. First genuinely boring and off-putting episode of the series so far.
What was with the casting, I couldn't take Giant Riley next to Ellie seriously either.
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Hobbygaming
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Really? I thought it was the best part of an already incredible episode. It was so tense, even after me finishing the game over 10 times
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Their story needs to be told before Season 2, so this was the perfect time to tell it.
Instead of Ellie looking for antibiotics throughout the episode, they used the time to make people believe Ellie was going to leave Joel behind.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
very slow episode that works for dlc but not for a story that is literally about to end. The game goes into override from the moment Joel gets impaled and doesn’t let up until the ending. Taking a detour, second one this season, is a bizarre pacing choice.
They should’ve kept this as a short flashback and introduced David in this episode. Give the best villain in the game Two episodes at least. Even Kansas Karen got two episodes.
It seems Joel is going to be out for another full episode or at least out for 95% of it. He just shows up to torture two guys at the end. That’s three episodes out of 9 where the lead character is not the focus or is barely in it.
They should’ve kept this as a short flashback and introduced David in this episode. Give the best villain in the game Two episodes at least. Even Kansas Karen got two episodes.
It seems Joel is going to be out for another full episode or at least out for 95% of it. He just shows up to torture two guys at the end. That’s three episodes out of 9 where the lead character is not the focus or is barely in it.