We'll have to wait and see how mechs in druids play out. They already have a good 2 cost minion and bear cat could be effective with proper synergy. Plus there are other druid cards we have yet to uncover.
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We'll have to wait and see how mechs in druids play out. They already have a good 2 cost minion and bear cat could be effective with proper synergy. Plus there are other druid cards we have yet to uncover.
Mobius and pet octopus
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We even have to consider mech synergy itself from neutral cards. Mechwarper drops this cost to 5, and a 7/6 for 5 is really good. You can potentially get this guy out on turn 3 with a mechwarper on board plus innervate. Sure, you spend a lot of cards getting them out, but you do recover some card value as it trades and takes damage.
Sure, I didn't mean to infer that its a bad card. It's fine, but I think it isn't quite good enough just to play as a good card. Like I don't think you would just slot this into a current ramp druid deck. It needs mech synergy to make sense. But its definitely playable in a mech deck.
Unlike Toshley which is just a great card without any other required synnergy.
Unlike Toshley which is just a great card without any other required synnergy.
Mech-Bear-Cat's susceptibility to Big Game Hunter is bothersome, but otherwise, it's pretty decent. Its main issue I think is irrelevance to the Druid class. None of the spare parts have much synergy with Druid's strategies, and as far as bodies go, there are much better 6 drops available. Hell, if Spare Parts is your goal, Toshley is the better option, considering at least a single part is guaranteed. Slightly better stat distribution, too. I don't see Mech-Bear-Cat drawing more than two parts on average as it is, so I guess I'm missing why you'd run it over Toshley.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think Toshley is a little bit underwhelming. Sure, you get like half a card off it added to your deck between both battlecry and deathrattle... Maybe even a full card of value if you get lucky. The stats are alright. But I'm not sure if it can do enough to justify a slot. It is a bit better than boulderfist ogre, but not by a lot imo.
Well Toshley isn't a mech.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think there is another new card that adds a spare part via battlecry as well.
Novice Engineer, Gnomish Inventor, etc.
A familiar mechanic. This one is closer to Ysera/Webspinner/Thoughtsteal/ETC, though, since it draws uncollectable cards.
And yeah, Mech-Bear-Cat is a mech and Toshley isn't. Good point. Think Druid will have much use for mechs?
TetraxShards
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Playing Hunter for a daily, today I lived the turn one Webspinner -> King Krush dream for exact lethal on turn 9. Against a Golden Paladin too, which I've never seen before.
I think toshley is better than cairne for example. If we consider cairne a 4/10, 5/7 is a much better stat distribution. Cairne is sileceable, but requires two hits to kill otherwise. So its a loss of 2 stats. On the other hand:
you get 2 spare parts (toshley will almost never be silenced) and 5 attack vs 4 is a big deal. 5 damage is kind of a sweet spot (at least right now) as everything good as 5 health.
This is why warlocks don't play shadow bolt. 4 damage sucks.
He can kill the front part of a highmane for example and live. He can kill loatheb and live, kill the front half of belchers, and if played on 7 you have decent odds of a strong 'enter play' effect like gaining taunt, or freezing the enemy's most powerful minion.
in general gaining a spare part on battlecry gives you flexibility in terms of playing the creature on curve.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I actually think the only good thing about cairne is that he draws out silence and sometimes hex/poly. When he does that, he has filled his role imo. After naxx cairne was pretty much reduced to a subpar card imho, due to cards like sludge belcher and the fact that sylvanas played second will steal baine. Cairne was a great minion to drop on uncontested or against a weaker board, but even sylvanas now changes that.
5/7 is better than cairne, but I'm not sure if he would be ran over cards that have more board impact, immediate or otherwise. Also just adding a legendary to your deck makes it a bit less consistent. I'm not certain of the gains are good enough. It is basically a boulderfist ogre with some measure of extra card value. I guess worth it if you can make use of the parts well. They just seem very low impact though.
