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Ulysses 31 said:
That's a good change IMO since in the game it's pure luck Abby bumps into Joel on her first day in the neighborhood(during a blizzard and a horde).
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First day? She sworn years before, and since it's implying they got a lead pointing for Jackson, they stumbled in the way

The bigger problem is that the initial start is slow and then rushes like hell
 
deriks said:
First day? She sworn years before, and since it's implying they got a lead pointing for Jackson, they stumbled in the way

The bigger problem is that the initial start is slow and then rushes like hell
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Yes, in the game it's her first day in the area.

I'm not against a huge coincidence jump starting a story but the events in the game stretch the verisimilitude of that world.
 
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Its clear that neil cuckman hate Ellie so much after LOU1 that he make her more and more unlikeable , more and more ugly . From part 2 to the TV show .

I wonder what ellen page did to him .
 
Oberstein said:
I can't get past Ellie's casting.
She can't act
"I'm immmunnnneeee"
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and still looks like a kid.
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Leave the lass alone she clearly put the work in for this role.


 
deriks said:
Ellie and Dina say something like "we will wait for the men?"

Because the reason is being man, not cautious or more responsible because of the age and the mindset
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The funny part is that Ellie should have been dead. She is lucky that she is immune, otherwise she would have been killed.

So yeah, maybe wait for men next time.

Yoboman said:
Great episode

Loved the improved action so far

But they absolutely pussied out giving Abby's back story upfront. All for cowards who can't handle it
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Exactly. They think the viewers are idiots who couldnt follow the story if it were like the game in terms of structure.
 
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Bumblebeetuna said:
Attractive? What a weird place for you to go lol. I don't care how attractive she is, she is a horrible actor with zero emotional or facial range.

She was a little girl in the first season. Audience would have been fine with an older actress.
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Yeah, I'm gonna agree with this.

In the final dance scene, Isabela Merced is capital A acting with her facial emotions and tone, Bella is just standing there with the range and expressions of a wooden plank.

The only part of the episode where Bella seemed genuine was the part where she's screaming "I'm infecteeeedddd" like a kid. Her 'serious-face' is pretty lacking.
 
Dina was amazing and beautiful, liking her more than the game.

Ellie looking like a kid and Abby not being swole as fuck is just dumb as fuck

shoutouts to goat joel pedro pascal as always
 
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man you guys not wailing on the episode for being bad is kinda bumming me out. If I watch it and it's good I'm gonna be pissed. I was led to belive it would be terrible. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Nocty said:
man you guys not wailing on the episode for being bad is kinda bumming me out. If I watch it and it's good I'm gonna be pissed. I was led to belive it would be terrible. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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This franchise produces nothing but premium quality in all mediums (GOTY's and Emmy awards), if you want terrible go watch the new Devil May Cry trash on netflix :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_poop:
 
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Hugare said:
Exactly. They think the viewers are idiots who couldnt follow the story if it were like the game in terms of structure.
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It's funny when you say that, but you don't grasp that Ellie is reckless because she is immune. She goads Dina into being reckless with her. Just as Riley goaded Ellie into being reckless.

I think it's a choice to change the structure of telling Abby's story, but I don't think it's a bad one, especially with the feedback from gamers who found Abby hard to relate to in the game, despite her very clear motives.
 
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Great first episode.
The Ellie and Dina scene was great. I was worried how it would compare to the game but they nailed it.

I like how they make the opening longer and added new scenes like in the first season. The new scenes of Joel, Sarah and Tommy in season 1 were good.
 
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Not really interested in watching this but I'm curious?
Did they actually kill Joel in the first chapter or are they going to dragg it out?
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
After episode 2, everything will be going downhill and progressively more illogical and hilarious
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After episode 2, everything will get better and better. cant wait for his death scene. hope its even more brutal than the game. i hope abby spits on him again too

i want the audience to be fucking furious.

give me another Glenn in the WALKING DEAD moment. (still the most shocking main-ish character death in tv history imo)
 
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Represent. said:
After episode 2, everything will get better and better. cant wait for his death scene. hope its even more brutal than the game. i hope abby spits on him again too

i want the audience to be fucking furious.

give me another Glenn in the WALKING DEAD moment. (still the most shocking main-ish character death in tv history imo)
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🤷🏼‍♂️If it were up to me, instead of a golf club to the head, a nail-filled bat up his ass would be more ad-hoc

but his dead and the discourse around it will be the most boring part.

Ellie's retarded actions and the physically build of both actresses will be involuntary comedy going forward, alongside a story that will make less and less sense over time

this will be HBO's The Rings of Power.
 
viveks86 said:
Shocking news. The viewers are split!

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Metacritic isn't really the place to go for tv show reviews. You're looking at 40 reviews here.

IMDB has the episode at an 8.2 which is probably slightly higher than I'd give it and that's based on 4K reviews. What holds true though is you have a lot of review bombing and the reasons for that are pretty obvious.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
Metacritic isn't really the place to go for tv show reviews. You're looking at 40 reviews here.

IMDB has the episode at an 8.2 which is probably slightly higher than I'd give it and that's based on 4K reviews. What holds true though is you have a lot of review bombing and the reasons for that are pretty obvious.
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Yeah i know. Out of curiosity, I'm just looking out for the review bombing and the extent to which it will happen this time around. If IMDB is getting more counts, then yeah, that's probably where I should be looking.
 
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viveks86 said:
Yeah i know. Out of curiosity, I'm just looking out for the review bombing and the extent to which it will happen this time around. If IMDB is getting more counts, then yeah, that's probably where I should be looking.
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For tv, I generally look at a combination of imdb and rotten tomatoes, but you also have to understand the review curve and outliers.

How many reviews does it have, does it have a baked in fanbase, is it getting review bombed e.t.c. e.t.c.

Movies for example have a completely different grading scale than tv shows for example. Generally above a 7 is good in movies, but for tv, you want to be above an 8.

One of my favorite movies is Spotlight. I walked out of the theater saying it was going to win best picture that year. It only has an 8.1 on imdb. At first I thought maybe it was review bombed by people trying to protect the Catholic church, but there's no evidence of review bombing. I think it just wasn't made for everyone. One thing I like is to see how different countries rate movies and shows too, which is another nice data point. Spotlight is an 8.3 in the US yet it is an 8.0 in Germany. You'd have to look into whether Germans typically rate lower on average to get a sense of why that might be.

On Rotten Tomatoes 93% of users rated it a 3.5 or higher (which is again 7/10). It has an average of 4.3/5 which is an 8.6, which is quite high.

And beyond that I tend to agree more with critic scores than user scores (but not always).

Review bombing though is ruining user reviews as a practice and it used to be a great counter balance to critic scores that can really miss sometimes.
 
Mibu no ookami said:
It's funny when you say that, but you don't grasp that Ellie is reckless because she is immune. She goads Dina into being reckless with her. Just as Riley goaded Ellie into being reckless.

I think it's a choice to change the structure of telling Abby's story, but I don't think it's a bad one, especially with the feedback from gamers who found Abby hard to relate to in the game, despite her very clear motives.
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Disliking Abby to start with is integral to TLOU2s story working. Without it, it's lackluster
 
Fbh said:
Not really interested in watching this but I'm curious?
Did they actually kill Joel in the first chapter or are they going to dragg it out?
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Next episode the clubbing will happen "slowly". I also didn't enjoy them leaving out the classic "bigot sandwich" line.
 
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