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Officerrob
Banned
European qualifiers is still hands down the best
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
So close to my 3rd gold hero.
dat name
RumblingRosco
Member
Rewards were 415 gold and two packs; the packs were just 8 commons and 2 rares. The deck was awesome though, so much card draw from all the Clerics as they were easily the MVPs. Illidan actually helped out in a couple games too surprisingly.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Poor Tom absolutely getting destroyed.
Seriously fuck hunter, nerf undertaker already.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Technosteve
Banned
why is lock still so powerful?
partyphone
Banned
best hero power
Technosteve
Banned
is this firebat hero?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Firebat's rogue is just destroying also Ben Brode makes watching even better.
Yup, Would not be surprised to see it changed within a year and a half.
3 mana or something crazier? like "2 mana, 2 damage, draw an extra card at the beginning of your next turn"
It's the only reason. So many of the warlock class cards are so bad, and both of the competitive warlock decks could pretty much work in any other class if those other classes had the same hero power.
Letterbomb
Banned
Finally bought and beat Nax and got all the cards. It's crazy the advantage these cheap pieces of shit give you in games. Jumped leagues in ranking.
Letterbomb
Banned
I mean Belcher, Undertaker, Kel'Thuzad, Baron Riven, Loatheb, etc.
Nearly all of them lmao.
partyphone
Banned
having two of the best 1 drops in the game helps with zoo. and soulfire is pretty great.
but yeah, warlock only gets more powerful as they release more cards. and basically anything you can do that would be good against zoo would just be better in zoo.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think warlock hero power is overrated. Their strength as an aggro deck can be attributed to having great 1 drops. Flame imp, voidwalker, undertaker... all great turn 1 drops.
Handlock does benefit from having hero power and it makes it much more consistent than decks that run giants, but I think its real strength comes from the versatility of their spells like shadowflame, soulfire, hellfire, and siphon soul. A lot of these cards allow the deck to be played aggressively and still have one of the best late game cards which is jaraxxus.
People say warlock class cards are weak, sometimes just the minions because the spells are clearly crazy strong. But I'd argue that they also have strong minions and the hero power is just overrated.
Handlock does benefit from having hero power and it makes it much more consistent than decks that run giants, but I think its real strength comes from the versatility of their spells like shadowflame, soulfire, hellfire, and siphon soul. A lot of these cards allow the deck to be played aggressively and still have one of the best late game cards which is jaraxxus.
People say warlock class cards are weak, sometimes just the minions because the spells are clearly crazy strong. But I'd argue that they also have strong minions and the hero power is just overrated.
partyphone
Banned
yeah doomguard is good too, obviously. but that's still just 4 cards. which is typically all zoo really runs. sometimes there's mortal coil or hellfire depending on the meta.
and it's the hero power that makes it work. you empty your hand by turn 5, play doomguard with no downside and then draw 2 cards per turn for the rest of the game.
and it's the hero power that makes it work. you empty your hand by turn 5, play doomguard with no downside and then draw 2 cards per turn for the rest of the game.
yeh you know you're screwed if they play doomguard for free
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I started watching cause ppl said ben was doing commentary. Hours later I am still watching.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Ben better be commentating at Blizzcon. Good game by FrozenIce.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
He is, just not every match. They kinda switch out.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Good to know he isn't just doing the groupstage.
What a turn around i feel kinda bad for FrozenIce.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Erm, well I dunno if he is commentating past group.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Guess we will see. I just hope they don't bring back TotalBiscuit.
partyphone
Banned
it's gonna be gnimsh, frodan, realz, amaz and thatsadmirable.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
He is wrong so many time and doesn't even know basic math.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I made a new rogue deck today. I am pretty happy with how it is performing so far on ladder. I only lost to a handlock but I feel like that was more of an oddity, although I don't think I am favored by much, if at all either way.
This deck is tooled to overcome an aggro heavy meta. Being a midrange deck, it is very flexible in that you can grab board using the low curve, with backstab, si7 agent, defias ringleader, echoing ooze or you can play more control like with eviscerate, shiv, fan of knive, backstab, and blade flurry. So vs aggro you have pretty good options, and defender of argus to seal off a win late game (like I just did vs a warlock when I used DOA on ragnaros and an azure drake on turn 9).
Vs control decks you play like an aggro or tempo deck by getting board and making it difficult for them to take back. Defias ringleader, argent squire, and echoing ooze, as well as harvest golem, all synergize really well with cult master. Then you use cold bloods, eviscerate, shiv, deadly poison, and blade flurry + sometimes ragnaros, to deal a lot of damage. Dropping loatheb on a decent board, even early on, is incredibly strong due to cold blood.
An alternate build could include a charge minion to make cold blood usable off an empty board.
You might be tempted to think the deck is too centric around cult master, but azure drake x2, shiv x2 and fan of knives take the load off of that. Plus the deck is just filled with many high value cards. Being capable of putting 4 attack power off 2 mana from defias ringleader is pretty good. But the card is pretty bad midgame, and best used to repopulate a board after a sweeper. And ragnaros does his job. It is the only card above 5 cost, so don't expect to win if you're not ahead in a control match, unless you've somehow baited out a lot of removal.
Still pretty early to tell how robust this deck is, but I feel like it is robust because it doesn't have a hard time getting tempo due to a decent low curve, the ability to snowball and even burst an opponent down due to 2x cold blood. Echoing ooze + doa synergy allows it to make big taunt walls to swing against aggro. Cult master allows for great card draw. Just don't expect to win any fatigue wars.
I am with you on that 1000%.
This deck is tooled to overcome an aggro heavy meta. Being a midrange deck, it is very flexible in that you can grab board using the low curve, with backstab, si7 agent, defias ringleader, echoing ooze or you can play more control like with eviscerate, shiv, fan of knive, backstab, and blade flurry. So vs aggro you have pretty good options, and defender of argus to seal off a win late game (like I just did vs a warlock when I used DOA on ragnaros and an azure drake on turn 9).
Vs control decks you play like an aggro or tempo deck by getting board and making it difficult for them to take back. Defias ringleader, argent squire, and echoing ooze, as well as harvest golem, all synergize really well with cult master. Then you use cold bloods, eviscerate, shiv, deadly poison, and blade flurry + sometimes ragnaros, to deal a lot of damage. Dropping loatheb on a decent board, even early on, is incredibly strong due to cold blood.
An alternate build could include a charge minion to make cold blood usable off an empty board.
You might be tempted to think the deck is too centric around cult master, but azure drake x2, shiv x2 and fan of knives take the load off of that. Plus the deck is just filled with many high value cards. Being capable of putting 4 attack power off 2 mana from defias ringleader is pretty good. But the card is pretty bad midgame, and best used to repopulate a board after a sweeper. And ragnaros does his job. It is the only card above 5 cost, so don't expect to win if you're not ahead in a control match, unless you've somehow baited out a lot of removal.
Still pretty early to tell how robust this deck is, but I feel like it is robust because it doesn't have a hard time getting tempo due to a decent low curve, the ability to snowball and even burst an opponent down due to 2x cold blood. Echoing ooze + doa synergy allows it to make big taunt walls to swing against aggro. Cult master allows for great card draw. Just don't expect to win any fatigue wars.
I am with you on that 1000%.
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