RumblingRosco
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I see some great videos of Priests ruining a Druid's day. That, or the rare chance a Mill Rogue faces one of these guys.
Just went on tilt bad at rank 2, instead of stopping playing after I lost 2 I carried on getting my handlock rekt by hunters and now I'm rank 4 again. New dawn, new day.
Not impressed by those cards really, mech bear cat could be interesting in miracle druid if it wasn't so expensive.
Not impressed by those cards really, mech bear cat could be interesting in miracle druid if it wasn't so expensive.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Does bouncing blade kill work on a sole target and kill it?
Yep. It does damage until a target dies. It is a really nice warrior card.
yup, and because its random instead of targeted it could, for example, kill a stealthed auctioneer.
You can't do that it's a druid card.
TetraxShards
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Finally beat the Paladin class challenge. =)
Then read it was nerfed/the player's deck was buffed. =(
Still, nice to finally have all the Naxx cards.
Then read it was nerfed/the player's deck was buffed. =(
Still, nice to finally have all the Naxx cards.
Whoops, not even thinking haha. Thought it was neutral. Thanks for the clarification,
53 cards have been announced already, it doesn't even feel like that many
http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards?display=3&filter-set=101&filter-unreleased=1
http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards?display=3&filter-set=101&filter-unreleased=1
Discounting spare parts, it's still close to 80 to go isn't it?
Officerrob
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I wonder if they are counting spare parts are being part of the "over 120"
I believe they said that tokens and non-collectible cards were not included in that number.
Professor Lich
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It's probably because a lot went out at BlizzCon. We'll know six from voting by tomorrow. Then it's been an average of 2 cards a week day since post BlizzCon. So roughly 30 cards at BlizzCon and 20 from then.
Not to forget new cards have been quickly dropped from discussion for the time being.
Let's speculate what cards will be retroactively designated as mechs.
Here are the possibilities I can think of
Alarm-O-Bot
Harvest Golem
Mr Bitey
Demolisher
Geblin Tokens
Arcane Golem (Are Golems Mechs?)
War Golem (Are Golems Mechs?)
Reckless Rocketeer (This one is a strech)
Here are the possibilities I can think of
Alarm-O-Bot
Harvest Golem
Mr Bitey
Demolisher
Geblin Tokens
Arcane Golem (Are Golems Mechs?)
War Golem (Are Golems Mechs?)
Reckless Rocketeer (This one is a strech)
I've always wondered about warlock decks that run that card...why??
Mobius and pet octopus
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I just hit face with tirion, then wild pyro'd equality to finish with ashbringer. Not as good as sacrificial pact I guess 
I guess for the warlock mirror? If you're a handlock facing zoo or the handlock mirror it's honestly not that bad a card. And the only risk you take is against priest.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I have a theory, people REALLLY HATE losing to control paladin. Not only are the matches quite long, but the perception that it is a bad class that can't hold its own is like pouring salt in their wounds. I swear, I get the saltiest players who rope out while playing as paladin. This control warrior probably thought I made a mistake when I ran into his acolyte 3 times. I was literally in an unlosable position and just wanted to speed things up.
So finally, on like turn 12, he has like 1 cards left undrawn. Already lost rag. Already used brawl. He finally uses alexstrasza, to which I respond with guardian of kings, holy light, humility... with another aldor in hand for gromm, an equality for ysera... he ropes out the rest of the game.
So finally, on like turn 12, he has like 1 cards left undrawn. Already lost rag. Already used brawl. He finally uses alexstrasza, to which I respond with guardian of kings, holy light, humility... with another aldor in hand for gromm, an equality for ysera... he ropes out the rest of the game.
shadowstar
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God damn watcher druid is so fun. No one expects it.
Got Malygos a few days ago from a pack so finally gave miracle rogue a shot.
Man is it fun. I've done mostly unranked past couple days to really get a feel for it, but as long as I stay alive and can make it to the end with Maly + sinister strike + prep + blade furry it's usually GG.
Main thing that sucks obviously is when you can't draw Maly or that prep/sinister strike, or whatever but I had one game against a Hunter who got me down to like 6 health, he had about 23-24 hp. Turn 10 I drop Maly + sinister strike + prep + blade furry (5 damage buffed assassins blade) + prep + sinister strike, GG.
Have no idea how I'll fare in ranked play, and it's such a boom or bust deck but it's pretty great to lethal people with 18+ HP who definitely think they're winning the match before Maly drops.
Man is it fun. I've done mostly unranked past couple days to really get a feel for it, but as long as I stay alive and can make it to the end with Maly + sinister strike + prep + blade furry it's usually GG.
Main thing that sucks obviously is when you can't draw Maly or that prep/sinister strike, or whatever but I had one game against a Hunter who got me down to like 6 health, he had about 23-24 hp. Turn 10 I drop Maly + sinister strike + prep + blade furry (5 damage buffed assassins blade) + prep + sinister strike, GG.
Have no idea how I'll fare in ranked play, and it's such a boom or bust deck but it's pretty great to lethal people with 18+ HP who definitely think they're winning the match before Maly drops.
Mobius and pet octopus
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To be fair, the matches aren't THAT much longer in terms of turns at least.
Lol I lied. Last priest match went to turn 25. But again, to be fair, that priest lost 15 turns before it actually ended. I don't blame him/her for trying though, because he/she was running double mind control.
My win vs the warrior was only 19 turns though.
And the stupid match against the first priest of the day was 25 turns as well lol... I lost in fatigue cause I fucked up big time using humility on cairne forgetting that he was taking 2 damage from consecrate putting him into range of actually being killed off. I lost by 1 turn because of that. And like 5 of that were in fatigue so they lasted seconds.
At least the win vs zoo only lasted til turn 10, cause he can easily recognize when he has lost (I had sunwalker + kelthuzad up with him top decking, and then I played a guardian of kings.
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What can I say though, paladin is a helluva lot of fun. People just need to become psychic and figure out when they've lost 15 turns before they actually lose. I don't run bombs like rag. I don't even run avenging wrath atm. I have no reliable way to close out a match except by an impenetrable taunt wall forcing my opponent to concede, or more likely fatiguing them out.
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NICE, this midrange mage figured out he lost on turn 10. Some people do have brains.
ShinNL
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How does your list look like? I have a healadin and a giantadin (giandin?), both of them doesn't seal games that fast. Do you run low mana minions?
Mobius and pet octopus
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I am currently running 2 haunted creepers, and 2 wild pyros, 2 harvest golems, 2 aldors, those are my 2-3 drops. No 1 drops atm.
Four drops are tazdingo, 1 spellbreaker.
So not many small minions.
I can paste the list in a bit though if you want.
And then you ragquit after losing to 9/10 hunters/zoolocks.
ShinNL
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Ah no that's fine, thanks for the info. I was curious because my minion curve doesn't start that early and I rely quite heavily on clears, since I really lack board presence for like the first 4 turns.
Maybe I should be less greedy myself because I know my deck can make a Warlock in Jaraxxus mode go into fatigue with 10 cards left in his deck, but really, how many times does that happen? But it's just so awesome to slam big creatures one after another.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Haven't lost to one yet. Will I lose against them sometimes? Sure. But I'm not seeing many at all.
I'm pretty good at those match ups tbh. It is all about baiting out silence and winning with tirion or another taunt. I know what I need and people aren't familiar with what they need so they often make mistakes.
At least those matches will almost always be very short.
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awesome!
70% winrate at rank 5 but I still am only gaining like 1.5 stars per an hour lol (I do often take 5-10 minute breaks between matches though, it is the only way).
BlackBuzzard
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So you guys saving money to straight up buy expansion packs or doing arena? Will we be able to choose what pack we get from arena?
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